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Fallout creator Tim Cain is concerned about Fallout 5

Fallout creator Tim Cain has voiced concerns about Bethesda's current trajectory with the modern Fallout games, says he is worried about Fallout 5.

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shinoff21831052d ago

I think bethesada goes back to the way I was for fallout 5. Fallout 4 was an extremely fun game imo but it felt really dumbed down. Can't wait for 5

kythlyn1052d ago

At the rate Bethesda is publishing their main single player RPGs, Fallout 5 won't be out 'til 2033, and that's if we're lucky.

babadivad1051d ago

Same way I felt with Skyrim. Way too dumbed down. I knew they messed up when they made Death Claws fodder.

You kill a 15 foot Death Claw at level 3 in Fallout 4. They just made the most terrifying enemy a pushover.

Death Claws were properly terrifying in New Vega. Didn't matter what level you were on.

Deeeeznuuuts1051d ago

Totally agree, I was expecting to die and then perhaps a cut scene but nope

cammers19951052d ago

We need a new Vegas 2. Fallout under Bethesda just feels weird. 3, 4 and 76 follow their own east coast plot and feels out of place even all these years later. New Vegas was the last real fallout.

DarXyde1052d ago (Edited 1052d ago )

I think Bethesda misunderstood a lot of the original vision of Fallout (e.g., retrofuturism and the whole point behind bottle caps as currency). I'm not a fallout player, I just watched vids of the earlier games and the new ones in an attempt to get interested in it, so take my word with skepticism.

But yeah. They've made it into their own product now and it could just be that Cain would have done things differently. But it's not like they're pumping them out. You get one numbered game per generation, so I think it's fair to say there's going to be some thoughtfulness before you see Fallout 5. As long as there's no rush, which I think Starfield buys them a healthy amount of time.

VenomUK1052d ago

@DarXyde “I think Bethesda misunderstood a lot of the original vision of Fallout (e.g., retrofuturism and the whole point behind bottle caps as currency).” A genuine question, what was the original vision and point of retrofuturism?

I’ve played Fallout 3 & 4, and judging from the narrated intro “War… never ends” and multiple scorched copies of the book Paradise Lost, I thought the meaning is straight forward comment about humanity ruining the world - and some DLC messaging about how when people are united they can be a strong force for good.

The retrofuturism I took at face value as a stylistic choice that contrasts the gritty post-apocalyptic world with the cheery optimism of the fifties.

DarXyde1052d ago

VenomUK,

Sure, no worries. I'll try to explain what I mean. Retrofuturism would be like what we think the future would look like from today. Good example of that would be something like The Jetsons, where people in the past/present imagine what the future would be like (in that case, it was 2062 which was a century after the series premiered).

I had to double-check, but the first Fallout apparently took place in 2161, following a nuclear war in 2077. The way the world was actually seemed like "the future, according to someone in the 1950s". When Bethesda took over, this was continued, but it slowly integrated the 60s/70s aesthetics. It gets weird and confusing by the time you get to Fallout 76, which actually predates Fallout 1. For some reason, this game has a 70s aesthetic, despite being closer to the Great War... So... Did everything regress, or is Bethesda just moving forward in the decades with every iteration?

Maybe it's intentional, but it seems like they didn't really get it.

JackBNimble1051d ago

Vegas was the fallout that I just couldn't get into ... obviously that's just my opinion.

GhostScholar1052d ago

I’m so tired of hearing “make new Vegas 2”. Not every movie or game needs a sequel. Just do something new! Use creativity and not nostalgia for once.

OhReginald1052d ago

True, the vegas lore of the fallout universe has been explored. It's better to visit other cities.....like Chicago or Miami.

GhostScholar1052d ago (Edited 1052d ago )

I’d love New York City, London, or Tokyo. I doubt they’d leave the states though.

-Foxtrot1052d ago

When people say “New Vegas 2” they just mean a spiritual sequel

A new location…that’s all

GhostScholar1052d ago

I know a lot of people and have read articles about what the fans want it a lot of them really mean new Vegas 2 literally.

MontyeKristo1051d ago

Do they though? I'd still be okay with New Vegas 2 being in Vegas.. just be more in-depth, add the Grand Canyon, maybe even another nearby city.

k2d1050d ago (Edited 1050d ago )

It's just a monicker, instead of, say, Obsidian Fallout.

-Foxtrot1052d ago (Edited 1052d ago )

Yeah Bethesda have really started to simplify their RPG games

They took so much stuff out of Skyrim compared to Oblivion and Fallout 4 was so dumbed down compared to Fallout 3. I enjoyed them but you can’t deny that they want to become more accessible.

When I was younger I had to restart and go through the sewer tutorial level of Oblivion like 6 times or something because I never nailed down my character correctly. It took time but I got there and I learned from it.

Muadiib1052d ago

Agreed, loved Oblivion and FO3, found Skyrim and FO4 to be tedious. That's why I'm not allowing myself to get too excited for Starfield.

shinoff21831051d ago

Thas pretty much exactly what I was talking about. Fallout was pretty accessible to begin with well the bethesada ones, idk why they dumbed down 4 so much

mastershredder1052d ago

Yeah. Kinda moot eh? Maybe don’t sell your creations if want creative control.

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Fallout 5 Set to Begin Development and Starfield To Receive More DLC

Jez Corden has reported that Fallout 5 has been greenlit, and Starfield will be receiving new DLC in the near future.

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lockedongamer1308d ago

Ugh, enough Fallout. Focus on Elder Scrollls!

RaidenBlack307d ago

They ARE already focusing on ES6, bub.
FO5 comes after it ~2032+. (and the last mainline single-player i.e Fallout 4 was in 2015 i.e 10 years ago)
I am more interested in the rumored Fallout spinoff projects in development from other studios.

PrecursorOrb307d ago

Personally it would be cool to get a 3 remake but I mainly want new Vegas with the dlc’s

Ghostwood307d ago

Without Starfield we would probably have TESVI by now and Fallout 5 would be well into development.

*Sighs*

TheColbertinator307d ago

I speak on behalf of every human on this damn cursed planet to Bethesda : Focus on Elder Scrolls and Fallout only

Abear21307d ago

Fallout 5 should have been green lit 5 years ago, what are these fools doing?

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Bethesda Is Taking Playable Ghouls "Into Consideration" For Fallout 5

We all owe Fallout 76 an irradiated beer or two.

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-Foxtrot628d ago

Wouldn’t that change a lot gameplay wise

I mean it’s cool don’t get me wrong but what about Rad infested areas and the like, would Ghouls be able to walk through without a care in the world

Name Last Name628d ago

Basically starting with the rad perk. Just like Skyrim Lizards could breathe underwater.

Gameseeker_Frampt628d ago

I imagine it would be handled similar to the way vampirism is done in Skyrim. The downside of be able to walk through Rad infested areas without a care in the world would be the constant threat of becoming a feral ghoul.

anast628d ago

The games is going to be bad, like Starfield levels bad.

RaidenBlack628d ago

the game's not even in pre-production yet

anast628d ago

When I'm right, you can let me know.

Sciurus_vulgaris628d ago (Edited 628d ago )

I good see the following pros and cons of playing as a ghoul.
pros :
1. Regeneration
2. Radiation immunity

cons:
1. Low charisma and bartering
2. Some NPCs will shoot a ghoul on sight, thus altering guests.
3. Potentially become a glowing ghoul. You emit radiation that can harm your companions but you are empowered by radiation. NPCs that tolerant ghouls may now not tolerant you.

dmonee628d ago

Its about time. They let you choose different classes in elder scrolls, why not fallout?

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Fallout 5 -10 Ways It Should Improve on Fallout 4

It may be years away, but whenever it arrives, Fallout 5 needs to improve on its predecessor in several areas.

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-Foxtrot742d ago

They really need to get rid of weapon mods and bring back more unique weapons that are hard to get / find

anast741d ago

They won't improve it other than a slight graphical upgrade. They have always been better at live action than making games.

MocBistro741d ago

Only way it could improve is taking it away from Bethesda and regroup Classic Fallout (1&2) devs with decent budget and time to make it.

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