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Evil Controllers Boss on Why They Think Sony Didn't Include PS5 Controller Back Buttons by Default

Gaming peripheral makers Evil Controller's CEO states why he doesn't think Sony included PS5 controller back buttons by default

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RazzerRedux1831d ago

"Coe might have a point, as making the DualSense feature back buttons by default might have driven the overall cost for the controller (and the console itself) a bit higher, which Sony doesn’t want to do. Of course, there is the high probability that Sony will want to sell a DualSense back button attachment in the future, which means more revenue for the company."

That it would drive costs up is a given and so to keep it priced competitively Sony would have to have dropped features such as haptic feedback. I'm hoping they do offer the back button option as I really like them on my Elite Series 2, but an add-on is preferable, in my opinion, than losing haptics.

excaliburps1831d ago

Yep, same. I honestly thought they would be default this gen. That said, Sony would jeopardize a lot of third-party controller makers if they did it, but you just know they are releasing a back button attachment to this thing, so I guess it's just a matter of when?

Third-party controllers offer better triggers for shooters and other stuff too aside from back buttons. I can't play shooters without back buttons (and no, it's not cheating).

RazzerRedux1831d ago

I love them primarily because I've always found R3 and L3 to be awkward to press. Making the controller better isn't cheating any more than a gaming keyboard with macros or a mouse with additional buttons. Just tools of the trade, so to speak.

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excaliburps1831d ago

You have no idea how many people see back buttons and paddles as "cheats." Even if you explain that Sony and MS allow them and they are not banned in tournament play, some people will still say you are cheating...

Highrevz1831d ago

The ones that support mods, they are cheating.
Just having the extra buttons it’s fine

Teflon021831d ago

Well it's cheating if it's not a official attachment. Once it is, it's not cheating. In DS4 and Xbox control they're not anymore. In the PS360 era you could argue it is as it was never part of Sony or MS control design and you're creating controller shortcuts.
Either way.

Wanted to say, I think the only reason they really didn't attach it by default is simply 1 reason. They're support to be extra programmable buttons. If they just attach it, devs may use em as regular buttons defeating the purpose of adding the buttons in the first place. Making it optional means devs can't touch and modify use outside it's intent. Like how the elite controls don't become the default controller. If it did. The back buttons would likely become dev programmable. which isn't necessarily bad. But the point was to personalize buttons

Muzikguy1831d ago

@Teflon

That's a very interesting point. I can definitely see that as being a reason

badz1491831d ago

why would the back button attachment drive the cost up? the one Sony release for the PS4 was good but a bit pricey. I bought a 3rd party back button attachments for 2 of my DS4 and they work just fine IMO and they cost like $6 - $7 each.

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RazzerRedux1831d ago

Of course it would drive up the price. How would it not? Even if it was $6 or $7 more like that cheapo thing you posted, that is still adding to the price.

Silly question, dude.

badz1491831d ago

@Razzer

what I'm saying is, if I can buy 1 or 2 of them for $7, buying in bulk would mean that it would be much much cheaper to almost negligible in the grand scheme of things.

RazzerRedux1831d ago

Negligible? Come on. Think about this. Even if you are only add $5 worth of components to the controller you've got to multiply that by the number sold. PS5 has already sold 5 million units. So just the controller in the box would have cost an additional $25 million for Sony if they kept the price the same. And Sony is already selling PS5 at a loss. That is not negligible.

chiefJohn1171831d ago

Not related but I just found out RDR2 dead body's decay and vultures will come pick it clean. Game of the gen!!! It's so freak real.

Nitrowolf21831d ago

haha, was that excited you didn't care where you said it!

chiefJohn1171830d ago

Lol there's just so much to discover about the game it's mind blowing. Easily the most realistic game to date

RazzerRedux1831d ago (Edited 1831d ago )

Decaying bodies that vultures eat. Wow.....if only that realism made up for the horrible gameplay and controls.

But glad you enjoyed it. No idea why you felt you needed to share this in an article about Sony's......oh wait.....nevermind. I get it now. lol

chiefJohn1171830d ago (Edited 1830d ago )

If you suck at the game just say that
Ah forgot you was on the Sony defense force committee. Not sure why you think this somehow an attack on Sony when it's non related lol Shouldve posted this on an Xbox topic Xbox fanboys not as weird as you guys but I literally just seen it as I read this.

RazzerRedux1830d ago (Edited 1830d ago )

What is there to suck at in RDR2? The gameplay is about as shallow as it comes. Point....shoot. Good thing too since the controls are crap. No, the only thing that killed me in RDR2 was sheer boredom.

You are just trolling Sony articles like you always do, but you really think your posting of silly off-topic nonsense is going to be well-received anywhere on n4g? Uh...yeah, good luck with that. Yeah, you'd probably get less downvotes from your fellow Xbox fanboys, but still you are just making yourself look stupid.

chiefJohn1171830d ago

Uh it's a wild west game wtf you expect the gameplay to be sides shooting? Which you clearly aren't good at. Yet somehow find a point and shoot game like tlous to be a game of gen contender lol. Only person that look silly here is you

RazzerRedux1830d ago (Edited 1830d ago )

"Yet somehow find a point and shoot game like tlous to be a game of gen contender lol."

LOL. Yep, there it is. I knew that was why you were here trolling. You are so damned butthurt that Sony has so many games that could contend for GOTG that you've got to search out Sony articles to promote RDR2 as GOTG. You need to work on your trolling game. It has gotten stale and predictable.

I'm just going to laugh off the idiotic description of TLOU as a "point and shoot" game. Play the game, Einstein, and then you will realize how stupid that truly is and you'll have a better understanding of a game that expands beyond just being a mindless shooter.

I'll let you continue your silly trolling now. Your knowledge of gaming this past gen is shit. You are not qualified to even have a vote on GOTG. Your only demonstrable qualification is trolling. see ya, "chief"

chiefJohn1171828d ago

Lol someone in theit feelings. Just calling out your hypocrisy for dissing RDR2. It's an amazing game nuff said, feel how you wanna feel

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masterfox1831d ago

uhmm because higher costs for Sony maybe ?, also even thou some say is a great addition to the controller on the dualshock, honestly I don't want more damn buttons on the controller.

Nitrowolf21831d ago

i think its more of people expecting them to go that route versus Haptic. It would have been cheaper, but i'm glad we got the latter. And yeah, that's basically the reason, they're more for competitive so why offer it by default versus something that will be used everywhere

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gamesftw2501831d ago

Just means the back button isn't for you which is fine. But it definitely draws a fine line if it should even be allowed or not.

2moda5gamer1831d ago

I feel like if there was back buttons then it would make devs use those instead of the touch pad. This could be better or worse (fps games of course would love it), but I feel the touch pad is fine enough for most single player games. Touch's also a shit ton more dynamic even though barely anyone pushes to use it in such a way.

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fr0sty33m ago

Nintendo's biggest mistake was turning Sony down... the two of them together would have been a completely unstoppable force in the industry. Now they compete.

Neonridr22m ago

it would have been a very different landscape I think if those two had partnered. Who knows what the gaming world would look like. One of those "if I had a crystal ball" scenario to see what could have been.

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Report: Sony Is Turning Its Back on Porting PlayStation Games to PC

Sony is said to be pulling back on releasing PlayStation games on PC, and this starts with Ghost of Yotei and Saros.

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Elda1d 23h ago

If true then the PC elitists will no longer be saying..."I'll wait to play it on PC where it'll play best" I'm guessing the money Sony spends porting & profiting from PC isn't worth it. Making PS first party solely exclusive again to their consoles will make their consoles more relevant to buy especially if their output of first party titles are good.

Outside_ofthe_Box1d 22h ago

A certain spamtastic account will not be pleased if this is true.

This is another basic logic scenario. We've seen both extremes playing out right now. Would you rather be in Xbox's or Nintendo's position right now? Sony already had a working formula, stick to it.

fr0sty1d 17h ago

Sony released games on PC to try to make a few extra bucks... Valve (and possibly MS, if the new Xbox ever sees the light of day) attempted to use this to allow you to play PlayStation games on other consoles, so instead of making Sony a few extra bucks, it's now costing them good money... so this only makes sense.

CrashMania1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

All those players who claim they were happy to wait an eternity for every game, will now suddenly be saying all those games are/will be crap and they were never interested.

Elda1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Of course they will...lol. It looks like they'll never get to play PS exclusive games or they'll give in & buy a PS.

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CrashMania1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Sure, keep coping obscure, suddenly Jason Schrier is super unreliable too I guess? lmao.

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Dexterio1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

True. Haha.
Oh! And look, the obscure dude with his zillionth sock account commented below as expected LMAO!

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babadivad1d 14h ago

Believe it or not, some people will just never play Playstation games if the don't come to PC. They're completely fine with that.

InUrFoxHole1d 10h ago

Sounds like you're letting a small section of gamers fuel your fanboy war. Good luck with that 👏

-Foxtrot1d 3h ago

They are already doing this on some of the subreddits. Now they either never cared for their games or calling Sony selfish. However no one bats an eyelid at Nintendo sticking to console exclusive since forever

Neonridr1d 2h ago

much like every MS released game when they eventually come to PS5 and somehow are magically good (Forza Horizon 5, Indiana Jones, Avowed, etc)

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Inverno1d 17h ago

More like people were realizing what wasn't worth it was buying a PS5 to play games that eventually came to another platform. The constant excuses the entire gen to try to lessen the butt hurt y'all were feeling. Let's be for real here ladies and gents y'all were bothered by the fact most of these games were making their way to PC and judging by the replies y'all STILL butthurt. Trying to make it sound like waiting 6 months to a year was the worst thing when most people don't care cause why should they? Who's in a rush to play mostly SP games when they know they can play it on the platform they prefer? How exactly does it hurt y'all personally? Besides getting your pride hurt cause SONY making you look childish for being so loyal to a brand?

If they're pulling support it's because they know that long term they can't convince people to buy a PS if they can get their games on PC. It's that simple. You really think having an extra platform to gain more profit from somehow hurts them financially? Nah, it's cause they can't convince people to throw another 600-700 bucks at new hardware when their current console gen has barely been taken full advantage of. All the conveniences of a console are on PC now, and you aren't locked into a cycle where the hardware you buy becomes obsolete every 6 years. And the new hardware you buy receives games that are built off software made for the gen before.

Of course people rather buy these games on PC if they already own a PC, makes no sense at all to invest in a console if this continues. And it will infact continue if dev cycles keep taking most of the gen to complete development.

Dexterio1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

@Inverno
"All the conveniences of a console are on PC now."
Including piracy, hackers and cheaters? hmmm...

"Of course people rather buy these games on PC"
Yeah, digital only lol. People buy physicals on consoles, which you rarely have on PC.

You PC guys are really something. Being snobs for no reason at all lol.

derek1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

@Inverno, that was long tearful rant, you feel better now? Lol. Nobody cares about the pc gaming community the orphans of the gaming industry. Even Nvidia has abandoned you, lol. Now go play "pizza making express" on your $10,000 rig, nobody cares pc gamer.

Elda1d 10h ago

It's working for PS seeing their console has been selling fabulously lately. If this is" true" it's evident Sony has decided porting their games to PC is just not worth it.

ravens521d 6h ago

🤣. Just get a PS if you dont have one. 🤣

Neonridr1d 2h ago

I agree, I have a gaming PC along with a Pro and a Switch 2. I like choosing where I want to play my games. No I won't cry if I HAVE to play a title on my PlayStation. But it's nice having the option to play on my PC if I should choose.

That doesn't make me elitist or a fool in any way. My backlog of games is a country mile long. So if I can't get to a game at launch, getting it at PC down the road for a discount would be a nice option from time to time.

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Aloymetal1d 13h ago

I'm super glad Sony's going back to what they used to do for 30 yrs, porting games to pee zee was a huge mistake just for a couple of millions extra at most and it only tarnished the brand/platform. Bunch of ungrateful ''pee zee elitists'' anyway, always demanding and whining as if Sony is owes them a port. You want a Big Mac? then go to McDonalds and get one, don't expect Taco Bell to sell you one. Common sense, that's how everything works in this world.

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CrashMania1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

@obscure

I must have missed the part where Sony owned Kojima Productions and the Death Stranding IP, news flash, they don't, which is not what the article is about lol

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Jin_Sakai1d 13h ago

Music to my ears. So glad Sony are getting back to their roots with PlayStation. Scaling back on live service garbage and bringing back exclusives that made PlayStation what it is today.

1Victor1d 12h ago

If anyone want to blame someone blame steam for stepping into the console market thinking Sony would continue to make their games available on PC like Xbox have done on all platforms.
Damn I missed today spam cooking competition 🤤

1Victor1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

@ stakdeck: “ @Muffer Awwww. You really made an account just to say all of this”
nope he made 2 just to disagree with me 🤣

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Watchdogman1d 6h ago

What’s it like playing Bloodborne 4K 120fps on your Ps5? O wait…

jznrpg1d 1h ago

Only had to wait over a decade for it

TwistedXenos1d 4h ago

This feels like a bad move by Sony. The economy isn’t strong enough for most people to justify owning both a PC and a PlayStation. I’ve gotten used to playing on PC with a controller anyway. It’s a bit disappointing, but I’m not going back to consoles unless the economy improves significantly.

Michiel19891d ago

I'll wait to play it on PC where it'll play best, just a bit later on an emulator with higher res textures higher fps better controls and for free

z2g20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

It’s bc they don’t sell well. The cost to port vs revenue generated isn’t worth it. This kinda just shows that it’s specifically PlayStation people that love PlayStation exclusives - not necessarily gamers as a whole. That makes sense. Buy into what brands you like. PC has a whole universe of games that aren’t on console. Much bigger market. It doesn’t necessarily mean those interests are interchangeable.

Outside_ofthe_Box19h ago

Your logical fallacy is baffling.

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franwex1d 17h ago

I have a ps5 and play those games on it. But why are you thanking god? What relief does this give you for people getting an old game a year or so later?

RauLeCreuset1d 15h ago

"What relief does this give you for people getting an old game a year or so later?"

There's legitimate reason to find relief in the idea that PS is refocusing on its ecosystem and not jeopardizing it by doubling down on a strategy that could put it in a similar position as the current state of Xbox.

If true, it also relieves us of another "Sony too" deflection people have been arguing as a form of cope for years after years of people arguing that Xbox would surpass PS and Nintendo because those two weren't emulating the strategy of the only one of the big three that has never won a single console generation.

That's the cycle. Xbox has reinvented the wheel and done something the soon to be obsolete PS can't replicate, until it blows up in their faces. Then, it's "Sony too."

SimpleDad1d 12h ago

Because that stupid decision kills consoles.
Everything is an Xbox, and now nothing is an Xbox.

People downloading torrents to play spiderman on their steam deck, and we all knew it.

I'm definitely not buying a Steam Machine for $2k over in scalper land just to play a settings game every time I turn it on.

HellspawnPR19811d 2h ago

@SimpleDad not if done correctly. It killed Xbox because putting games day 1 on GamePass is cannibilizing their sales.

Amplitude22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Thank God people that have gaming PCs now get to play infinitely inferior versions of two good games per year exclusive to the hyper locked down non-upgradable overpriced subscription-addicted Sony gaming PC.
Still got my PS5, but only for AstroBot, Wolverine, and whatever the next Ratchet game is gonna be. This console cycle has been absolute garbage. Forcing consumers to buy a piece of tech this lame in 2026 after they've shut down all their good studios is brutal. RIP Bluepoint.

maelstromb20h ago

Agreed. This has been an absolute lame-duck Sony console generation. Very few worthwhile titles for overpriced hardware. I'll continue to enjoy the plethora of endless game titles available through Steam and other platforms while Sony-only fans remain stuck in their ecosystem waiting for the next big title to drop once every 2 years. Have fun with that.

dveio1d 17h ago

Well, we have the data in front of us, don't we. Not to mention how extensive Sony's data's got to be.

They've tried.

Huge revenue wasn't generated (don't get me wrong - they did make billions, but you get it), Steam got a cut, Xbox got a cut, PS5 is trailing ~2 million units behind PS4.

The paycheck for, but also potential harm to the remaining years of PS5 and the release of PS6, just wasn't it.

It's absolutely logical if true.

And people shouldn't forget Sony'd simply return to the strategy they've been following for 4/5 of Playstation's history.

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wesnytsfs1d 1h ago

Good luck with that, Sony wa losing money on their AAA exclusives since their ecosystem was not generating enough to revenue to cover their costs. Just another stupid move almsot as dumb as their live service push.

dveio22h ago

You think Sony made losses with God of War, The Last of Us, Ghost of, Horizon or Spiderman?

Huh.

wesnytsfs21h ago

@dveio, I hope those games made money they were good games. Horizon Forbidden West cost $212 million, while The Last of Us Part II cost $220 million, excluding marketing. Much rather see more platforms instead of them raising prices to cover the game since its lmited to one specific console.

Reaper22_1d 16h ago

I call BS. Too much money to lose.

MDTunkown1d 15h ago

Goal of exclusives is to sell the console and not the game

Reaper22_1d 13h ago

Lol.. that makes no sense. That logic puts all publishers and developers out of business. The majority of people buy games on the system they prefer. Exclusives are only a tiny fraction of games sold. Selling 15 million games beats selling 2 million consoles.Consoles stagnate but games dont. How is sony trying to sell their console by putting God of War on PC? The overall goal is to make money and the games keep the money coming. The majority of the time consoles are sold for a loss. And If it is making money its not that much. Especially in the first few years after release. All the enjoyment is coming from experiencing the game.

wesnytsfs1d 1h ago

Consoles do not make money until late in their lives games make the money.

ThePacemaker1d 13h ago

All this BS as you say contributes just 1.5% to PlayStation’s total revenue

Reaper22_1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Actually its closer to 4%. Playstation has grossed over 1.5 billion on steam to date. So its not BS. At the end of the day, its not about what you want. They are going to do what they need to in order to increase profits. Did they ask you for permission before they shut down Bluepoint studios? No.

Felix_Argyle_Catbro1d 1h ago

What do you expect releasing a game 2 years late??

BlaqMagiq11d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

We get it. You hate PS is no longer putting their exclusives on PC while your favorite platform is giving theirs away to PC and other platforms.

Reaper22_1d 2h ago

Thats ignorant. First of all nothing has been confirmed. I really dont care where sony put their games because I own a ps5 and a pc. So theres no hate. And for the record, I dont have a favorite platform but I do have a preference. There is a difference.

BlaqMagiq11d ago

Everything you said is BS. If you didn't care where they put their games you would've never made this comment. And you've made it clear you CLEARLY have a favorite platform. Just because you own a ps5 and pc doesn't negate that.

Reaper22_21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Can you confirm that they are no longer putting their games on PC? If you cant then your whole argument is just nonsense. I dont care where they put their games. Part of the reason is i dont like all their games. Just like it dont like all games.on other platforms. I called BS on this report because its not based on facts to back it up. Maybe you care a little too much about it which imo is a waste of time. LIke I said before its not about you want. They dont need our permission to do anything. So if they do stop putting games.on PC it wont be because that what playstation fanboys want. It will be for business reasons. Thats why I said its BS. Why would they turn down opportunities to make money. For the record, games are developed on dev kits which are basically PC anyway. They only have to gain.

Dandizzle23h ago

Look how much attention this got, Jason Schreier pulls this shit all the time. Then people just forget his embellished claims.
You send this dude one random ass email I bet he will write up a whole story on it.

Reaper22_21h ago

I dont why people are getting all upset over something of little importance.

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