if you are only private class you will be given only 2 to 4 clips maximum due to supplies and the other soldiers, in a war if you have lets say 12000 soldiers 20 clips each isn't exactly going to be cheap considering every bullet needs to be made in a certain way, lets just say you cant put a .50 cal bullet in your .45 :P.

If you level up you get extra ammo, more important ranks get more respect (bullets, weapons squads ETC) so you can gather yourself. As for the leveling system itself, i admit it can be a little slow but ultimately more rewarding in the end if you ask me.

Please agree and give bubbles because some moron took 1 away :( and i didn't deserve it.

of retarded people . these idiots should go live in ethiopia where there is no games .

IVE HAD 2 WAIT 5 FRIGGIN YEARS 4 IT

Agreed not everyone will think it is flawless. However how is this news? N4g is now Nothing For Gamers!

It was smart for them to not open up all of the classes at once, thats how the MP gets better and better. It would be like a fighting game that starts off with all the characters.

There's plenty of ammo for MP since the average player doesnt stay alive long enough and it's realistic for someone to not carry 1000 bullets on them at a time.

"What’s my Ping?" There's no lag so who cares?

"You need to press X to respawn, and then in the menu that comes after that, pressing X takes you out, but pressing O re spawns you.. you if you press X twice (of which there are LOTS of chances) then you will be taken to the quit option.. and if you’re really in the heat of the battle.. you will immediately press “Oh no, its O” and then quit the match."

It helps to push X to respawn, you might be interrupted and pop up on the map and get killed. Also you can see whats going on around you on the kill cam so you can plan out what you can do when you respawn. Another reason is Tacticians can throw spawn points so you can choose a new spawn point and then press X to spawn. No one pushes Circle at all...Circle is probably the most unused button in Killzone since its only used to arm/disarm bombs in search and destroy, or to take ammo from ammo crates.

Class System is good. People will actually learn to play and do objectives before moving onto an engineer etc.
No, in KZ2 basic rifles are as good as Sabotage SMG which is unlocked later on. Its balanced.

There are assit points for repairing and reviving

Cover in MP was not implemented due to being everyone staying behind cover. That is why beta was there. It does not work online.

AMMO IS NOT A PROBLEM. You start with 128 Bullets after you get a badge, and engineers repair ammo crates that gives you instantly full ammo and grenades. Ammo is least of a problem. At start, when no one had engineer unlocked it was but its not anymore.

No console game shows the ping number from what I know of, only a bar.

Dedicated servers = no lag

the only problem is the tactician

spawn grenade should not be allowed near the mission target,especially search and destroy.
also the spawn grenade almost made the revive ability meaningless.

Tell me one MP game that DOESN'T have problems?

This is one whiner. Howabout some news today? Eh?

Ok enough is enough. I have a problem with the MP too (just a little bit) but jeez already.

I'll just say I don't agree with the article. Play enough of the game and you understand why things are set up as they are. It forces you to learn the classes and get good at them before you unlock something new.

Give everyone access to everything at the start and people won't experiment with the other classes and what they offer. BF2 did that and I never played more than two classes.

Team Fortress 2 already exists.

no game is perfect but this game runs close to it

The title should have been "Problems that I think KZ2 MP has". I hate opinion pieces like this, which try to act as if everyone agrees with their statements even before they made it.

Killzone 2 MP is fun, and that's the entire point of having the thing in there right?

so before he wanted more turrets and than he complained that its to chaotic....he is just like a brook babbling

I just enjoy playing the game the way its setup, I only wish it had a party setup

When issues with Halo 3 and GOW2 are found they're incorporated into gameplay.

With KZ2, they're only complained about.

the problem? = it's addicting

Well this is nitpicking'

First off it doesn't take long at all to unlock all the classes, and it's better this way because it encourages you to try the different classes rather than just" I'm a sniper""I'm a medic" etc,

Assists, at first i questioned that too, but once you hit 2800 points where the classes are all unlocked the points are irrelevant-except for leaderboards, so I could care less about the assists

The ammo, well once you unlock a very easy to get ribbon,your ammo is doubled, so that's not a big deal. you can also pick up guns from dead ppl or goto ammo crates. It sucks at first but the blue ribbon you need whatever is is called i got really quick as everyone else will

Umm why do u wanna c your ping??I have never had a prob with connections during matches, the lobby is quick. That just seems like a retarded point

You have to admit,,, Killzone 2 not having a party or invite friend system sucks pretty bad. It took me and my friend 20 mins just to find a game that we could play together in. And then the room only had one map. It was lame.

These "Killzone 2 has flaws" articles are starting to grow old. I would much rather talk about the good things the game does, so where are those articles?

Yes, it does. Just like EVERY single online multiplayer game out there. That doesn't mean it's bad. This game is ridiculously addicting and fun.

the job classes need balancing, come on, assault class with full life barz, boost, and a shotgun. i whore the mess out of that tactic. i have enter rooms with very little time left and rang up 7 or 9 straight kills before the time of the match ended. i couldn't die. I was too quick, too much armor, and a full boost with shotty that is too much. the game is very laggy. i love it but it has been too many times i have headshotted someone and then they killed me, only for them to die in 5 seconds from my bullet. i have excellent ping, 2 to 3 green bars in MGO, 3 to 4 green bars in CODWaw, COD4. the game has many flaws, but lets face it, it is the best shooter out right now. even still i am not going to ignore the flaws of killzone2.

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it's minimal, though. using this glitch won't get you significantly more kills.

Ok first off this person has horrid grammar and it gave me a head ache reading this.

Second off almost nothing he says is valid.

The class and weapon systems work the way they do because they want players to earn what they get and in addition to that more and more online shooters are implementing job systems and most of them are nearly identical so they went with something a little more unique to shake things up.

No assist points is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. If you are a sniper you are supposed to be aiming for the head in which you would get a 1 shot kill therefore making assist points worthless. Any one else complaining about no assist points is a vulture killer plan and simple.

As stated by some of the other posts the Cover system would have slowed the MP down alot and they didn't want a gears style MP mode.

As for ammo this is the stupidest complaint on the list. One of the medals you will get by just playing the game as a normal player gives you more ammo and in addition to that there are Ammo crates around spawn points in most of the matches that give you maximum ammo and grenades so there is really no reason to be complaining about ammo.

The ping problem is also somewhat pointless to mention. I have played about 100 matches online and I have never seen any lag and the little I did see was so minor as to be unnoticeable. The vast majority of the matches are like this so no need for a ping system.

As for CQC deaths. It actually harder to kill with CQC in this game. Most games have a 1 hit kill CQC or a from behind 1 hit kill so it really doesn't matter. Also not instantly respawning is because you can wait for a medic to raise you and if one is nearby why not just wait a second so he can raise you instead of having to run across the entire map again. And I have never ever accidentally quit a match by spamming the X button so I have no idea what is going on there.

Lolz this article is stinky. The mplayer is called progression. Noobs dont get it all the first match! You have to work your way up with equally matched players. The system works very well as you grow as a player.

guerilla did a great job here without ???

Soda, these folks hitting you with disagrees about the Church comment are in SOOOO much denial. You speaketh the cold hard truth.

this is the worst article ive ever read. the things he complained about just make him sound like a baby. i dont know what is wrong with having to level up to get weapons, it seems like a pretty common thing in multiplayer games. its a good thing that the snipers are last, too many people use them as is. i dont know where he got that only a few would use it. all in all this person is an idiot just nitpicking a good game.

a welcome addition. But;

"ou need to press X to respawn, and then in the menu that comes after that, pressing X takes you out, but pressing O re spawns you.. you if you press X twice (of which there are LOTS of chances) then you will be taken to the quit option.. and if you’re really in the heat of the battle.. you will immediately press “Oh no, its O” and then quit the match."

What the hell are you talking about? This is absolutely incorrect!

This guy needs to learn how to write and elaborate on his reasoning to why the multiplayer is lacking. My only criticism of kz2 multiplayer is I expected it to be a bit more tactical and a lot less base raping. GG really ought to fix the proximity to which a tactician spawn point can be placed to any other spawn point to avoid this problem. Aside from that brief rant of mine Kz2 is a fine game.

with the primary and secondary options.

I hope they can organize a similar party system. One like R2 should be fine. Then again...that should be in the XMB if you ask me!

Of course Killzone 2 has its issues, but what multiplayer game doesn't? E.g. CoD4 was pretty bad pre-patch, as some people have said.

This guy's clearly full of it, and he's just nitpicking 'cos there's nothing else for him to complain about.

We really dont care about pathetic writers and forum posters cause obviously neither of you have anything better to do except talk about killzone2 ....

Best online multiplayer game I have ever played. Simple as that. And, I know it will just get better and better with tweaks and DLC

Killzone 2 does have some problems. I can care less about party systems if we can't find a game we make our own. On the other hand there are some noticable glitches in the game system. Ever game that comes up on the list is always full even though it says 28/32. I think they need to work on that abit. It takes me forever to find a game that will let me in. Also the delay in death is so broken. I would do a headshot with a shotgun and insted of dieing he was able to kill me 3-5 seconds later. Often times I would die and the other guy wouldn't don't make much since. It does not make me want to put it down the the multiplayer is so much fun I ignore it for the most part. I really enjoy the game.

is no respawn games.. just imagine how much more fun and team based everything would be.. the medic badge would shine.. just think.. ur about to die and your friend saves u.. u would appreciate the medic a lot more with no respawns.. And every team would utlize all the badges better with no respawn matches..

... So I'm getting a kick out of these replies...

I find the class system clever. It forces people to try everything before to chose their class of predilection. At the beginning, i was pissed not being able to have turrets, for example, but once i got the engineer class, i understood how hard it was to be an engineer (unlike Team Fortress 2).

And that's quite quick actually, you just have to play 10-15 hours to unlock everything, including secondary abilities. The ammos are also an experience factor, as you can get extra ammos once you achieved a certain thing (like killing 10 people in TDM 8 times). Plus the second ability of engineers is to repair fix machineguns and ammo packs, so unless you are in a dumb team, there is at least one engineer that can give ammos. It would probably be better to drop ammos once dead, but it would maybe unbalance the game for snipers and commandos (the ones with bazookas).

My main problem with KZ2 MP is when you die and you have to wait until it shows "press X to respawn". It takes a second more to be able to respawn compared to the display of the message. One second is not more, but pressing X in the void whereas it's written we can is pretty irritating.

This, and maybe the lack of power of the turret / aerial turrets. The engineer is forced to have a shotgun, i could hope the turret would be highly effective but it's not. It was a pain in the ass to get the engineer medal (killing 5 persons with a turret 8 times). There is also the tactician, i don't think it's a good idea to be able to drop a respawn point everywhere in the map. In Search & Destroy games, it can be a real butchery to plant a bomb, when you have both teams that spawn at the same place. There should have places where it's impossible to respawn.

Otherwise, i'm pretty fine with KZ2 MP, i pass much time on it and enjoy it.

Sony really does need another mainline shooter franchise. They pretty much gave up after the PS3 generation, and I'm really surprised they haven't tried at another high-profile, singleplayer-centric shooter; even if it weren't Killzone or Resistance.

I miss Killzone while I can see why they still do Horizon has some really good things but I do think that Horizon is overrated imo.

Or how about studios focus on projects that they feel passionate about, and not be forced to make something they have little interest in. It shows in the final product.

It’s still got potential for the modern era. The DNA is all there. The install base is there. The interest is there. The time is now.

Killzone 2 and 3 were farkin brilliant and way better than halo

Too bad they've abandoned em smh, then theres sony barely even acknowledging what us fans want. Every time they sale a certain high amount it get like that with them smh

Because Killzone games are awesome, that's the reason.

New ip after 3'rd horizon please 🙏

Give it to Bungie. The Helghast are awesome enemies and Bungie could make something really cool

not enough interest to keep it alive

I’m beating a dead horse here… but Resisitance FOM gun lay out was so fun, multiplayer was one of my top favorite experiences. Insomniac nailed it and I would love a remaster and maybe a redo with Reisistance 2. They listens to players who were wanting a Halo killer and it kind of lost its character from the first.

Warhawk, if they had just remade the first one not Starhawk which offered nice things like the build and battle.. but Warhawk was the best arcade shooter I ever played. Back when you didn’t have battle passes and you actually had to get certain amount of kills or ribbons to unlock different paint skins on the Warhawks and armor for your player.. Look at the success of Helldivers 2, it’s a fun game and it reminds me of Warhawk in a way. I’ve been wanting a remake or sequel since the beginning of the ps4 gen.. it’s hurts to have hope nowadays. Even with the demise of the studios Sony has a steady fan base.

Killzone game after Killzone 2 play style would be nice

Motorstorm would be epic with the visual upgrade, maybe this game would be a harder sell with the genre being not as popular nowadays..

Resistance franchise, Motorstorm and Dirt 2 which was fun as heck. Add Dead Space 2 as well.

I quickly looked and only saw the words PS5 Remaster and a picture of Fall of Mans logo

Ahhhh shit, well maybe one day

Resistance 1-3 remastered with online

Kill zone 1-3 remastered with online

God of war PS3 games and PSP games collection

Infamous 1-2 with all dlc please we need this. It’s such an underrated franchise and so much potential. In this age of super hero media craze Sony should utilize infamous

White knight chronicles 1-2

Warhawk and starhawk

Motorstorm series

MGS4

Easy money would be to remake Resistance and Killzone series, rather than just a remaster. And PS5 desperately needs some couch co-op shooters so this would scratch that itch.

Infamous 1+2 and KZ 2+3

Deus Ex Human Revolution

GTA IV needs one.
Still stuck on PS3 and 360.

PS3 ended up been a beast of a console, slow out of the gate, picked up steam, smashed through the finish line. The 1st PS3 slim is still one of my favourite consoles. So solid, great games, by the time GTA5 and the last of us had come out it was a clear winner for me

Nice to see that they included Pupetteer in this list.

"PS3 may not have been the strongest generation"

Meanwhile...just looking at exclusives alone and not even third party titles

Uncharted was born
Demon's Souls was born
Metal Gear Solid 4
God of War 3
The Last of Us was born
Little Big Planet was born
Warhawk
Killzone 2 and 3
Infamous was born
Resistance was born
Motorstorm was born
Gran Turismo
Heavy Rain
Journey
Shadow of the Colossus returned paving the way for the remake in the PS4 generation
PS Plus was born

Sorry bud, but the PS3 generation was amazing and featured the greatest console comeback in history.

That said, I'd love it if Warhawk returned or Metal Gear Solid 4. It needs to not be shackled to the PS3 generation anymore. A Killzone 2 remake would be insane with modern graphics and that art direction.

I really miss this gen of gaming. It felt like the last truly "great" era for videogames before the modern approach really took hold.

The PS3 was such a glorious console. The UI, the games, the free online...just incredible.

Add Mag to that list.

I would pay good money for a Warhawk remake. Socom too. The last Socom game just didn’t do it justice. Folklore could use a remaster or remake as well.
Several other titles I would like to remade with the amount of visual fidelity the current gen has over the past consoles it could help articulate the games that we’ve loved growing up. I would love even some ps2 titles to remade.. Dark Cloud from ps2, Legacy of Kain series but don’t know what will come of it sense it was bought by Embracer group and all there layoffs.

This strategy is exactly what helped ruin Xbox. Sony more than Microsoft know when to let a franchise go and that is important to keep things fresh. The old games are there if you want to play them.

Resistance series and Killzone 2 & 3 remasters/remakes. Make it happen. They will print money.

FF13 is top of this list for me. No matter your opinion on it, it being the only numbered offline FF out of all 16 not to be on new consoles is odd. GTA IV would be great too

The only reason my PS3 is still connected is because of the Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm games that I still love to play. I am for remaking or remastering them.

Would absolutely love a remastered collection of the resistance games

Resistance 1-3 and Killzone 1-3 too. Folklore and 3 Dot Heroes are underrated gems.

Why remaster games that ps5 players can't access when you can remaster a 4 year old game like tlou2 that was already patched with ps5 improvements

Would love a remake of the first Resistance game and also Tools of Destruction.

A gem of a gen, imo! So much IP to pluck.

Infamous 1&2 will sadly always be ignored by Sony, not even a ps4 remaster the whole gen, smh but uncharted, horizon, even days gone had next gen upgrades sheesh 🤦🏽 mane even tho Sony is still doing pretty good in the console business they are a lil big headed lol, I never played the resistance series but it would of been dope to see those games updated as well, we fans get lil surprises here n there but things we really are into having and being vocal about gets passed over like a mf 🤣😩

Remasters are a waste of time and developer resources. Real Devs make new games.

God I would live a Killzone or Resistance collection. Really hoping for a new one in either franchise down the line, loved both series.

I’d say new sequels instead.

Got be resistance /prototype as well

How much prefer the killzone universe to that of Horizon's.

Killzone again pls 🥺

Gratz Guerilla, amazing Studio and engine, love Decima!

I was never a huge fan of Killzone, but thoroughly enjoy Horizon. Guerrilla are superb developer and easily up there with the best of the best.

Need a killzone 2 remake from the ground up.

One of the most creative studios out. I hope they keep it up.

Great studio, loved the Killzone series, I wish they would do a remake of the first three games. Horizon is a real step up and truly put Guerrilla Games on the map.

Too bad I never got a chance to play Shellshock: Nam’67 would have loved to try that game out back in the days to see what were their beginnings.

Bring back killzone (maybe in 3rd person perspective)

It would fantastic to see what they could do in Killzone after the lessons learned through Horizon.

Or heck, give us even a short linear FPS from the people who designed Cauldron THETA in the Burning Shores expansion. Even just flying into it (after gliding around and finding its opening amongst the lava and Sunwings perched around it, with other bigger machines just along the path toward it) was an incredible experience.

Great work until now. Keep on this path

Hope they get the opportunity to create a new IP this gen as well.

Forbidden West is awesome, It’s pretty damn big compared to Zero Dawn and it takes a little while to get your skills up and get the equipment you need to fully explore the game (not going to spoil it) but once you do those things and start fighting the big ass machines it really is amazing. Some cool side quests to where you hold the fate of peoples lives by your choice and the cauldrons look amazing. Lots of skills , combos, special moves and add ons for your weapons so you can approach fights many ways. Looking forward to the name game but I wonder how/if Silas will be a part of it or not ? Sad he’s gone.

Killzone games weren’t the best shooters but damn did they look purty!!!!

Killzone 2 remade with the multiplayer

20 years of mid-tier games and they are trending down.

I'm hyped for whenever Horizon 3 releases but Killzone 1 needs a remake BAD and 2 & 3 need remasters. Criminal those games are stuck on PS3.

Hold up

Horizon: Zero Dawn sold 24.3 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold 29.81 million

With the way journalists have been consistently saying BotW overshadowed Horizon you’d think the gap between an entry in a new IP and a longrunning one would be bigger Even if you want to include however much the Wii U version of BotW did, both series still did impressive numbers

I never want to hear that Horizon is an overlooked franchise ever again

i really loved the atmosphere and idea of killzone. i hope they revisit it at some point because it always had so much potential.

Bring Back Killzone please or at least a KZ2 remake with MP.