Pff. Zune out does my brothers iTouch and certainly my friends iPod.

Zune HD is amazingly ace.

Zune HD 32GB
Zune 4GB

Say what you want about everything else. But Microsoft did an amazing job with the Zune. Never had a better Music/Video/Radio player.

That is what you should say gwave. MS ideas are no different than those before them. They just seem to be late to the party. Zune is great but the ipod had already took the industry by storm.

windows mobile is also good. To bad palm and blackberry beat them to it. Practically everything MS has launched has been behind something else that beat them to it.

If MS really wants to go their own way then they need to stop worrying about the other guy and concentrate on what they are good at. Software. Make the software that others will want to use and dont charge an arm and leg for licensing. If they can make a better mobilephone OS and license it properly, companies like RIM and palm and motorola and .....? will use it.

Windows 7 is actually very very good. Impressive and I have not been so enthused in a windows OS since 98. It really makes up for issues people had in vista (although I didnt have any) yet most who felt burned by vista will sadly probably not even try it to see how much improved it really is.

That is just the way people are. When they get it in their heads that they dont want to try something...nothing can change their minds. No matter who much better things are now than before. It is a stigma.

How did they blow it with Bing when it JUST launched official only 5 months ago?

Do you even own a Zune? Like Eiffel said, the Zune HD is actually damn nice. It just will never get the recognition and popularity the leading MP3 player has (the iPod)...kina like Sony and the PSP vs Nintendo and the handheld market. But did Sony blow it with the PSP? No.

But of course, I would expect comments like this from you.

@darthv72

Yeah you're right. Just late to the party is it basically. Anyone who has tried Windows Mobile and say MS "blew it" with that OS is just kissing a new one. Windows Mobile doesn't suck - palm and RIM just have better mobile OSs. Zune is great, but like I said above, the iPod is just the king right now.

Windows 7 is freakin amazing though.

I know, It was my idea. =)

what is lacking in the software department compared to Android/WebOS? Like solid points on what these new OS do that WinMo doesn't? Cause everytime I weigh the pros and cons all I get is that the new ones are prettier and have nice animated menus/transitions.

Is it the crummy Android browsers that didn't have double tap to zoom until Android 2.0 that is less than 2 weeks old? Opera Mobile on WinMo has been superior for a while.

Is it the crummy Android video player that does not support other codecs and limits your play options? TCPMP/Core Media Player gives you far more options.

Is it bluetooth file transfer that finally got added with Android 2.0?
Is it app install limitations that won't let you install programs on the SD cards?

I am off contract and ready to switch phones and I keep waiting for WebOS or Android to get to the point where I am not missing functionality I have on my old WinMo phone. WinMo is OLD, not as pretty or user friendly. But in terms of what you can do with it a lot of the new OS are still trying to get to that point. It needs a facelift is all as its looked the same for almost 10 yrs now. But its no where as bad as people caught up in the Apple/Google hype make it out to be.

I just hope when WinMo 7 comes out its not a case of "wait a couple years for the OS to reach maturity". I want it to do all I can do with 6.5 and then some.

Thank you sir

I do have my phone running with WinMo 6.5, and I'm loving all the things it can do.

In a matter of fact I can not think of one thing my friend iPhone can do or have that I don't, in a matter of fact, I actually can do a lot with my phone that he can not do.

you have a touch hd... get manilla 2.5 with winmo 6.5 build 23xxx. After saying that, I can never use any other OS than HTC's Manilla 2.5.

I do agree that winmo is holding HTC back. Their phones are amazing, but winmo bogs them down.

In my opinion, the only thing winmo needs to improve on is speed, and marketplace. The Winmo 6.5 build 23xxx are amazing and beautifully skinned.

Given your comment history and constant bashing of everything Microsoft for no reason, I highly doubt you've even given a Microsoft product a chance, or are even old enough to own a phone...