"Well being an adult when I see my friends I want to do better things with them, than sit on a sofa playing games. You know go out drinking and partying."

Well being a responsible adult and an adult are two different things I suppose... Dude, I'm in a band that gets paid nightly 4 days a week at 3 different Casino's here in Kansas city. I've done my partying and I'm a new parent now. There are better things to be doing than partying and getting F*CKED up with your little imature buddies... You even lobbying for partying and getting wasted shows how imature you are, actually.

those games you just listed never even made me blink

after playing Crysis

It will be quite a few years before I sit here and ask myself "jesus christ is this a game????"

no doubt it'll be a pc game that does it

ps3 games are horrible to play and look at when you're used to 75fps gaming with no jaggies.

ew

You do know there is more to a game than smooth, pretty graphics right? There is more to a game than running around small maps shooting other people in a capture the flag match right? Believe it or not, and this will come to a shock to you since you're so PC pro... but there are things called stories in console games. It's true. Scripts. Real ones that are being acted out virtually. Some of these, like Shadow of the collossus say very little in dialect but a wealth in visual emotion. It's true. A console game did that. Crazy it didn't even run at 30 FPS probably. Take your little numbers and stats and piss off.

crap, nogolis

you edited your post.

i LOL'd at the PC comment... heh

and Charmers, we're talking about "when you're gaming"

But it is the height of maturity to sit around on the sofa playing computer games is it ? I mean come on here are you trying to tell us that MATURE adults are quite happy to have all the daddies around to sit on their sofa and play the latest generic shooter ? I am a mature adult and if one of my friends said "hey come and play Uncharted 2" I would quickly remove the sad cretin from my phone book.

Oh and it says a lot about YOU claiming I said "wasted" I never said that at all I merely said I would rather go out drinking or partying, you know ADULT activities.

Charmers, you sound like a closed minded tough guy who is too worried about being cool than being himself. So what, you play games. Who cares? So what, you have friends that just want sit inside a night or two and jam a game rather than jam beer down their throats. It doesn't matter. It's actually, believe it or not, more healthy and productive...

I play Guitar some 30 hours a week... Do you think I care that others are out doing better things with their time? Nope. It's what I enjoy doing and I don't care what anyone thinks about it. I don't game much anymore, I just had a baby girl in October and my time is split between her and my band but when I do I know it's on a console where I'm not chained 2 feet away from a monitor on a desktop.

I'm not ashamed to say I've jammed some games in my day. Not at all. In fact, a good game is a great way to open up some creativity in yourself. Writing, playing music and even with filming.

Well guess what nogolis it may surprise you to know that I am not chained to my desk either. I know blasphemy eh, I mean all PC gamers are chained to the desk aren't they ? I actually have my PC hooked up to a monitor on my desk and my HD TV. I can CHOOSE if I want to sit at the desk and I can CHOOSE if I want to lounge on the sofa and use my wireless keyboard/mouse/joypad. That is one of the fundamental things about PC's, it's CHOICE. I game how I want to game not how I am expected to game like you are on the consoles.

I don't think there is anything shameful in enjoying games. I have been a PC gamer for nearly 20 years. However claiming consoles are "real" gaming just because you can sit on the sofa is pathetic and childish. When you DO become an adult (and no having a child does not make you an adult) you will find that most adults will not want to sit around playing a "game" with their friends, they will want to be out there interacting socially with other adults and enjoying themselves.

Dude, you are missing the point completley... I wouldn't go up to anyone and say "hey let's go play some games, man" That's just not me. I'm using it as a point of reference for teens, the demograph who traffics the site, man. I don't sit around playing a lot of games on anything these days... But if I do I'm not ashamed of it. I don't hide that fact. And if one of my bandmates come over or I go over to there place and we wanna sit around and jam some games I'm all for it. I don't need to go out to bars and socialize, I'm in that atmosphere plenty.

I do a multitude of things with my wife and, believe it or not, some of them resort to playing video games... From our sofa on a console, no less. We're in our mid 20's by the way and being a parent takes time. It's not something you learn over night. I'm me right now... Me with a baby, but I know one day I'll be a good parent and that's all that matters.

I own them all, but the only one I wouldn't give up is my pc.
Why? Because it's MY pc. I built it. It's to my specifications. If I want to game at my desk with my mouse and keyboard, sure. If I want to play on my tv with my 360 controller, all day long. If I want to run a game on one display and chat with my friends on the other I can do that too. I can even mod my games. Copy saves.etc.
That's why I like it. It's the platform of options, and expression. Not to mention killer visuals ; )

lol, i pasted his quote to my hardcore PC gaming friend

i found it funny, i don't hate PC gaming. i just don't find it comfortable. but the specs are always ahead on PC.

Hmmm I have a pc in my living room and even with full wireless setup it's nice. I even have the old gryo mouse that let's you point like the wii mote. I think I'm going to mode a wii mote for my pc also.

I don't know I have like 3 computers or more in my house and we all play online games from poker to quake wars other wise it's the wii or me drawing up some concepts on my big screen.

If I could model on a console and texture along with zbrush I would love it.
I tend to watch movies for stories though devs can not even keep up with pixar right now.

You know on pc you could actually make some sound tracks and get paid. Also mostly every in gaming started on a pc.

Too ignorant to notice consoles are basically becoming prebuilt PC's?

it seems PC is only heading towards MMO's and FPS or casual

"it seems PC is only heading towards MMO's and FPS or casual"

Really? MMO's, yeah, but FPS - it is a strong point of the PC, but i don't think there is as much of a focus on it anymore. Casual? What?

I'd say the PC seems to start to specialise in the strategy games, and probably will do until the consoles have another control method that is suited towards that. Same with some of the RPG's, we'll see Diablo 3 absolutely shine on the PC, and even the RPG's with console versions such as Dragon age clearly show a massive advantage on the PC version.

But yeah, console ports don't do well on PC, because unlike console gamers, many PC gamers don't just follow the wind and buy the latest hype, they have years of games at their disposal that outperform many of these console ports, so why should they bother to buy them? I'm looking at you MW2.

Seeing a game that was developed with PC gaming in mind always reminds you as to why it is one of the main driving forces in where gaming will go next. Look at all the big hooks on console gaming, including online features, graphics, and even how the games are made and played, many of it was all seen on PC first. But if we just continue to see console ports to the PC, we'll loose that progression and won't only be bad for PC gaming, but i can really see it having an impact on console gaming.

casual as in flash games

Everyone knows games like Dragon Age shined on the PC an you know what I played it on PC an could not stand the slow pace of the game an couldn't stop falling asleep on it. I'm not saying its a bad game but don't sit here an act like everything that's made for the PC is golden cuz that my friend is bs an you know it. I agree about the strategy games obviously because PC so far like you said is the only way to go for that. Diablo 3 no doubt will shine on PC but who here didn't already know that, an god knows when its coming out.

An you said pc gamers have years of games an don't jump on the next big thing. Well that's not hard to say when lately for the PC world the next big thing hasn't happened since Crysis and it shows. What is the point of years of games I don't want to play, gaming is about going forward an giving new experiences. I promise you, anything I have ever wanted to play I've played it. Now 23 years old an playing since I could hold a controller I promise you I know how to pick choose an refuse. Putting people who play on console in a single group like you did is not something you should do because it is not true for everyone. Now I will give you the 360 side of things does no doubt do exactly what you said on occasion with Halo, Gears, MW2 they are ready to jump on like the sheep on the ipod in the mp3 world.

The mention of out performance an this that an the third is always brought up in pc vs console argument. Though what does it really matter if you don't have the games because that's what its really about at the end of the day. I have a gaming rig an for the longest while its been doing nothing but pretty much surfing the web an Mass Effect since I built it last July. Yet my PS3 combined with Gamefly an the occasional purchase it has given me countless hours of fun but my pc is so superior right? Now don't get me wrong I love my PC I built it for a reason but I'm not gonna sit here an act like its putting out the greatest games ever made when its really not putting out anything at all but future promises an slow rpgs.

I'll end in explaining the biggest faults in PC gaming one their is no standard for PC's. Like for instance the entire pc market agreeing no PC below these specs will be made starting now. Which is one reason why PC games haven't pushed the graphical limit as much lately but the pc only guys love to play the blame it on the console games. When in fact its the fault of that very thing they love so much that is at fault. The differences in their systems that customization they love so much is ultimately the primary issue when putting out games. You don't want to put out a game an appeal to half the market out of the gate because of your specs that's dangerous.

Another issue that comes up again with the customization of PC gaming is when they do decide to push the envelope more often then not. The game is poorly optimized an just depends on you upgrading your system over optimization. This is the one thing that console devs benefit from over time working with a standard they constantly find new an innovative ways to continue to pull out more an more performance out of a so called outdated build. A perfect example of amazing optimization is Guild Wars it has been for a long time one of the better looking MMO's doesn't require much for you to play it maxed out yet the game still holds up pretty well even today visually.

At the end of all this, point in fact is it doesn't matter if you have 1500hp if you don't have anywhere to run it.

"I'm not saying its a bad game but don't sit here an act like everything that's made for the PC is golden cuz that my friend is bs an you know it. "

Um, i'm not at all. You clearly didn't actually read what i said.

"Seeing a game that was developed with PC gaming in mind always reminds you as to why it is one of the main driving forces in where gaming will go next"

That is what I'm talking about because that is not always the case. An I love the 6 disagrees with no response because I'm betting no one got past the first sentence an could not formulate a proper response.

I think the lesson learned here is that if a pc gamer really wanted a HDTV/Sofa setup

He would have it yup, and it would be wickedly better

you guys are hilarious

:)