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Is the HipHopGamer Ruining Independent Games Journalism? Underground Hype 16

AnalogHype.com Writes: Right before Easter and the dream team is back for more of the realest talk you've ever heard in gaming. I hope you enjoy listening to your iPod during your Easter egg hunts because you won't want to delay on listening to this episode. The cast consists of Michael, Quentyn, Adrian, and Keem and they get together to discuss the week in gaming, as well as an extra bonus topic that everyone felt the need to touch on:

* Trailer Impressions and Analysis: Bioshock 2, The Secret World, Assassin's Creed, and more.
* Grand Theft Auto IV: Ecstasy Wars. Who would give a 10 year old drugs?
* In-Game Advertising: Will game publishers take advantage of gaming being a bigger prioritiy over primetime TV amongst games?
* Perfect Dark on the Xbox Live Arcade: Can it and will it happen?
* Reviews and Impressions: Senor Fresco gives us the goods on Godfather 2
* Exposure: The crew gives their opinion on the well-known Hip Hop Gamer.

There is a ton more to hear about, as well, and you absolutely cannot miss it! Check it out after the jump

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omfg.....again? don't you guys realize your only giving him more hype and attention by writing articles and posting them on N4G? if you don't like his stuff, stop supporting it. ffs, for a bunch of complainers on this this site you guys really aren't the brightest bunch. by now i would have thought you would managed to realize that complaining over HIS OPINION is only helping out his site and his show, if you don't like what he has to say stop clicking on his articles and crying
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Guys, this feud thing is really getting out of control. And HHG is *always* involved... ding, ding!
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you cant attack other sites. just leave the dude alone, sheesh. This is just wrong how many people are attacking him. he's just doing what he loves to do, no one is being forced to listen.
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Enough. Get this $#!+ out of here. If you have talk about a specific N4G patron to get hits, then you don't deserve an audience.
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Straight Life6124d ago

O Cmon, it just his opinion, leave him alone.

Elvfam5116124d ago (Edited 6124d ago )

It's his writers that just write flame bait articles and not concentrate on making really good articles i use to watch his show but just stop after it started and we should go against HHG because he's letting it happen

Edit: Below lol thanks for the laugh

snipermk06124d ago

I bet HHG is gonna reply with. "Yo biatch, I dine with da Jeff Rubenstein. I'm also Aaron Greenterd's biatch. So booyah!"

TheAntiFanboy6124d ago

Agree. Leave the man alone. If you don't agree with them, then go read another blog.

Microsoft Xbox 3606124d ago

HHG is ok, but his staff writers especially MattG, is what's ruining his site.

UltimateIdiot9116124d ago

HHG needs to control his staff from writing ridiculous articles. So, yes, he is ruining game journalism indirectly. But I also don't think HHG is the only one ruining indie game journalism.

Kushan6124d ago

His opinions are fine, they're as valid as anyone's, it's his outlandish headlines and baseless "predictions" that I (and most others) have a problem with.
Combining hip hop and gaming? Fine.
Going around interviewing people from the industry? fine.
Literally making up headlines in order to score hits? NOT fine. Not fine by a long shot.

original seed6124d ago

HHG = Great guy. Good opinions. He actually gets back to people.

HHG staff = Crap. He needs quality control on his site. Hydro is the worst. Matt G needs work. Agent-x has a lot of useless cr@p. Cr@p drawings from his friends. His "Singing". Australian idol?? Cmon.

sofresh2006124d ago

Devoting an entire article to bash someone's opinion is pretty ridiculous.

MakoXL6124d ago

Funny how you gotta use his name to get hits.

morganfell6124d ago (Edited 6124d ago )

Anti fanboy you and anyone with you are absolutely wrong. Welcome to the real world. hhg is now receiving the attention he deserves for several reasons. First of all he has made himself a public figure. Here is a little rule to follow that will save such people a great deal of trouble.

"Don't stick it out there if you are afraid of getting it whacked off."

As you can see that has several applications...

But here it fits justly because he and those that bear his name have stepped onto a public forum. In fact by design they brought themselves onto a social network that existed before he began his ill gotten climb to so called fame. He and his people have intentionally attempted to force their opinions on us.

Now without thinking, someone is getting ready to write, "If you do not like it don't read it or listen to his show."

And I will respond with, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

If you do not like what analoghype had to say why comment on it as you have. Just move on. You are asking others to do something you above did not.

Who here hasn't left a negative comment on some news story in an instance where we could have done otherwise. We could have just moved on but we didn't. Let's not ask others to do something of which we have all shown ourselves incapable. Otherwise there would exist NO negative PS3, 360, PC, Wii, PSP, DS, etc etc comments. Everyone would have just moved on.

If you want to say what he and his site put out is just an opinion, well so are the articles giving him the smackdown. What makes his opinion better than articles that express an opinion OF his opinion? Answer? Nothing. There is no room to wiggle or to take the high road for those that attacked analoghype on this account. Shame.

Remember, the minute he decided to make himself a public figure he also became the news. Even more so in that he and his are attempting to have an impact on a hobby we all enjoy a great deal and one from which some visitors here derive income. Income which they use to feed their family. So you are also asking certain persons to shut up concerning an individual that is having an impact on the method most here use for enjoyment and a few here use to put food on the table.

The other reason everyone here has a right to attack this guy should be patently clear. If you can't see it, and apparently you do not, then your words were written with far less foresight than that of which you believe yourself capable.

By becoming a public figure and then attacking games and consoles he seeks to damage or assist the experience those consoles can offer. He and those under the banner of his ridiculous name seek to influence as much as possible the game world. Whether they can or do is not part of the equation that matters. In fact, though I believe their actions are intentional it is of no consequence if that is true either.

The fact is they are not throwing their opinion out without expectation. By acting as they have they are screwing with a pastime I enjoy and one from which I derive some side work. Do I need the money? No. Mainly it gives me early access to titles before they hit alpha. So sorry, or rather not, I am not going to stand by for that. No one here that enjoys gaming should put up with their haphazard actions.

Finally, and this is a reason everyone on any side in the platform war should take offense. The work at hhg is quite honestly little more than abhorrent writing and an insulting attempt at journalism all around. As human beings we should be offended. Particularly by some of the incredulous postulations. With insights that have all the depth of a kiddie pool, question mark journalism that is a thin disguise for website hit generation, and observations that are frankly insulting to even the low brow among us, no one should stand by and allow such idiocy to permeate our industry or society. It is an affront to common sense and good taste.

When we as gamers have spent so much time convincing the general public that we all are creatures of some intellect rather than the degenerate dropouts and inept social morons we have long been stereotyped to be then it is easy to see why hhg and his crew have to go the way of Cro-magnon man.

rockleex6124d ago (Edited 6124d ago )

"Games journalism" was going down the drain LONG before Hip Hop Gamer came along.

In fact, HHG was pretty cool when he came out. Most people liked his shows and wanted him to get big. But he started selling his integrity for hits... just like any other "games journalist" nowadays.

Only difference is, his headlines are 10 times more flamebaiting than 95% of the other "articles" on N4G. And we all know how flamebaiting N4G "articles" are. >_<

In fact, I still enjoy his video shows. I just don't like READING whatever's on his site.

xabmol6123d ago

I don't read the articles and junk on his site.

His shows however, are still awesome. That GDC footage made a lot of people shut there flap. I thought that was funny. Got another HHGS comin up here pretty quick too. Can't wait!

emitsomla6123d ago

i agree with these individuals, even though they sounded like they were Haters. hhg is a clown. he thrives off of SONY fans, and flame bait. example: He stated that XBOX 360 will never be able to produce games equal to the quality of killzone 2. This is pure unsupported, false flame bait! He rarely has any valid information to support his twisted flame bait views. But people (Sony fans) still support him. If you are going to thrive off of flame bait, at least back it up with facts.

PATthePlague6123d ago

I think all of the independent bloggers that have popped up in the last few years are ruining game journalism including analoghype. These bloggers are usually fanboys that create a site so their opinion could have a greater influence in the community.
I have watched the hiphopgamershow since he first started it, and I find his show entertaining. If you watch his earlier shows, you can tell that he was a very opinionated sony fanboy hurt by the ps3's bad press when it was released. I think he intially created the show to defend the sony platform. But as he gained more popularity and met aaron greenberg, he started catering to the xbox 360. This show has always been very rough around the edges and you could tell that he still needed lessons on grammar, organization, and delivery of the news during his show.
However, hhg is a very intelligent person and his ability to analyze information, social skills, and fearlessness towards the industry is the reason why his popularity has increased. What he needs to do is stay in school and he would be a better journalist. I say this because despite his gifts and passion, he doesn't know how to properly write. Also during an interview with one of the godfather developers I think he couldn't even pronounce the word "linear". The point is you can be intelligent and not knowledgeable. You see hhg is knowledgeable about what's going on in gaming but to be a journalist you have to first master the english language to be a better communicator of that information. This is reason why i feel that hhg gets flamed alot on the net. Another reason is that he is black and succeeding in a racist america but that is a whole other matter.
Also when hhg started becoming more popular, he started creating these misleading titles to his articles to get hits to his site. He should definitely change that because for a reader to click on an article out of curiosity and find something else is an insult and very unprofessional journalism. You don't want to be the gaming national inquiror site. If you lose crediblity, you will lose your popularity.

Fencefry6123d ago

Bubbles for writing a n4g comment that big.

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euchreprof6124d ago

yes Hip Hop Gamer is a "playa" and he totally embellashes everything but SO WHAT I AM NOT A CHILD and I can make up my own when I wanna believe him or just go with what he is saying for fun... who cares... HE IS ENTERTAINING!!!! TAKE NOTES!!! When I want REAL JOURNALISM I goto IGN.COM but when I want to be entertained each Sunday for an hour it's Hip Hop Gamer Time! CAN'T TOUCH THIS!!

PS: The guy tries his best WITH HIS HEART ON HIS SLEEVE and is actually going to the yearly special events and getting many dev interviews to boot. So what if his titles are misleading... i think they are funny if you ask me and I think Hip Hop Gamer just has a sense of humor.

-EvoAnubis-6124d ago

No. HHG is fine.

Are his "writers" ruining it?

Damn right they are.

TiLL i DiE6124d ago

his writers write what they are assigned to write

Max Power6124d ago

that his writers write what ever they want, with out any direction from HHG, and the only problem he has is allowing it on his site.

Sharingan_no_Kakashi6124d ago

The only thing he ruins is his own name. He gives great interviews, and event coverage and all. But he likes to flame and thats why i only watch his show during gdc and E3. And his bloggers shouldnt be allowed to post their crap on n4g. Speaking of flaming what do you think this article does?

ogwilson6124d ago

Whoever said anything about him flaming, though? Try listening to the podcast.

Sharingan_no_Kakashi6124d ago

i dont have to listen to it. Out of all the topics listed why does the 1 about hhg make the headline? Cuz he's a controversial topic that causes alot of flame wars thats why.

TheColbertinator6124d ago

I would not put HHG and.

Journalism in the same sentence.He is just a gamer with a webcam .Not much more than that.

swiftshot936124d ago (Edited 6124d ago )

bubbles for pointing out that FACT, he has zero credibility what so ever.

DelbertGrady6124d ago

If you want Hiphopgamer off the site, stop commenting on his posts and stop clicking the link to his site. Until you do that you will only see more and more of his crappy flamebait.

Bits-N-Kibbles6123d ago

I'll give him props for having a goal and trying to accomplish it (having his own tv show about gaming, something he enjoys)

But to say he is a reliable source or to take him seriously is hard to do especially with the way he presents himself.

I say: "Keep up the hard work and keep working toward the goal. You are who you are, so I'm not telling you to be someone else, but HHG maybe tone down the 'im a gangsta' feel. Give us your news or views (and those that hate, aren't forced to go to your website or read anything) but there is no need to dress it up in the way you do.

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An Update to Our Shared Commitment to Safer Gaming

Discover how Sony Interactive Entertainment, Nintendo, and Microsoft continue to collaborate to improve player safety across our platforms.

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Ecco the Dolphin Returns With Multiple New Games in Development

Ecco the Dolphin is returning, with original creators confirming multiple new games and related projects now in development.

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Yi-Long1d 23h ago

Loved Ecco on Megadrive/Genesis. Diving out of the water was always a fun feeling, and the whole 'vibe' while playing/exploring was pretty chill and special.

Always hoped we'd get a proper 3D sequel with modern-tech water-graphics and physics. (Same wish for Wave Racer btw).

Rebel_Scum1d 18h ago

It was pretty chill until you get to the last 2 or 3 levels. My god Welcome to the Machine was brutal.

killagram1d 12h ago

You can always play an emulated Ecco: Defender of the Future on Flycast, or if you have a real Dreamcast play it there.

fr0sty1d 7h ago

This makes me smile. I hope that the game and especially the soundtrack keep the same relaxed vibe.

Rebel_Scum1d 18h ago

That is amazing news. Keep it level based or metroidvania but dont go the roguelike route and it should be good.

Pergele1d 16h ago

Now do Shining Force, the small but passionate fanbase wants a new game so badly.

jznrpg1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

That brings me back. I know I have a couple copies on Sega consoles but they’re in a box somewhere.
I may check out a new game if done well

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There's an Underrepresented Majority That Wants Entertainment Without Agendas, Says Ex Tripwire CEO

Ex-Tripwire CEO John Gibson shares his 'Entertainment First' vision to capture the agenda-free magic of classics like Star Wars, Zelda, and Metroid.

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Goodguy012d ago

Yes. Just make a good game instead of worrying it should make some kind of stupid social/political differences in the world... we've got enough of that in the real world. Games are places we can escape to and just have fun.

z2g2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

How about you make a game that’s important to you and the people who are interested in that buy it and the ones that don’t like it don’t have to buy it. Just because something bugs some people doesn’t mean there aren’t other people who it doesn’t bug. Someone’s hangups shouldn’t be other people’s problems.

Don’t want a game that features a political or cultural statement or an underrepresented group of people? Don’t buy it.

Not all of us just want vapid, mindless fantasy all the time. Sometimes we want something that represents us or means something. There’s nothing wrong with that. Look how many movies in the world have covered so many types of stories, people or historical controversies to huge successes. Games are no different.

Eonjay2d ago

The plot to remove representation or ideas and content that you dont approve of is an agenda within itself. Its also censorship. People need are trapped in this main- character syndrome where they believe that the world and all of its happens are fashioned for them alone.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

"Don't buy it"
Exactly what people do.
And then big companies are reminded why if you want to make money you may not want to do things like villainize half your market. If you want to preach one side of an argument you're gonna lose people. At least do the Deus Ex/GTA thing and show the warts on both sides so everyone has something to agree with

senorfartcushion2d ago

We’re still waiting on that Splinter Cell remake…

raWfodog2d ago

On the flip side of that, good games can have characters of different ethnic and social backgrounds without thinking that some agendas are trying to be pushed. I've played many, many great games throughout my life with many different characters (male, female, white, people of color, even some animal characters) and loved them all simply for the story and entertainment they provided me while I escaped into those worlds.

senorfartcushion2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That’s not possible.

Being a child doesn’t remove the political points of OLD GAMES, we were just kids. In fact, older media was decidedly more political than some of the cowardly, childish efforts we have today.

This is precisely why we are still to get that Splinter Cell remake. We can’t have a fun Splinter Cell game with AAA graphics because a few virgins don’t want “politics in their games.”

neutralgamer19922d ago

Keep gaming free of nonsense. Agenda pushing in social media age has gotten worst

senorfartcushion1d 10h ago

Name a game and I’ll tell you what the agenda was

Notellin2d ago

"While our first game is faith-based"

Yeah you guys want to get rid of all the politics and play a nice Southern Baptist game. We get it.

Christopher1d 22h ago

He should follow his own words, then.

*** That changed around two years ago, when he started consulting for Bible X, the studio behind the Christian-based game project Gate Zero. Last month, Gibson, through his recently established publisher Templar Media, acquired the developer.***

Not sure there's anything more political in history than religion.

S2Killinit1d 20h ago

But his statement is also an agenda. Hope people are intelligent enough to know that.

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z2g2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I fail to see how representing actual underrepresented or making them feel included is an “agenda”. This is an extremely self centered selfish viewpoint. Those actual underrepresented people just want to be recognized as valid. The privileged majority who are always represented take that for granted and can’t deal with the fact that “other” types of people or views exist. Inclusion or awareness isn’t an agenda. It’s representing reality and making those “other” people or stories be seen and align with actual reality.

There are literally thousands and thousands of games to choose from, and if you are annoyed that some have cultural or topical relevance, that’s your problem and you don’t have to buy them. Meanwhile other people who want that actually have games that speak to them. So sick of this “my way or the highway” attitude.

And there are plenty of games out there, if that privileged majority have an issue or don’t want a game based on cultural relevance. Pick up a Switch. Most games are g-rated, noncontroversial cartoons with stories fit for tweens. No reality to get mad at.

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KyRo2d ago

It's always me me me me me with you lot. There's a difference between representation and forcing it for the sake of forcing something to a very very loud but very small minority.

Christopher2d ago

You really are only proving their point with this sort of response to the idea of people feeling included in some games versus the plethora of games without it.

Outside_ofthe_Box2d ago

We need to define what "forcing" is because I've seen people say things like Aloy being female in Horizon is pushing an agenda or catering to a "very very loud but very small minority" before.

dveio2d ago

@z2g

I personally think you've nailed it here.

For decades, wether in film or music, there had been ONE primary target group.

And if you're looking further, even in economy, laws, courts or any other area there had been only one target group.

While others, let's be real, were surpressed.

It's "funny" though - why do we all think personalities like David Bowie, Mick Jagger, Freddy Mercury, etc., have had such a huuuge impact on cultures and society? Because they were 1:1 depicts of the Demon Slayer or the Duke?

No, because they were different. Because we all are different.

The only people time and time again that are complaining, whining and moaning about everything (while highly likely even been a fan of Queen or something) are prejudiced people.

Are people that "But it's never been any different, and I want it to stay that way!".

There's nothing highly hidden here. It's always been the same. After decades, even centuries of rules written by and for the "one primary target group", they are now the loudest that complain & moan.

Inverno2d ago

Y'all could also, ya know, just not buy games you feel have an agenda? This constant bitching coming from all these whiney men every time they see a game that isn't catering to them specifically is tiring. They latch themselves onto these games and throw endless amounts of harassment as if there aren't another thousand games releasing before/around/after. I'm usually outspoken when it comes to forced diversity in games, but the issue here is you're all bigoted as hell and need to learn to be a little less offended. Y'all become the snowflakes you mocked so much lol.

MrDead2d ago

This guy is one of the biggest most delicate snowflakes out there, I'm sure he'll be crying on Tucker Carlson or Fox "News" again soon.

Michiel19891d 23h ago

@christopher cater to and include are two very different things. Played most of the games you mentioned and had no issue with any of em because they just include it. I have no issue with inclusion of that, but if in the next god of war, Kratos would all of a sudden hyperfocus on being a strong independent man or a hypermasculine one, I would give them shit for it as well. It has nothing to do with the inclusion of x or y group, but about the integrity of the game.

@inverno stop putting words in my mouth . It's actually the opposite of what you say, I said there can be no conversation because as soon as you criticize them, a whole angry mob comes at you and tries to cancel you. Thankfully it's become less and less over time and people actually realize now they can voice their opinion without having the fear of losing their job.
You really can't see that a lot of companies are now backpeddalling about the woke bs? They finally realize making your product worse to cater to a group who doesn't buy your product anyway is terrible.

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PitbullMonster1d 18h ago

Who was crying about kingdom come deliverance, Stellar Blade and the first descendant? White Hetero men Or leftards?

Inverno1d 6h ago

Leftards but those games still went on to release and become financially and critically successful. This dood, who was a CEO, went on social media to voice an opinion that at the time was controversial. Just cause you have freedom of speech and expression doesn't mean you hafto always voice your opinions publicly. He had to step down because it was more about the company than just him. Now he's back talking bout "unrepresented majority", as if there aren't different audiences to cater to. Since people from both sides can't seem to escape getting fired for voicing opinions then I guess everyone's got to equally face the consequences of their inability to shut up.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Star wars, anti agenda? Lol. I don't think Lucas would agree.

Inverno2d ago

One of the most politically charged movies in existence. They can pretend it's all about space wizards with swords but the space nazis are still in the movies and they're still the bad guys. It's ironic as hell.

JEECE2d ago

More evidence that if the agenda feels legitimate within the story's world, people don't even notice that it is an agenda and they don't complain.

Elit3Nick2d ago

This one gave me a chuckle, too.

JEECE2d ago

As ever, this is a misguided expression of the speaker's issue. While of course there are some games (pure puzzle games, etc) that have no agenda, any game with a narrative is conveying some type of message. What people who say they don't like "woke" or "politics in games" actually mean is that they don't like hamfisted, poorly written narratives/characters that are thin veneers for modern political messages that feel out of place in the game's universe. It's why all these people complain about the Veilguard and not Baldur's Gate 3. They both have "woke" characters but in BG3 they feel like they belong in the universe, while in the Veilguard they just feel like generic fantasy skins for modern American 20-somethings.

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