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3D: Sony vs. Microsoft

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When you consider this for a moment, 360 can only support 3D on part of their user base, while PS3 can support 3D effects on every PS3, you can imagine why Sony is touting this so loudly, and why Microsoft is downplaying it and dragging their feet.

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brazilianbumpincher5827d ago (Edited 5827d ago )

feel sorry and happy for owners of the original 360..

happy because...i cant believe your 2005 unit is still working

sorry because you cant experience 3D or come to think of it HD i believe without HDMI?

microsoft even though have sold 40mil 360s have really messed up this gen hardware wise from RROD to stating HDMI is not needed then adding it and now shafting earlier adopters by now including wi-fi,it just all seems abit of a mess...sorry ms fans im honest dont boo me :)

piroh5827d ago

ebay will be full of old xboxes

Wrathman5827d ago

ps3 fanboy website knockin xbox.THE SHOCK OF IT!

3D gaming is ony good if your sony fanboy and the competition cant do it.

i can IM my friends thru xbox using messenger and play cusom music thru ALL games..does that make the ps3 a piece of garbage? no.but if the ps3 did it and the xbox didnt..then droid logic comes into play.

and the ps3 came with an HDMI port at its launch..but...no hdmi cable included.and at launch they cost £50.does it come with 1 now?

droid logic is taught in special schools

brazilianbumpincher5827d ago (Edited 5827d ago )

playing custom music with every game your right is a very very kool feature and i cant believe after FOUR years you still cant do this on a ps3

but then you chat crap about £50 HDMI cables? wtf....when ps3 was launched HDMI cables in stores like maplin and on ebay were £10,only place selling HDMI cables for £50 was currys and they overcharge on all their products

@meerkat,you are truly blessed to still have your original 360.honestly buy the 360s and save your original it might be worth something..who knows

karl5827d ago

why dont u just buy a PS3 and just shut up?

really dude.. im sick every 360 fanboys that feels vulnerable cuz there arent that many of them anymore..

dude.. if this is a ps3 site... and that bothers u, then go look for some 360fanboy site, but guess what, u cant go anywhere without people talking about how much of a piece of garbage the 360 is...

and u know why? because there is a lot more than just the lack of 3D on your 360 that makes the PS3 the best console

ThanatosDMC5827d ago

Well somebody made a list of those who cant/wont buy a PS3. I forgot who it was. It was a pretty accurate list for those who doesnt have at least two consoles.

darthv725826d ago

It wasnt even 2 years into the 360 cycle when MS added HDMI. I would say the sale of HDMI equiped units have exceeded the total of non equiped units. Why would it matter if an old 360 can't do 3d? It isnt like there isnt an adapter that can convert the A/V port into an HDMI one...oh wait:

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GWAVE5827d ago

Interesting article. I don't think it's as much "Sony vs Microsoft" as it is "Sony moves forward with a technology, Microsoft bashes it, but then later Microsoft comes along with a sub-par imitation".

Because Microsoft hasn't made a peep about 3D until it started to gather attention due to Sony and Nintendo's efforts.

sikbeta5827d ago

Well, at Least MS is trying and this will don't end up like Blu-Ray whereas MS is still denying this Tech and it'll be more like HDMI with some guys that have it and some others that don't...

FarEastOrient5827d ago

Coming out of E3 is nice, 3DS introduces that level of gaming to the casual and hardcore audience and gets them used to 3D gaming.

Than when they want to play HD games on the TV they can play them on the PS3. Currently 3D TVs are cheaper with the glasses than the glassless 3D TVs by a couple of grand.

Helping each other by improving the industry in full circle Sony is help pushing acceptance of 3DS at the same time.

darthv725826d ago

MS doesnt need 3d to succeed as much as sony does. Just like they didnt put all their eggs in the hddvd basket because it wasnt theirs to really promote.

Sony is hardware and movie/tv studios. Sony needs bluray to thrive and they can use that to make 3d thrive and if the consumers dont bite then.....

The Meerkat5827d ago

My launch 360 looks great in 1080p through VGA on my 42inch LCD

The Meerkat5827d ago (Edited 5827d ago )

Wow look at all the disagrees.
Only 1 agree.

Why don't you all come round my house and see how nice it looks?

VGA on 360 DOES support 1080p, Everyone has known this for years.
And if it can do 60fps at 1080p then there is no reason it cant do 3D.

P1NKY: Sorry but you are wrong. It does and when you plug it into your 360 the option of 1080p comes up. And the dashboard looks way nicer in 1080 than 720. and with VGA my TV does 1:1 pixel ratio so the picture is rock steady.

P1NKY5827d ago

There's a flaw in what you just said. The VGA cable that the Xbox has does not support 1080p. I tried it on my computer monitor. It also states on the back of the packaging that it does not support 1080p.

JustTheFactsMr5827d ago

How about lossless audio?
How about 3D standard used by PC industry and the rest of the CE industry?

So yes 1080p is possible over component cables but not much else related to moving technology forward.

mp12895827d ago

yes, it looks nice but the point is that it doesn't support 3d

JohnnyAkiba5827d ago

I have a componente cable for PS2/PS3 and a 1080p image looks really bad with ghost efect.
Of cource I use a HDMI...lol

Ri0tSquad5827d ago

But trust me, 360 looks much better using HDMI. There's a big jump in quality from VGA to HDMI. Colors are deeper and the everything looks crisper.

P1NKY5826d ago

Sorry but im pretty sure you are wrong or its not True 1080p. Here's a list of the resolutions the Xbox 360 VGA supports: http://hardware.teamxbox.co...

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vhero5827d ago

Surprised MS don't force 3D on a couple of huge games like Halo and screw over early users of 360 purely to force them to buy a new modern 360. As it seems the kind of thing MS would do I mean the original Xbox was complete wrote off only a few years after launch and all those early adopters screwed over. Why do people trust MS and buy there hardware exactly?

siyrobbo5827d ago

how you have more than 1 bubble i'll never know

Ryuha1234h5827d ago

Both Sony and Microsoft flop at E3

I'm just messing around people

beans5827d ago

"microsoft even though have sold 40mil 360s have really messed up this gen hardware wise from RROD to stating HDMI is not needed then adding it and now shafting earlier adopters by now including wi-fi,it just all seems abit of a mess...sorry ms fans im honest dont boo me"

What's really honest is the fact that PS3 is still stuck in third (regardless of what extras it shipped with)and very few people on either side will ever try out 3d to begin with. Whenever Sony passes 360 we can talk but until then I don't take advice from losers. :P

ThanatosDMC5827d ago

Sony probably passed the 360 on WORKING consoles.

randomwiz5827d ago (Edited 5827d ago )

Im sorry, but last time I checked, ALL 360's with HDMI had HDMI 1.2, and 3D support came with HDMI 1.4, which the ps3's HDMI 1.3 has enough bandwidth to support. So in reality, 360 can't do the real 3d because you would sacrifice resolution, and maybe even some audio quality.

That being said, I can't imagine myself buying a 3D TV until the next gen of consoles or until enough good 3d ps3 games are released. For now, it just seems impractical, because every single person watching the tv HAS to wear glasses, and at $150 a pop along with the 3d tv, it just becomes really expensive. I could easily end up spending nearly 3-4k for a 3d tv, when i could get an amazingly thin, big, beautifully looking LED tv for just $1000-$1500.

DEIx15x85827d ago

Exactly. HD took about 10 years to really take hold because of lack of content and expensive entry price. 3D is currently in the same situation where it costs way to much to get the ability to have 3D and that's not cost effective to produce for. Sony is being gimmicky with the PS3's 3D capabilities this generation. Next generation though I will be surprised if all consoles do not offer 3D as during that generation things are going to become main stream. Most gamers are not playing on the primary TV in the house (many are in dorms) so it won't be till 3D hits smaller TV's and gets to $500 that it will finally be something meaningful.

Inside_out5827d ago (Edited 5827d ago )

M$ is wrong because an ANNOMOUS source said so...nice Darin with no last name. A friend of a friend told me Sony as well as all media is trying to sell a dangerous eye debilitating gimmick, at eye popping ( literally ) prices BEFORE the glassless 3D TV's take over. Your not in on that are you Darin.

Why doesn't good ole Sony tell everyone what this tech will cost to buy??? Lets take a look starting from scratch.

PS3 $299
PS3 with Move bundle $399 ( second controller $75+ )
3D TV...approx $2500 ( 40" )
3D Glasses $150 ea

Sounds cheap...I can see the Wii casuals lining up for days to get in on this...Sony...we do everything including highway robbery.

1% of households have a 3D compatible TV. No wonder Sony's stock is down 8% this year.

M$ wait and see approach is solid and based on stats not gambling which Sony has done this whole gen and is still in last place. They signed a 3D bundle deal with LG in April...yep, must be because they can't do it. M$ wants in on the casual market. Kinect in a $299 bundle this holiday will do it. If they can find a way to make it $250 with a new 360 ( *rumored* ) coming in November, they will sell every machine they can put out.

BTW...follow this link on youtube for a peak a ALL the glassless 3D tech that is on the horizon.

Lord Gunchrote5827d ago

lol dont bash 3D cuz you can't afford it. Would you bash a porche or viper cuz they're outta your league too? and MS is ahead by 5 mill after a year head start...when will that bullet be retired?

R2D25827d ago

MS is playing the waiting game, if Sony is suceesful with 3D then MS will bring out 3D with a spain - like that 3D tech that they are working on that tracks your eye, so no glasses needed. Sony being first is not a bad thing for MS becuase if it is not succesful they can learn from Sony's mistake.

I think this will start another PS EYE MS copied Sony console war.

TEFL0N_D0N_815827d ago

You've been misinformed and probably have been spreading lies. I have a launch model (which still works, thank you for being happy for me) using a VGA cable I've been able to play video games 1080p for a very long time. In fact, 1080p can also be done on component. HDMI secured rights for 1080p movies, that's all. If you can't play 1080p over vga (nor component) on your TV, that's only because the TV input doesn't allow that level of resolution over that connection.

It's not very smart of you to state false information as facts. Makes you seem like a dumb sheep. Get properly educated, either by personal experience or extensive research.

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D4RkNIKON5827d ago

I need to get a 3DTV like now. The problem is, I can't afford one yet. Maybe next year

gunnerforlife5827d ago

boi if ms try and get 3D working on the 360 theres gone be alot of overheating consoles :/

Colonel-Killzone5827d ago (Edited 5827d ago )

I have no idea also I don't even think Microsoft cares to even push it. Didn't they say something about its irrelevant. Microsoft is worried about Kinect not 3D. The main company pushing 3D as of right now is only Sony. I won't say Nintendo because the 3DS is not out and its not doing anything as of right now to push the 3D market. In my opinion I'm picking Sony simply because they are the only ones trying to Push 3D to the extreme. They are making sure most of their First Party game utilizes 3D. They are also bundling PS3 with their 3D tvs. So as of right now Sony wins.

vhero5827d ago

Kinect won't work well with 3D that's why they won't push it unless Kinect fails.

Microsoft Xbox 3605827d ago

Kinect already taxes too much power from the 360. Can't imagine 3D on top of it. Kinect games already look like crap as it is.

DEIx15x85827d ago

Kinect includes it's own CPU so the 360 shouldn't be do much if anything extra as a result of the use of Kinect.

GiggMan5827d ago

Yeah Sony may be at the front of the 3D bandwagon but there are plenty of companies "pushing" the tech. I can't name them all of course but you have Panasonic, ESPN, NVIDIA, Toshiba, Samsung, and the movie industry just to name a few. Sony is just the ones throwing out the dollars so far.

Colonel-Killzone5827d ago

I'm talking about between Microsoft and Sony. Not other companies. But still you are right somewhat but this article is about Sony Vs Microsoft. But I still see where you are coming from.

GiggMan5827d ago

Well pushing does mean dollars too and right now Sony is spending the big bucks like they did with Blu-ray. Now look how many companies are benefiting from Blu-ray technology. I foresee the same type of thing happening with 3D once Sony gets the word out and people stop complaining about price.

Microsoft Xbox 3605827d ago

Yes everybody is pushing the tech but what Sony did with Bluray is what they are doing with 3D. Bringing it mainstream to homes via the PS3.

BeaArthur5827d ago

Call me when I don't have to wear the stupid glasses.

StitchJones5827d ago

You will not be getting a call anytime soon then. Because the way 3D works is by having those color based shifted images offset to have the glasses then provide a focus while the distance between your left eye and right eye get that generated off screen effect.
3D is YET another fad that will die out in roughly 18 to 24mths or so. Remember 1983?

sikbeta5827d ago

10 years from now and after that you still be complaining about the price -> $/€/£/¥/¢....

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio43d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing43d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9243d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit43d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing43d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9243d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

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BeHunted46d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8545d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele45d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk45d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay45d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10145d ago (Edited 45d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit45d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg45d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10144d ago (Edited 44d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14945d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Eonjay45d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn245d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn245d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown45d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay45d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay45d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac44d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger45d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300045d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde45d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde45d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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