That is a good point. But it still falls on Valve to reach out for help. If Valve really wanted to know how the develop for the PS3 there are a number of ways they could do that. We all know insomniac is very open the helping other development teams understand the PS3. Sony themselves have reached out to developers to help them develop for the PS3. If Valve wanted to develop for the PS3 all they'd need to do is ask, but they are too proud to admit that they don't know how.

But yes, I agree. Having such a close relationship with Sony has to have benefited both Insomniac and Sucker Punch.

I so agree with that, lol.
'Teh PS3 ish too hard to program fooooooor...oh noeeeees. :['

Valve don't like making console games at all. They're a PC dev but they saw that they could easily port the games to the 360 and get more profit. They still do give some support that the PC guys get but it's later.

hopefully we can see some results in the upcoming year

I don't know what you mean by "benefit from close relationship" in regards to Sucker Punch cause they are part of Sony's gaming studios. Sony owns them.

Insomniac aren't part of Sony studios so the comment would ring true with them but 2nd party studios dont' have the level of grip on PS3 hardware as Sony's in-house studios do.

Sucker Punch would be 2nd party, same as Insomniac.

Sucker Punch isn't owned by Sony. They're 2nd-part just like Insomniac. And when I say "benefit from close relationship", I mean that they communicate with Sony's first-parties more then other developers would. This allows them more insight from teams like Naughty Dog's ICE Team.

We know for a fact the the studios in Santa Monica(Naughty Dog, Insomniac, and Santa Monica Studio, etc.) go out to lunch frequently to share development techniques.

Valve is and always has been a PC developer. It's almost effortless to port from PC to 360. That's probably the only reason they're on consoles at all. Their products sell well enough on PC alone.

If Gabe knew how to talk to the media, that's the kind of stuff he would say, but he's utterly clueless and makes himself look like a fool.

Well you listen to fat jerkwads going off about "durrrr this can only be done on the PS3 durr".

It's the same thing to me. Except you take one as gospel and the other you scoff at.

Gabe Newell is a fat son of a b¡tch

No...I just don't think most PS3 owners care about L4D anymore. There's too many good games coming out on both platforms to care about a 8 month old game.

Besides, I played L4D back in 2007. It's called "Zombie Horde" on Counter-Strike: Source.