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How long can Microsoft float on goodwill?

As a pandemic-distorted market starts to return to normality, the need for Xbox to impress with game exclusives has become urgent.

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Obscure_Observer1125d ago

2023 already started amazingly for Xbox with Hi-Fi Rush.

Atomic Heart - Day One on Gamepass
S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 - Day One on Gamepass
Hollow Knight: Silksong - Day One on Gamepass
Minecraft Legends - Day One on Gamepass
Forza Motorsport - Day One on Gamepass
Redfall - Day One on Gamepass
Starfield - Day One on Gamepass

These are only some games for Xbox in 2023 from the top of my mind.

I doubt the competition to have such strong lineup of games to compare.

2023 will definitely be an awesome year for Xbox gamers.

Rocosaurus1125d ago

It is a strong lienup, and Hi Fi Rush is the best shadowdrop ever.

Orchard1125d ago

Shadow dropping that was a great idea, it gave the negative media and online communities no chance to dunk on it for weeks for "omg cartoon graphics!", "clearly made for gamepass" etc.

Instead, it was a great surprise for gamers, is being well received, and is performing well in sales, despite being on GamePass.

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Wintersun6161125d ago

Care to elaborate on this supposed hate campaign? I don't understand what it is you claim the media to have a bias against? Is it cartoon graphics or just anything else than massive AAA GotY contenders? There's a lot of great games with cartoon graphics out there, some of them AAA GotY contenders. @Orchard In the context you're creating, "Made for gamepass" sounds like cheap filler games to me.

S2Killinit1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

Shadow dropping allows for less expensive PR campaigns. Pay off the first couple of reviewers to make a big deal out of said game and other reviews will follow to catch up without knowing know about the game.

With normal game drops, if you dont allow reviews until drop date, it raises red flags. With “shadow drop” you are rewarded. Its a nice tactic.

Flewid6381124d ago

I tried it on GamePass PC last night. It was fun for 5 minutes but not something I could see myself investing time in.

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SoulWarrior1125d ago

'I doubt the competition to have such strong lineup of games to compare'

Well, considering 3, possibly 4 of those games you listed are multiplatform, not sure how you come to this conclusion, especially so early in the year.

SurgicalMenace1125d ago

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Obscure_Observer1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

@SoulWarrior

"Well, considering 3, possibly 4 of those games you listed are multiplatform, not sure how you come to this conclusion, especially so early in the year."

I said "from the top of mind". And yes, there´s some games that will be multiplatform. But none of those will be day and date on Nintendo or Sony´s services. And that´s a HUGE plus in Xbox´s gamers favor.

I forgot about:

Wo Long - Day One on Gamepass
Flintlock - Day One on Gamepass
Lies of P- Day One on Gamepass
Inkulinati - Day One on Gamepass
ARK 2 - Day One on Gamepass
The Last Case of Benedict Fox - Day One on Gamepass
Party Animals - Day One on Gamepass

Some games are exclusives, others not. But all of it will be Day One on Gamepass.

So my point stands:

I doubt the competition to have such strong lineup of games to compare.

2023 will definitely be an awesome year for Xbox gamers.

Outside_ofthe_Box1125d ago

^^^
So we're allowed to use games releasing on competing consoles to bolster lineups now? Guess every year is great year for everybody now. The big 3 will be happy to hear that they no longer need to release any games as long as we have 3rd parties to release games for them even though those games are also available elsewhere! Nice job Obscure!

andy851125d ago

Again because they are "free' and not free on PS doesn't make it any better. Plus we have no idea how the exclusives are actually going to score (look at Forspoken)

Chevalier1125d ago

SoulWarrior questions Obscure about strength of the line up when half the list are MP games then Obscure responds with more MP games on Gamepass. Pretty sure Obscure should remove Observer from the name because observant they are NOT. Absolutely idiotic. Spiderman 2 alone would destroy that whole list of games by itself and that's not including FF16, FF7 REBIRTH and a bunch of other 3rd party exclusives.

Crows901125d ago

Let them have their cookie it's just an illusion but they like it like that

SoulWarrior1125d ago

@obscure, ah I see, so goalposts move and they now I guess we call them 'service exclusive', I'm surpsied MS don't run with that to go with their usual 'console launch exclusive' line.

RedDevils1125d ago

I'm pretty sure Obscure fit better with Insecure name more. He sound very insecure everytime he post and act so defensive if someone disagree with his xbox fanboy view.

r2oB1124d ago

You have to give Microsoft massive credit, they successfully indoctrinated their gamers. No longer are the days of measuring success about the release of quality games. Now success is measured by how many games are released on a subscription service, regardless of quality and availability on other platforms. I guess when Microsoft seems adverse to making quality titles outside of Forza, what else can you do.

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darkrider1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

Everything you wrote was good until you had to talk about the competition...

Do you want that I write every exclusive already available and that millions can by? Because games from the launch are still being bought by gamers. The choice is huge. Because Sony exclusive got long legs.

One, 1.5 millions or more got the ps5 is just in december... And they buy games. Again buy.

Psvr2 is coming next month...

And of course that Sony is hyping psvr and not other games...

If half the rumors are true! For me, just one game. And the year is done. Nothing come close to that. Not even Spiderman 2

Lightning771125d ago

If you're into VR. The first PSVR had a low attach rate of 4 to 5%. Sold less than the Eye Toy. I'm telling you at 550$ only the hardcore will only get into it. It'll be fun but I can't see it taking off like a rocket just yet.

If we're being logical here.

fleshzombie1124d ago

@Lightning77

I am not hardcore and I have it preordered, I have never even used a VR system outside the star wars oculus game at an arcade.

PSVR2 is worth it to me for GT7 alone, and this is coming from someone who hasnt even played GT7 yet lol. I have it waiting for my PSVR2 to arrive so I can experience it with a wheel in VR. Any other games that end up being good experiences are just a bonus.

So there are definitely non hardcore gamers that will be picking this up

crazyCoconuts1125d ago

I'd leave the competition out of it... They seem to be doing just fine.
As long as Microsoft doesn't buy them too lol

Aloymetal1125d ago

''I doubt the competition to have such strong lineup of games to compare.''
The competition (if you insist in calling it that) does not need a strong lineup to compare, it just needs one! aka Spider man 2 which will wipe the floor with all those games you have posted.

DarXyde1124d ago (Edited 1124d ago )

If I'm being objective... Spider-Man 2 will very likely outsell all of those games. With Game Pass, that is much more likely. More people will probably play those other games, though. We really don't know what Sony is sitting on. They've been fairly quiet. It is always a bad idea to bet against PlayStation. Betting against Nintendo is also a terrible idea.

I do think the "competition" comment was a not-so-subtle "teehee, I'm clever", passive-aggressive remark I might expect from either an amateur troll or preteen. But... This is Obscure_Observer, so we get the sense that they're just feverishly delusional in their dismissal of what's on the other sides of their fence.

Frankly, I hope all of those games are good. Not because I care to play any of those games, but I need Sony to sweat a little bit. I don't want them getting too comfortable. I'm expecting delays, honestly. And don't forget that launching near Zelda is always a bad idea because that game is going to destroy (and will likely be the best selling game this year by a wide margin).

I have to say though...I find it really odd that the excitement coming from the Green Team seems to be more about XGP as a service than the games themselves.

And this is why Microsoft gets away with things. 🙂

jwillj2k41125d ago

It’s more rinse and repeat with you guys….

How about you wait for these games to come out before declaring victory yet again, and losing in such shameful ways yet again...

tagzskie1124d ago

ahahaha is the only thing i can reply with those list.. i dont get it, some xboys think sony and nintendo games are not great but have the nerve to list those kind of games

FinalFantasyFanatic1124d ago (Edited 1124d ago )

Xbox generally has a drought of games, we already know Sony and Nintendo will be stacked before the end of the year, it's rare that they aren't. Plus, half of those games aren't even exclusives, you can play most of them on the other consoles, and PC gets all of them (can't always say the same for alot of Nintendo/Sony exclusives). Didn't even know xbox was getting some of those games because I was looking at the Steam versions.

Pretty sure Sony/Nintendo will be fighting each other this year for best games lineup, again.

DarkZane1125d ago

"I doubt the competition to have such strong lineup of games to compare."

LMAO, between Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft, Microsoft are the ones with by far the weakest lineup for 2023. At least 3 of the games you named are multiplatforms. The others, you don't need to buy a Xbox, you can just play on PC.

SurgicalMenace1125d ago

The real question is: If you were required to actually buy those games, would you still be so excited for their release?

Petebloodyonion1125d ago

Does it matter what the competition has to offer?
Will my enjoyment of what I can play on Xbox increase if PS5 releases 3 games instead of 5?
And vice versa, will my enjoyment of HI-fI rush diminish if the game gets a release on Switch or PlayStation?

RedDevils1125d ago

No because I can play without an Xbox.

CBaoth1124d ago

you're actually happy that MS has its AAA devs making indie games? Really? A trillion dollar publisher....must be that IndiePass effect. I wonder if MS is gonna release a sequel to that Burger King game on the 360 next!

S2Killinit1124d ago

For the people rooting for MS to buy multiplatform publishers, yes, yes it does.

Petebloodyonion1124d ago

@RedDevils
Why bother commenting on an Xbox article if you don't play on Xbox?

@ Cbaoth
I feel sad for you if your level of enjoyment for a game depends on the budget size, the studio behind it or if it's exclusive to a platform.
And you're right it must be the indie pass effect that makes Hi-Fi Rush one of the best-selling games on Steam atm with a 98% positive review
https://store.steampowered....

@S2Killinit
Well, I feel sad for the person rooting for that if the goal is to prevent others from playing the game (and that includes companies signing an exclusivity agreement just to prevent certain games from appearing on others' platforms).

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parkesy781125d ago

You do know most of the games you named there are also on PS5 ,and out of the 3 that are not only Forza would appeal to the average consumer

tay87011125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

Much stronger yr for MS than last yr was, but sony is likely going to have the best yr for games once again. In addition to all the multiplat games you listed, Sony has some spectacular exclusives dropping. Spiderman 2, FF16 and FF7 rebirth are all coming exclusively to ps5. We also get HFW burning shores exclusive to ps5. Other games that don't have an official release window but will likely hit this yr are: last of us online, silent 2 hill remake, helldivers 2. Sony has a lot unanounced games they are keeping under tight wraps. Rumor keep popping up we will be getting remakes of metal gear solid and MGS 3. A couple of indies i am looking forward to this yr are season and tchia. Also psvr 2 is coming out next month, which will have over 30 launch titles. I think all 3 consoles are going to have a great yr, but PS has true exclusives you can't play anywhere else.

gold_drake1125d ago

damn, all i see is "day one on gamepass"

the "competition", has the new Zelda, 2 new final fantasy, Stellar Blade, the new Spiderman.

since you started the conversation of the competition, it will stomp Microsoft, in comparison of lineups of course.

TheTony3161125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

Forza Motorsport - Day One on Gamepass
Redfall - Day One on Gamepass
Starfield - Day One on Gamepass
Atomic Heart - Day One on Gamepass
S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 - Day One on Gamepass
Hollow Knight: Silksong - Day One on Gamepass
Minecraft Legends - Day One on Gamepass
Wo Long - Day One on Gamepass
Flintlock - Day One on Gamepass
Lies of P- Day One on Gamepass
Inkulinati - Day One on Gamepass
ARK 2 - Day One on Gamepass
The Last Case of Benedict Fox - Day One on Gamepass
Party Animals - Day One on Gamepass

"I doubt the competition to have such strong lineup of games to compare."

What strong lineup? 80% of those are multiplats.

And why even bring "the competition" into this? Said competition has been kicking Microsofts a** for over a decade now. Even longer if we include the 6th gen.

Reddrover21u1124d ago

Isn't it funny how they always like to throw out "Day one on Gamepass" like it makes a difference?

Gamepass is not a winning strategy as Xbox fans keep thinking it is and hasn't been since it was announced. Xbox dropped the price on the S and still got bodied by Nintendo and Sony.

Gamepass is nice but it does not sell consoles.

neutralgamer19921125d ago

Hopefully all these games are awesome and here is hoping competition brings it's A game too. During Xbox 360-ps3 days that's what made it so special. We should hope of healthy competition where neither have vast majority market share and have to earn our business

Vengeance11381125d ago

Ummmm Spiderman 2 legitimately demolishes atleast 50% of that list solo. Then we have FF16 which smashes the other 50%

GG

Obscure_Observer1125d ago

"Ummmm Spiderman 2 legitimately demolishes atleast 50% of that list solo."

Spiderman 2 will be nothing but another glorified DLC that Sony will shove down your throat as a fully fledged game at full price, just like they did with Miles Morales. Lol.

What? Are you really expecting a game developed in less than 3 years after Miles Morales to be something fresh and unique? A true next gen game? Wake up! It´s gonna be the same old PS4 engine, same old environments, assets, moves and animations.

It´s gonna be successful? Of course it will, it´s Spiderman after all. Marvel´s biggest franchise and superhero. But in the end, it´s gonna be more of the same and not gonna "destroy" other games.

"Then we have FF16 which smashes the other 50%"

Good luck to SquareEnix if they´re thinking to launch FFXVI anytime near Starfield. XD

SoulWarrior1125d ago

@obscure

'Spiderman 2 will be nothing but another glorified DLC that Sony will shove down your throat as a fully fledged game at full price, just like they did with Miles Morales. Lol.'

You say this when the 50th Forza game is releasing this year which I'm sure you'll hype the heavens.

What a load of baseless delusional assumptions about a game they haven't fully shown off yet, didn't SM1 sell over 20 million copies? Better than measuring success by miles driven or number of practically free copies given away.

TheTony3161124d ago (Edited 1124d ago )

@Obscure

"Spiderman 2 will be nothing but another glorified DLC that Sony will shove down your throat as a fully fledged game at full price, just like they did with Miles Morales. Lol."

That's a great description of the new Forza game.

FinalFantasyFanatic1124d ago

@Obscure_Observer,

I know SE as a company is a shadow of it's former self and has somewhat fallen to s**t, but let's not joke that Starfield is in the same league as FF16 or that's it's even competition for that game. FF will sell gangbusters regardless of it's quality, can't see Starfield faring well against that behemoth.

Obscure_Observer1124d ago

@SoulWarrior

"You say this when the 50th Forza game is releasing this year which I'm sure you'll hype the heavens."

The last Forza Motorsport game was released in 2017.

The new Forza Motorsport has been development using a new engine specifically for next generation consoles. It´s gonna be a true current gen game. Don´t take my word for it. Just wait for DF analisys.

"What a load of baseless delusional assumptions about a game they haven't fully shown off yet, didn't SM1 sell over 20 million copies?"

It´s not baseless dude, it´s a fact. Old engine, old everything. PS fans can be mad at me as a spoiled child but you can´t hide from the truth.

Sony made fools out a lot people who fell for that "We believe in generations" rhetorical bs from Jim Ryan.

Spiderman 2, same old proprietary, The Insomniac Engine
New Factions, same old proprietary, ND engine
Death Stranding 2, same old proprietary, Decima engine.
Next Unannounced Bend game, True Next gen game powered by UE5.

You can´t squeeze out a true next gen game out of old technology. You need to find some way and deal with the hard cold truth.

@FinalFantasyFanatic

"FF will sell gangbusters regardless of it's quality, can't see Starfield faring well against that behemoth."

I have no doubt that FFXVI is gonna sell like hot cake, don´t get me wrong, but there´s some factors to consider.

Bethesda has HUGE fan base that will be there for Starfield day one, unless the game turn out to be total crap. (which is not impossible)

Starfiled will be available on both Xbox Series consoles and PC, while FFXVI will be only available on PS5 consoles. Which one will reach more gamers? Which one has more chances to be popular in that context?

Fallout 4 sold about 13 million copies across multiple platforms while FFXV sold about 10 million copies across multiple platforms.

There´s the Gamepass factor yes, which could potentially "steal" many sales from Starfied. But that remains to be seen.

After Forspoken, I think SquareEnix will keep a closer eye at Starfield and they shouldn´t announce an official release date before Starfield´s own event, so they can measure the hype. That´s strategy. Not weakness.

SoulWarrior1124d ago

@obscure so now you're talking about engines? How is an engine relevant here? Any engines used by sony studios clearly hasn't had any impact on any games graphical quality and success.

So while you're baselessly bashing spiderman and conveniently ignoring that there having been 4 forza games since 2017, with another on the way, I'll be enjoying Playstation output here and seeing the success of these titles and you'll be celebrating how many miles were driven.

You talk of spoilt children but you're one of the most immature fanboys on this site lmao, pot calling kettle black. I mean just look at basically all your comments, nonsensical, false fanboy garbage with downvote ratios that rivals orchard lol.

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Traecy1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

Renting multiplats on GP isn't a start. Releasing consistently AAA first party exclusives is a great start.

SurgicalMenace1124d ago

Do tell them anything. They're like children who need their parents to buy their games for them. As long as they get to play, who cares who covers the cost? It's a dead argument. Just let them pretend to be contributors, that they are ready to sit at the big table, and that Santa doesn't traffic "little helpers" internationally.

ChiefofLoliPolice1124d ago (Edited 1124d ago )

No one cares much for Gamepass according to how much money Xbox is losing. Plus Xbox no longer has exclusives and of course these games will be best played on PC anyway.

Also "I doubt the competition to have such strong lineup of games to compare".

Uhh...Making alot of assumptions here...

Plus we are more then two years in and Sony has already had MUCH stronger lineup then anything MS has had to offer yet this gen.

Godmars2901124d ago

And still the issue with Gamepass:

Several major titles available day one via a subscription service is not the same as those titles selling well on their own. "Profit" for each equates to what portion of subscription "pie" MS deems to dole out which MS hopes to only expand as subscribers are attracted to those titles. Thing is by their own admission the number of subscribers is leveling out.

Gamepass, like other streaming services, is not a viable.

There will never be enough subscribers to justify it, they will become fixed, and then something is going to give. Be it raised sub prices, lower quality of games or MS dropping it like Google dropped Stadia if not all of the above.

Saying its "great for gamers" now just ignores what's coming later. And it wont be great.

DRambo1124d ago

Do you have 'Day One on Gamepass' programmed into a key, or do you have to type it out every time?

FinalFantasyFanatic1124d ago

It's definitely a macro, alongside "wait for E3" and several others.

nitroxhotshot1124d ago

If you think that’s a strong line up, there is no hope. Seriously don’t know how anyone can defend MS for their lacklustre effort on exclusives.

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Sonic18811124d ago (Edited 1124d ago )

It takes more than one good game to float on goodwill 🙄 Microsoft needs to be consistent for the next decade

Vengeance11381124d ago

Lmao Forza ? Talk about rushed DLC! haha just more of the same old content everyone has seen before. Using the same old Xbone engine and assets!
Yawwwwwn MS can't afford good games.

Jrpg_Gamer1124d ago

Im going to buy half of these on ps5, increasing lists with multiplatform games? You seem desperate

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Flewid6381124d ago

Yet the competition is still outselling Xbox. I'm not saying you cant prefer what Xbox is offering, but clearly that's not what the general consensus is interested in.

XBManiac1124d ago

It is good to have a laptop capable of gaming with all those titles and also connect it flawlessly to a 120Hz TV. Good times to be a games player.

Psychonaut851124d ago

Your thumbs must hurt from writing “day one on game pass so many times”.

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jonny8971125d ago

They can float on dollar bills dude, they are freaking Microsoft.

TheEnigma3131125d ago

But no company likes to lose money over ego.

FinalFantasyFanatic1124d ago

Pretty sure the strategy is to burn money until they wipe out the competition if they can manage it.

crazyCoconuts1125d ago

Especially when the dollar bills are....INFLATED!!
LOLOLOL LOL 😉

MrBeatdown1125d ago

All floaters sink eventually.

-Foxtrot1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

Long as possible clearly

They shadow dropped a decent game and suddenly everything has been reset. Die hard fans eat it up and come out the woodwork to use it as an example that they “are back”. Case and point, the first comment 🤷🏻‍♂️

That’s why MS never learn because they know they can get away with it.

shinoff21831125d ago

I think that that's the biggest issue. On ps we've been getting games so if Sony doesn't have as many this year as ms so be it. It isn't the end of the world cause again we've been getting games and not on a multi year drought.

crazyCoconuts1125d ago

The market is rewarding the winners... We know who's been winning, no debate there..
So why not make this interesting and just judge this year as a whole. I'd include new hardware like VR in the mix because it's still Playstation. So far, a nice start for MS with Hi-Fi. Let's see what's next.

CBaoth1124d ago

because you can't ignore history Coco. Or you're doomed to repeat it. Like MS over and over the past decade - since 2012. I have no qualms about judging each platform based on its 2023 merits but it'll be this time next year. I mean even if we score each publisher based on its last product released it's GOWR vs. Hi-Fi.

See that list above? I betcha several won't even release in 2023. Trying to declare a winner for alleged 3rd party 2023 releases seems absurd and a folly of the ignorant.

Chevalier1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

It's like giving a dehydrated person coming out of a desert a cup of water. So delusional about the state of things the bar is literally below the floor is so low it can be stepped over. If this recent Xbox show was a Playstation State of Play or Nintendo Direct let's be honest it would have been absolutely trashed for being so mediocre. But when you're thirsty that mediocrity starts to look like a Oasis in the desert. This isn't year 1 it's year 3 since launch and if you include Xbox One I would say it's more like 6-7 years that the bar dropped lower and lower to the point people would settle for having anything.

Crows901125d ago

They had no other exclusive to play in a long time that wasn't super niche

Reddrover21u1124d ago

Basically. At this point the standard for MS is so far behind Sony and Nintendo just putting out a game put them in their fans good will.

Sony and Nintendo don't get that leeway because they been running high standards for years now.

It's kinda like calling the big three restaurant where Sony and Nintendo have been open and successful for years so they have a high standard to hit while MS had to shut down for rats and mold and the fact they even opened up again is enough for most people.

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Orchard1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

Microsoft has had a rough few first years of the Xbox Series for sure - but in 2023 they're lined up a lot better than PS thus far.

I'm more concerned about the fact we're only getting FF16 and SM2 on PS this year (so far), and we already know Forspoken was a flop. Heck, it's not even been out a week and it's already on sale.

Orchard1125d ago

I deal in facts, not hope.

Aloymetal1125d ago

Is not even hope but delusions and dreams.

SurgicalMenace1125d ago

What facts do you have, Orchard? Do you know everything going on with Sony? Absolutely NOT. Where is Forspoken on sale? Flop? Because you and your small circle of influence didn't buy it?

Orchard1125d ago

@Surgical I have the exact same facts as you - the known list of confirmed 2023 games for Playstation and Xbox.

It's on sale on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Fors...

$10 off.

Nyxus1125d ago

@ Orchard: okay so Forspoken is $10 dollars off on Amazon so it's a flop. What do you think about the Series S which has been on sale since... its release almost?

Outside_ofthe_Box1125d ago

@Nyxus

You are not allowed to use his logic against him!

crazyCoconuts1125d ago

If the price of a game is indicative of it's value, then even with the sale, Forespoken is worth 2x Hi-Fi Rush, so ...winning... 😉

FinalFantasyFanatic1124d ago (Edited 1124d ago )

Does it matter if Forspoken is a flop? Sony still has tons of exclusive games, most of which are bangers and not flops, I don't think one flop out of 10 is hurting them (at least they're not having multiple flops).

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Outside_ofthe_Box1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

"Microsoft has had a rough few first years of the Xbox Series for sure - but in 2023 they're lined up a lot better than PS thus far."

You never said Microsoft was having a "rough" few years until this year. Instead made excuse after excuse while also downplaying PS offering by either saying that they were delayed from their initial release announcement or how certain titles had delay "written all over it" or how the best game on PS was "made" by Microsoft, etc. Now suddenly you're willing to admit that the past couple of years weren't Microsoft's best... interesting.

"I'm more concerned about the fact we're only getting FF16 and SM2 on PS this year (so far)"

Why are you concerned? You certainly didn't seem too concerned about Microsoft's output last year and shouldn't be concerned about Sony's this year either especially given their track record. Also why can't Sony be allowed to have a rough year or two too?

SoulWarrior1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

'only FF16 and SM2'

Ah yes, 2 very small games compared to the juggernauts of Redfall and Starfield. Even if it remains at 'only' those 2 releaes, that's 2 pretty big hitters.

TheTony3161125d ago

Well, obviously. Niche-man 2 can't compare to juggernauts like Forza and unproven IP's like Redfall . /sarcasm

SurgicalMenace1125d ago

This dude just linked the game on "sale" for 69.88. It's about time to tap out, my guy. 🤣

Orchard1125d ago

@Surgical No need for you to lie - it's right there in black and white.

On the product page: https://i.imgur.com/NnqmifO...
In the cart: https://i.imgur.com/2JqpjOj...

Also on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Wario64...

Can't dispute what is clearly there in black and white 🤷

lodossrage1125d ago

@Orchard

Are you serious?

If it was an official sale, it wouldn't use a coupon code. It would just be listed at a sale price without a code needed to be clicked on.

And why are people even bringing Playstation into this anyway? Or do we do things like that when we feel it's "convenient"?

Orchard1125d ago

@lodossrage A discount that only applies to Forspoken... right.

Funny how Dead Space isn't on sale.

SurgicalMenace1125d ago

Okay, fellas, place it in your cart, and you'll find that either you use the discount towards Prime or pay 5.99 for shipping, making the total 70.19. Well, I guess that $4 will make all the difference, huh? Good looking out Orchard.🤣

Orchard1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

@Surgical Still spreading misinformation I see.

You only need Prime or $5.99 for shipping if you want express shipping - they have free delivery options available without Prime.

I don't have prime, and can get free shipping, so yes, the game costs $59.99 (~$10 off):

https://i.imgur.com/hEEXmUj...

Even if there were shipping costs, it would still be a $10 discount because those same shipping costs would apply if the game was at $70.

Why even bother trying to spread misinformation that is so easily proved wrong... Next you'll be trying to tell us it's not a $10 discount because sales tax still applies 😂🤣

@lodossrage What you're referring to was a program that Amazon ran for Prime members up until 2019 that gave discounts on pre-order and newly released games. That program no longer exists (plus, from what we can see above, I am not even a Prime member). Similarly... none of the other new releases that just came out are $10 off, go check Dead Space for example.

I mentioned a PS game because we're comparing the current and near-future state of the industry. If you don't like the topic at hand, you're not obligated to read nor reply to my comments 🤷

lodossrage1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

@Orchard

And???

That proves nothing. When Uncharted 4 first came out, Amazon allowed people to do that same thing and get $10 off. I know that for a fact because that's how I bought it.

Still doesn't explain why you bought up a Playstation game in an xbox article.

lodossrage1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

@Orchard

"@lodossrage What you're referring to was a program that Amazon ran for Prime members up until 2019 that gave discounts on pre-order and newly released games."

Then explain why the same thing happened with Ratchet and Clank rift Apart

And it has nothing to do with "liking or disliking" your comment. Just an obersvation

FinalFantasyFanatic1124d ago

Come to think of it, don't most store fronts often have specials or sale on brand new games? I don't see why this should factor into his argument (even though I don't think Forspoken is a good game, nor would I get excited about $10 off or a 5/10% on release discount).

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purple1011125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

Plus a few psvr games. (Wel 30 but only a couple big ones). Plus they may have twisted metal ready for Xmas.

Plus technically you've had last of us part 1 remake this year. And may see the multiplayer segment drop for Xmas time too.

Never know what Sony has up their sleeves.

TheTony3161125d ago

This reads like a post from mid 2020 when Sony only had Godfall and Microsoft had this incredible launch line up consisting of Halo Infinite, Forza 8 and Hellblade 2

We all know how that turned out, lol.

Besides, Spiderman 2 and FF16 are already much bigger than Forza and Redfall. Microsofts only hope is Starfield.

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Crows901125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

What the heck is up with Xbox fans constantly including 3rd party games in lists.

But glad you finally accept that the Xbox has been struggling but I might add...since after halfway through the 360

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z2g1125d ago

uhhh 2023 is actually looking pretty darn good from a release perspective imo. even the latest developer_direct was more than expected IMO. gamepass is getting some great day one releases - releases that aren't even MS studio games.. like Atomic Heart, Persona 3,4,5, High Fi Rush, Monster Hunter: Rise etc. Redfall is out in a couple of months, Forza Motorsport looks incredible and yes - visually more impresive than Gran Turismo 7 (and i own and love GT7).

I actually feel like MS is coming into the best position they have been in for years and that things are finally starting to turn around from a game release standpoint.

shinoff21831125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

Finally after 20 years just maybe.

Aloymetal1125d ago

Hey, don't be harsh... They need more time, trillions in the bank and 20 yrs+ in the market is not enough...

crazyCoconuts1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

I think it's got to turn around at this point. I feel like the Netflix effect of subscriber growth offsetting unfettered spending has become a thing of the past. If that's true, Xbox will be expected to show offsetting increases in GamePass revenue for the games they're giving away. If lots more people don't sub full price, then they'll have to raise the price. To make matters worse, all those exclusives are forgoing potential revenue from Playstation users, which is a pretty big chunk. I think they either have to make the market move towards them or dramatically change their strategy.
But what do I know, I've been wrong before. I never expected Epic to be still giving us great games for free after all this time for example...

FinalFantasyFanatic1124d ago

I don't know about this, if I had to pick anytime to own an Xbox, it was the 360 days, and I did buy one at that time for the exclusives.

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Gamesbeat caught up with Blackley to extract some wisdom about Microsoft’s journey in games, what he thinks Sharma should do, and where gaming can go next. Part of his message is hopeful, but Blackley sees a lot of peril on the road that Microsoft is following. And it makes him worry about the future of gaming.

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piroh1d 4h ago

"I expect that the new CEO, Asha Sharma, her job is going to be as a palliative care doctor who slides Xbox gently into the night."

LOL

Anyway, let's wait and see maybe Mia Khalifa will surprise us.

rlow11d 2h ago

I’m on the fence about her. I’ll give her chance, but if she is there to finish things off. Well what can you do.

Abnor_Mal23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

After seeing the article of the possible sunsetting of Xbox as said by Seamus Blackley I believe, I went onto X because of a post I saw. It was a gif of Vegeta powering up, the poster commented as Vegeta yelling “Don’t take my fiercest competitor away from me.” Standing there in his blue Sayian/Freiza corps outfit. So it got me to thinking, so let me ask a question to N4G.

If Vegeta is PlayStation, who would Xbox and Nintendo be in the Dragon Ball universe?

Who would be Master Roshi?

I have my own opinion of course, I just want to see what others think.

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jim65richards1d 20h ago

Ubisoft’s Vantage Studios strengthens Assassin’s Creed’s future with three veteran leaders at the helm https://www.everfi.com.co

Redgrave1d 10h ago

And nothing of value will be gained, because Ubisoft will only Ubisoft themselves in the end.

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WICKED_Wildcard2d ago

Isn't he the guy who greenlit Anthem?