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Kinect - What Microsoft's Doing Right

Dick Ward writes: "It’s easy to bag on Microsoft for Kinect – formerly “Project Natal.” It’s a popular whipping boy, and with plenty of good reason. It’s about as far from traditional gaming as you can get, it’s Microsoft’s attempt to jump on the Wii bandwagon, it’s not for hardcore games and, of course, you’ll look really stupid playing it.

But we know all that. Rather than beating a horse that’s been presumed dead even before leaving the stable, let’s take a look at what Microsoft’s doing right with its motion control system."

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B-Real2065806d ago

wait till gamescon! then it's on!

GWAVE5806d ago (Edited 5806d ago )

But Microsoft said they were bring the big guns to E3 this year. So, you're going to simply believe them again?

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Exactly. No one likes to wait. Especially if they were told they wouldn't have to wait...

D4RkNIKON5806d ago (Edited 5806d ago )

Wait till E3, Wait till Gamescon, Wait till Release, Wait till the devs get used to it
.... patiently waiting is fun. I just don't see why core gamers defend this crap because it is obviously not meant for them.

HolyOrangeCows5806d ago

"I just don't see why core gamers defend this crap because it is obviously not meant for them"

Over 40 million people, that includes myself, who didn't buy the 360 for Kinect have full right to be annoyed that Microsoft is diverting most of its attention to Kinect and non-gaming features.

Parapraxis5806d ago

40 million plus 1.
Got an Elite today.
Guess what, Kinect is STILL sh*t.

B-Real2065806d ago

Whatever I was being sarcastic, jeez.

Mista T5806d ago (Edited 5806d ago )

Kinect, what is it good for, absolutely nothing!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Gladiator75806d ago

Microsoft is going to be the next Nintendo, but with worse casual games.
hate when they ignoring the hardcores gamers, i mean they just giving more halo,gears of war,fable games. they giving so much limited experiences.

KILLERAPP5806d ago

“ If you’re looking for a four-player experience on the Wii, that’s $40 for each controller and $20 for each nunchuck, plus the cost of the Wii, which comes to $440. The PS3 Move costs even more.”… Show me a game on Natal that comes out of this year’s E3 press conference that four players play together at the same time, you can’t because I haven’t seen one, natal is mostly two player at the same time, cause you will have a huge room to have 4 people playing at the same time and I don’t see it maybe in a few games but you can’t compare the move or the wii to it and two player playing at the same time with the move or wii cost about the same as natal so you lose your point…

-Alpha5806d ago (Edited 5806d ago )

I think that that argument is decent. The problem though, is that when it comes to local multiplayer, I don't buy all the controllers. I have friends who bring over their own controllers, and I assume that if they buy the Move they'll do the same for that.

We additionally still have no price for Kinect and the fact still remains that Move is a better device. MS may have done local multiplayer right by endorsing family gaming, but it just doesn't interest me.

MS is doing all the right things for Kinect from a business sense. They have a core audience and know the core audience likes the Halo, CoD, etc.

They have that audience, and now want to reach out with Kinect. However, the obstacle for success still remains:

-No price tag
-No guarantee casuals will buy it (they may very well buy it, I'm sure they'll prefer it over Move anyway)
-The Wii is still a strong device for casual gamers so the competition is there

Still, MS could succeed with Kinect, but it will be for a new audience. We already have it (apparently) outselling Move on Amazon, which was totally expected. I mean, it's a device that is aimed at a bigger, broader audience and it's advertised as a social tool to chat with friends, watch movies, and play family games.

outrageous5806d ago

M$ has gone about this the right way. They know who their Kinect demographic is and are moving fast in that direction. Many developers are working on apps. It's only been around a year and are coming to grips with the tech.

Why announce a price when the device is not out for several months. It was a shrewd business decision and and it worked. Sony has said $399 for a bundle. No Wii consumers are gonna buy that and now it's generated a " it's like the Wii but costs twice as much backlash " argument.

The your shape Ubisoft fitness app is gonna be a big Kinect mover. The dance game promises crazy dance routines from great, well known instructors to some of the best music around. It's made by MTV. Kinectanimals and sports will keep kids entertain for hours. C'mon...did you see her play hide N seek, having 2 children my self I'll tell you that game is a winner...BIG, BIG sellers, more importantly, it will move 360's. that is the whole idea.

Check out this video of the Ubisoft presentation. My wife said she wanted it right away...look how precise and accurate it measures the lady...the menu's, the options...Wii Fit outsold MW2, this could be HUGE...no controller, just a wave of your hand. This is just the first gen for Kinect. The apps will get better. GDC will be awesome this year for all.

hazeblaze5806d ago

The thing about Kinect is that I haven't seen any games that I would enjoy playing with just one player, yet alone two or more! The technology has potential but it doesn't seem like developers have wrapped their head around it yet. And playing games without anything in my hands, or physical feedback, just is not appealing.

DA_SHREDDER5806d ago

The only thing Microsoft has ever done right was created Xbox live. Other than that its just a box, a remote, and 3rd party handler.

Megahurtz19865806d ago

At GamesCon they will be unveiling Kinectamils 2 featuring Snikcers the baby Wolf

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio11d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing11d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9211d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit11d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing11d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9211d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay13d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn213d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn212d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown13d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay13d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay13d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac12d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger13d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300013d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde13d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde12d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7514d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_12d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.