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IGN: Kinect vs. Wii

IGN.com: After a full year of waiting since the original unveiling of the Xbox 360's in-development Project Natal, Microsoft's newly-renamed "Kinect" device has now had a more official reveal -- the look is complete, the branding's in place, and, most importantly, we now know several actual games that we'll be playing on the new peripheral. So, of course, it's time to begin the inevitable comparisons.

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darkdoom30005814d ago

Natal vs Eyetoy would be a better comparison
along with Move vs Wii.

Iamback5814d ago

I cant believe what a bunch of pathetic liers they are, saying they were impressed by MS press!? Are you serious!? If Sony or Nintendo had press like that jokes would be flying left and right. But 300 bucks gift tend to influence your judgment. i called it yesterday that that will happen, i guess i was correct.

BX815814d ago

@ lamback Were you impressed if not care to state y?.

Iamback5814d ago (Edited 5814d ago )

BX81

If you are MS fan and say you were impressed by MS press they you are lying to yourself and me. Xbox 360 is synonyms to hardcore gamers, their press conferences have always been about hardcore gamers, at least 80% of content, this time roles were reversed. Ok lets start. COD game, cool that was good way to start. Yes it is multiplat game but they have 1 month on maps so ok a lot of people play that. Then Rising, probably best demo and that is also multiplat, and we will probably see a lot more on Sony show, maybe even Move support which makes it version to have and even without that MGS fans are on PS3.
Then there was Gears 3, great demo, Fable 3 borring cg trailer, some god of War game from Crytek, trailer was lame used real actors, we learned nothing. Then basically boring stuff begins. SUre some of those xbl/kinect stuff were cool, like voice thing but those are not games. Rest of Kinect presentation was horrible. Bunch of Wii and Eye Toy "me too" projects but i guess you think thats cool. Compared to last year pace was bad, show was much slower and targeted towards casuals.
Difference between Sony fans and MS is that SOny fans would say it was trash, MS fans like anything and everything from MS and just keep on taking it you know where.
They knew they had bad press so to affect judgment they gave free bribe 300$ gifts to every journalist in audience. Embarrassing thing to do. I promose you if Sony did that there would be an outrage. Things like that should be banned. We saw product of that IGN was really impressed which boggles my mind, considering those same guys are so hardcore and trashed Wii and motion games for years but now all of a sudden they want to "Jump in".
Dont ever again ast me to explain my self. I never write BS based on bias, i call it as i see it, SOny, MS or Nintendo.

jsx5814d ago (Edited 5814d ago )

@Iamback: an IGN editor probably makes ~$60k a year, you think $300 is going to sway their opinion? What are you 12?

Iamback5814d ago

I guess you are 12 and dont understand how human psychology works.

UltraNova5814d ago (Edited 5814d ago )

@JSX

Dont try to downplay MS's cheap shot yesterday. IGN editors might make that much money but they are still gamers like us. And gamers will always be excited and ready to play dumb when they get a brand new console for free.

Why do they sent 500 bucks worth of memorabilia with each test code ? Because they are a charity? Bottom line is that MS hits bellow the waistline openly and shamelessly and always gets a free pass to go with it.

jsx5814d ago (Edited 5814d ago )

@Iamback, UltraNova: Wow you two are seriously deluded. Journalists always get free copies to review, look at Walt Mossberg, the dude gets every gadget months before they come out. That's the way it is and will always be.

"Bottom line is that MS hits bellow the waistline openly and shamelessly and always gets a free pass to go with it."

WTF, kid, you're a total moron. Your whole comment is lacking any sign of intelligence. How is giving away your product to event attendees a "cheap shot?" A cheap shot at who, exactly? What a bunch of ignorant children on this site.

UltraNova5808d ago

@JSX Pull up your pants and stop going in reverse bended over like that with MS behind you closing in..

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Time Lord5814d ago

MS have gone from having one of the best E3 conference last year to frankly one of the worst and most embarrassing I have ever seen and I have seen each one since 2002.

vhero5814d ago

Cannot see how bowling can work correctly on Kinect I feel its gonna be frustrating without something in your hand. That being said it certainly looks nice.

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earbus5814d ago

Its been a great day i was stoked with what ms had to offer , getting in bed with crytek very smart move as was it a great day to see SDF in full action defense mode tearing everything down i love it sutch a laugh its the best.

evrfighter5814d ago

im not gonna lie.

it was entertaining. Only apple and sony fanboys can be that amusing. I personally am not intrigued by Kinect or Move though. If I wanted gimmick gaming I would have bought a 3d setup for my pc years ago.

Imperator5814d ago

Can you tell me exactly what you liked so much about it?

Was it the demos of games that had ALREADY been revealed?

Perhaps it was the very laggy Kinect interface and the very annoying presentation of Video chat...

Was it the demonstration of MS' various Wii/PS3 ripoff titles?

I simply can't understand why anyone would actually defend MS. This was far worse than Sony's 2006 conference or any of Nintendo's conferences. Just terrible.

Ilikegames765814d ago

impressed with the way the in-game character in the Star Wars game was moving the player with a little noticeable lag.

fooltheman5814d ago

and movement was on rails...^^

TheAwesomessMan5814d ago

NOw let us say first the is ahead BY ALOT! So if Microsoft is gonna do this they better step up will big. Because Nintendo is just chilaxing with their money. And just cause you gave away free xboxes doesn't mean you made a dent in the Wiis sales. But Microsoft are some gangsters or something see what they do they tryna widen the WW or NA gap between them n Sony. By releasing the system that early. They tallied how many they gave away to keep track. Haha Microsoft I see you.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio16d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing16d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit16d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing16d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay18d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn218d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn218d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown18d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay18d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay18d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac17d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger18d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300018d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde18d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde18d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7519d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_17d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.