@Minatro

it will become more and more evident as time goes on, there is already evidence now

-MGS4 filling up 50 gigs
-MLB 2K8, couldn't fit on DVD.. had to DL the rest
-360 RPG's on multi-disk, LO on a whopping 4 disks! is this the 360 or the Playstation?
-id saying Rage won't fit on DVD
-2 Days 2 Vegas devs saying DVD is too small
-more

So....to ask again....what does the extra space add?

I am surprise you are asking that question. More space means more room to store uncompressed game assets like audio files and hi res textures etc.

Which every way you look at it. Blu-ray is an advantage. Disc swapping is last gen.

You refer to Crysis but you know dam well that crysis is installed on a harddrive and it needs a fairly good processor and video card to run it. If Crysis is running on console at its current state then your argument would be valid.

"about 6 times faster in terms of data transfer speed." >>>>> *IF* they used 4X drive instead of 2X

"So....to ask again....what does the extra space add? "

5Gb to your HDD ???? XD

There we go, so the added space helps with textures, audio, and uncompressed things of that nature.

Thanks for the info.

I just wanted to know what the added space was used for. lol.

NG Sigma 2 w/ extra play modes, extra characters, and coop mode. You can fit all that on blu-ray. Assuming NG 2 filled up the dvd, then you'd need to get those extras as dlc.

That proabbly has more to do with extra dev time, and minus Itagaki's ego.

killzone 2 fits on a single layer blu ray disk,
which means 25 GB or less. The lead programmer said this.

The added space is mostly used for uncompressed 7.1 audio, which takes up a looooot more space than dolby 5.1 sound.

MGS4 is on a dual layer disk (50GB) because of the 7.1 audio and the HD commercials thats in the game

Question how much space Crysis take of your HDD? 12gb right?

¿So what if Microsoft Xbox360 decide to bring all games in more than 1 disc and you install for example 3 disc (7gb each = 21gb) on the HDD but only use the disc 1 just like on PC its that good for X360 or Bad?

¿Its that possible?

I know you are going to bring the Arcade excuse but the good thing about the arcade its that you can buy the HDD of whatever quantity you want.

I know that sound takes up 'a lot' of space, and is pretty much the main reason why blu-ray is usefull, but why would a developer attempt to use high-res textures in a videogame on a console.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you normally write textures to the ram, then stream it, physically limiting you to the space available in ram? Unless you're streaming off disc, which is extremely slow and rarely used, and also require a lot of compression?

And while the disc has the ability to hold extra content, it's very rare that space is a limiting factor. I never heard of a developer cutting content for a game on that basis alone, 99% of the time content is dropped because of time and cost constraints.

either way, I personally haven't seen any major benefits of blu-ray. Other than the darkness which had some interesting tv things that the 360 didn't have, and the sound in MGS4 blu-ray has yet to prove itself as a requirement of 'next gen' games.

As for disc swapping, the same ammount of time is required to swap discs or load to harddrive, so I don't see any difference, neither seem nextgen to me.

And crmbre, read times being faster on dvd is just one advantage, no matter how you look at it, so I wouldn't say blu-ray is better in every way.