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Microsoft Thinks Activision Doesn't Support PC Gaming

Kotick went on record recently, talking about Activision being platform agnostic, and friendly to all forms of gaming, including, yes, PC gaming. Apprently, he's rubbed Microsoft off the wrong way.

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Quagmire5820d ago (Edited 5820d ago )

Oh the irony that is Alan Wake.

Microsoft completely shafted PC Gamers out of Alan Wake, and now they are pointing their grubby little finger towards another no-good rotten company.

So I'm sorry, but who doesnt support PC gaming, again? /

animboo5820d ago

Microsoft hasn't released a game for a while now..

captain-obvious5820d ago

the irony in the title is just way too much

Cold 20005820d ago

Isnt Fable 3 coming to PC too ?

DrierofLeaves5820d ago

Yes, Alan Wake is a prime example of how Microsoft shafts PC Gamers. Although Fable III seems to be their effort to make ammends.

120FPS5820d ago

So when Heavy rain was pulled from the PC list, what is the terminology for that? I bet you dont use the word shafted??!!

DrierofLeaves5820d ago

Did Sony ever profess to supporting PC gaming in the first place? Have they ever had any pretensions about that?

120FPS5820d ago

So if Sony has never professed to support PC gaming then to me that sounds like they are "shafting" PC gamers even more by offering little to no support at all

Optical_Matrix5820d ago

Since when was Sony ever a PC Software company? Please explain lol Microsofts supposed involvement with PC software is obvious like the grass is green. Them not supporting PC gaming is completely different to Sony not supporting it.

raztad5820d ago (Edited 5820d ago )

Wow. 120FP is expecting Sony ports their exclusives to the PC. LOL. BTw, why not to include Nintendo in the mix?

In a more serious note: Sony Online Entertainment does more for the PC than Microsoft.

Cueil5820d ago

Seems like some people forget that Sony has strong ties on PC... SOE is 90 percent PC developer

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XactGamer5820d ago

That's true MS did shaft PC gamers with Alan Wake but on the flip side MS has done more for PC gaming than anyone else.

Charmers5820d ago

Erm they have ? like what ? and please don't even dare mention GFWL the service that both gamers and developers are avoiding like the plague. In fact it is fairer to say that Microsoft has done more to damage PC gaming than any other company in the gaming industry.

I would personally say Valve and Blizzard have done more for PC gaming than Microsoft ever have.

Cueil5820d ago

Microsoft finally cut the PC version because the 45 man team couldn't get things done working on two platforms... More then either of the other two platform owners Microsoft supports PC gaming... thus the phrase "I can get that on the PC why buy a 360" garbage you hear on here so much

mephixto5820d ago (Edited 5820d ago )

Microsoft don't support PC gaming, their last exclusive game was Gears of War 1, the phrase "I can get that on the PC why buy a 360" is because of third party games like Mass Effect

KongRudi5820d ago

More then either of the other two platform owners Microsoft supports PC gaming...
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That's not correct at all, why give credit to someone who don't deserve credit?
There are _no_ PC game-studios amongst the MS-studios, and they don't publish many third-party games either..

Since 2007 there has been no PC-release at all from Microsoft of any retail-title..

The only upcoming titles wich they have announced to be published on PC, is Fable 3, Train Simulator 2, and Marvel Universe Online (no releasedates, and the two last games I think is or will be cancelled)..

Sony on the other hand has a big PC studio, since 2007 the following retail-titles have been published.
New IP's like Pirates of the Burning Sea, Free Realms.
Old IP's like Everquest also had two expansions since 2008 - Seeds of Destruction, and Underfoot.
Everquest 2, also had 2 expensions, The Shadow Odyssey, and Sentinel's Fate.
They've bought publishing rights too a few older titles aswell, wich is available on station-exchange.

Upcoming Sony titles for the PC include; Star Wars: Clone Wars adventures, The Agency, and DC Universe. John Smedley also spoke something about that we would see Planetside 2 beeing announced this year.

So Sony makes much more PC-games than MS.
That's a fact. And they don't make the PC-gamers wait 6 months+ either, like were the case with MS last releases, like Gears and Viva Pinata, Halo 2.

As for MS complaints of Activision, that's just insane. Activision is probably the PC-publisher with most releases the last years.

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Pennywise5820d ago

Funny considering Activision is paired with the biggest PC dev in the industry. Blizzard says hi.

mobijoker5820d ago

There was a time when Microsoft loved pc.But like all love stories,tragedy is the ultimate destination of all romances.So,then enters a certain 'X'thing which was skinny and not so attractive.But she was clever and did a 360 turnaround by surgeries here and there.Our hero like many others got turned on by this unearthly silicon beauty and forgot his love.As a result,pc got lonely but she knows natural thing wins the war and she will get her love back one day.....

NEWSWATCHERS5820d ago

Microsoft Supports the gaming community! Quagmire, you are an idiot.

We wouldn't be playing PC games if they didn't create the Windows Operating System, and about Alan Wake, Microsoft didn't cancel it, Remedy did, cause they have a very small team so they needed to focus on one platform, not two. If it was Microsoft who canceled it, it was because of the above.

Quagmire5819d ago

"Some games are more suited for the intimacy of the PC, and others are best played from the couch in front of a larger TV screen"

MS reasoning for cancellation was because a couch was was better.

hassi945819d ago

They may have given a reason of a couch being better but no company would ever do it just because of that, there are actual reasons...

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ConanOBrien5820d ago

PC Gaming = Microsoft

/s /m /e

Letros5820d ago

Coming from the company that shut down Ensemble Studios...

HolyOrangeCows5820d ago

The persons responsible for assigning them to a console RTS and the persons responsible for their closure, should be burned at the stake.

DrierofLeaves5820d ago

This is so ironic... seriously, I mean, I hated Microsoft and PC gaming the day they killed off Ensemble.

lzim5820d ago (Edited 5820d ago )

Digital Anvil, Aces, FASA, etc etc

and all the little studios that made games for both Xbox consoles that didn't get enough money back to stay in business, or never even got their games published.

edit: for some reason I can't help but get the mental picture of someone telling Microsoft that 'the balls go in the mouth' Microsoft teabagging Activision, they'll just teabag back. Since Activision makes the games that don't need Live, it is profoundly silly for MS to not capitulate. Just accept the teabagging like Sony and work with Activision AND Valve.

Cueil5820d ago

Microsoft's console is probably around a third of their game sales... they can say whatever they want because they wont leave their cash cow

kevnb5820d ago

75% of their income comes from pc.

BYE5820d ago

Why the bad relationship all of the sudden?

First: http://n4g.com/news/558195/...

And now this...

TotalPS3Fanboy5820d ago

Just like EA?

I guess we'll never know... until a few months later.

outrageous5820d ago

What you see here is a good old fashion shakedown by Activision of M$. M$ is big, big enough to swallow Activision whole if they really wanted to.

Activision want to go on XBL and charge people a monthly fee to play MW2...it's not gonna happen. M$ OWNS XBL and nobody is gonna run any monthly fees but M$. Kotick has taken his beef to the masses which, I'm guessing has made Ballmer rather upset. This is a dangerous game Kotick is playing right now. A very greasy, low ball approach to negotiations, worthy of a Soprano episode. They just signed a 3 year exclusive DLC content deal with Activision. There will be repercussions for this. It might be behind the scene's or out in plain view as we are witnessing now.

TotalPS3Fanboy5820d ago

Looks like Activision is testing to see how far they can push Microsoft for money.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio43d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing43d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9243d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit43d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing43d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9243d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay45d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn245d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn245d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown45d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay45d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay45d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac44d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger45d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300045d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde45d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde45d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7546d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_44d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.