A Possible Solution To Microsoft's Storage Dilemma?

NBA09TheInsideFlop6460d ago

says the last place loser of this gen. in your dreams!

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Fox016460d ago

God, you're dumb. You aren't worth the rope it would take to hang yourself

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hitthegspot6460d ago

Give me a break. You still need to get the game onto the drive and that would require multiple DVDs. Another Blog looking for hits...

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Elven66460d ago

Good to know you take time to read and understand articles.

It never claims use a USB HDD, it claims a game can be put onto a USB device for playback on the Xbox 360. It never says anything about the consumer doing such a thing, only the developers.

Good job!

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aceitman6460d ago

havent you heard already and for the last time metal gear 4 solid going to the 360 has been put to rest again its not going to the 360 ...... and you can not run games on external hard drives and not too metion developers are complaining about dvd space and mainly about live space limit put on by microsoft and no im no fanboy i own all systems hand held and home systems yes the wii which is collecting dust big time

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Gondee6460d ago

This would not work with current USB drives.

The way usb drives are made is that they sacerfice length of use for storage. The larger the stick, the more closly placed the cells are. And because they are in blocks. That entire block must be modified by an electrical current. a non SLC stick wont last more then 100k reads. and even thats pushing it if you write back.

they would have to put it on the hard drive for this to be remotely possable

Elven66460d ago

aceitman: You have completly missed the point of this article, It looks like all you did was read the title and "metal gear solid 4, Xbox 360" and gave your opinion.

Gondee: Your right it will have it's limitations, but the USB port is really the only solution Microsoft has if they decide to do something about the complaints.

aceitman6460d ago

uh huh elvin did you read my whole statement uh no i read YOUR article all the WAY and if you did what i did read all of what i said you will see that with rumors of metalgear solid 4 coming to the 360 you decide to go from that to microsoft neening more space which i spoke about im not going to say it again just read the whole statment that i wrote

Elven66460d ago

aceitman: It makes no sense! All your questions are answered in the post, it goes over the storage limitations, it goes over WHAT is needed for games to be run off a USB device, I really don't know what more I can say, your questions are already answered in the article.

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shovelbum6459d ago

I think that there really isn't a storage issue in the eyes of MS. If there was, then they would seek to rectify the problem, Blu or otherwise. I believe the next xbox console will hit sooner than expected and that is why MS just shrugs off the storage issue if there is one.

hitthegspot6459d ago

So a big game costs $60 + the costs of a USB drive? No way never. I don't own a PS3 but this is a little far fetched. I have Blue Dragon and I actually like throwing in a new CD. It's a feeling of accomplishment.

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Sena Kobayakawa6460d ago

just give The MGS4 rumours already. this is getting old and this is feeding the trolls.

im of to another thread with my MAX SPEED!!!

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Elven66460d ago

Now I can definitely tell you didn't read the article!

Sena Kobayakawa6460d ago

That Gaming Site writes: "With rumours about Metal Gear Solid 4 coming to the Xbox 360 and developers complaining about the Xbox 360's storage limitations, we ask, what can Microsoft do?"

this is the reason why i said the MGS4 line.

Elven66460d ago

Yes, in reference to the fact that MGS 4 is a huge game, the actual article says nothing about MGS 4 being ported to the 360 aside from the what if sentence on top.

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silverchode6460d ago

im of to another thread with my MAX SPEED!!!

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Fishy Fingers6460d ago

USB stick? That's the best they could come up with? Do they realise how much more expensive a 10gb+ USB stick is than a DVD. Let alone 50gb.

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Elven66460d ago

Prices come down rapidly, plus if such a system is devised no other method would be avialable other then something that uses the USB port.

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Lolliflop Lolliflop 6460d ago

Remote detonate the flopbox's?

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Lord Shuhei Yoshida6460d ago

I have no doubt that Microsoft will continue to disappoint this fall with their lack of quality.The xbots are use to this sort of treatment fortunately.

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poindat6460d ago

Uh, why not do what they should have done at the start and make hard drives standard? If this makes the Arcade owners angry, f*ck them, they're the weakest link.

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Elven66460d ago

I agree, I would take either a harddrive or presumably a HD DVD drive from the getgo.

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Lolliflop Lolliflop 6460d ago

...what you have thought was reality was not real...
...what you have believed as the truth contained no honesty...

Xturds,you have been living in the Floptrix.

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BrunoM6460d ago (Edited 6460d ago )

that just wont work ... a 4gigmemori stick can go got 99 bucks and if they want to make BIG hd games they gona need lets say hummmm 25gigs atlest .. so lets see the price on that ....

it wont hapen in the end Microsoft made a bad pick going with DvDs .. and for more people dont like wen Sony says ps3 is future proff in the end they are right BlueRay does its work .. and space is not that big of a deal.. and HDD in every ps3 usb ports ..

the ps3 is ready for the next 6 years ( in my eyes is how much longer the ps3 will be alone as the Sony main console)

the 360 started wrong microsoft push it to much so it would be out a year befor the ps3 ..bad move .. if they had taken their timthse would never pop up as a problem nd no MGS4 wont show up on the 360
MGS4 is MGS4 because of its HD videos and gameplay so taking that to the 360 with out the full hd nd ia few dvds wont be MGS

inthe end bad move from Mcrosoft and now they gona come up with somethiid to keep up

Sarick6460d ago

There are USB flash memory aren't there? I've never seen a USB-ROM drive. In any case isn't 50gb of ROM cheaper then RAM.

If they can get 9gb in the DVD, and 32gb on a USB-ROM that's a lot of space. Seems silly though why not just allow people to install more data on an HDD. The side effect is having forced installs to the 360.

People who complain about the PS3 HDD installs might not use that as a bullet point for the system if 360 also had install requirements.

BrunoM6460d ago

True ur right for most ...

but they dint think to much ahead when they relesed the 360 .. they put out a 360 with no HDD what does that show u they want sales .. ok so its cheper but every one of them by the looks of it are gonna end up needing a HDD

ur right about the ram aswell .. but come on that is not normal ... thouse are the type of thing people (Microsoft/Nintendo/Sony) have to think about Sony did think about it .. Nintendo if we really think about it they dont really need it .. (a 4 or 8 Gig Memorystik is anuf for a wii) Microsoft just did REALLY bad they just rush it to much ..

and the prove of that is in the Red ring thingy i got my 360 the day it came out im on my xbox360#4 .. come on WHAT A HELL is these i PAY for it i want something GOOD .. im on my FIRST ps3 .. ok i pay more but i know what im geting a ONY machine and wen i say SONY i meand SONY like a FULLHD TV MP3s radios spekers .. its SONY

and like it or not SONY is the same as quality

what ever they gona do they can do it i only have and ant my 360 for gears and thats it all other games i play them on my ps3 MUCHHH more happy with my ps3 that my 360 the fourth one ..!!!!!!!

and in the end thats all that really matters what I (a Xbox360 OWNER) thinks

PS360PCROCKS6460d ago

My god you either need some language courses or a typing course, because that is awful to read, that or SLOW DOWN!!

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SolidWarri0r6460d ago

Hi. I'm a PS3, and I lack exclusive games and a good overall experience.

Buy me for only $400!! PLEASE DONT BUY A 360 :(((((

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BrunoM6460d ago

humm iasent that kinda dump ps3 does have more ExCl games that the 360 and ovaroul is much better .. going on the internet CHECK DVDs/ HD Blue Ray CHECK Online Gaming for up to 60 people CHECK games only for the ps3 (LB R2 K2 GT MAG FFvs and much more) CHECK

(oo ya i got a 360 and only cus of only good game th on 360 Gears)

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Rozgar236460d ago

Its true this is fact have you seen the torrent sites?
MotoGP 08 PAL XBOX360
Fable 2 USA XBOX360
Saints.Row.2.MULTi3.PAL.XBOX3 60
Far Cry 2 USA XBOX360
Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 PAL XBOX360
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Lego Batman USA PROPER XBOX360
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Warriors Orochi 2 PAL XBOX360
Pure.PAL.XBOX360
Star.Wars.The.Force.Unleashed .PAL.X360
Hellboy.The.Science.of.Evil.P AL.XBOX360
Warhammer.Battle.March.PAL.XB OX360
Facebreaker.PAL.X360
Mercenaries.2.World.In.Flames .PAL.X360
Stranglehold XBOX360
Too Human PAL XBOX360
Soul.Calibur.IV.PAL.XBOX360
Unreal.Tournament.3.Uncut.REA DNFO.PAL.XBOX360
Battlefield.Bad.Company.PAL.X 360
I should start supporting MS they give free games they just admitted it with the hundreds of articles that they will not get Blu-ray
by the way my faith is for PS3......

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Aclay6460d ago

Well, the first thing that Microsoft can do is to stop selling the Xbox 360 Arcades with no hard drive.

The next thing they should do is to offer anyone that already has a Xbox 360 Arcade a 25%-50% discount on ANY Xbox 360 Hard drive with proof of purchase.

I think that Microsoft's storage problem with the 360 could get worse if they continue to sell the Arcades. A USB Stick could be a step in the right direction like the article states, but knowing how Microsoft is, they will probably manufacture their own USB Stick and slap the Xbox name on it and sell it for an inflated price... hard drives should have been standard in every 360 to begin with like the first Xbox was. This is the HD-Era and Hard drives are a must... the Nintendo Wii is an exception because the Wii's games aren't even HD.

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elorm96460d ago

True, it's the main reason why I didn't get a 360 and why I use linux. M$ charges you for every little thing they have to offer.

joebahrjoebahr6460d ago

60 player online is ANNOYING and looks liek shat.

cant wait to see what mag does to the poor ps3

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Shadow Man6460d ago

I have a better solution. A free HD-DVD addon with the purchase of a MGS4 HDDVD version of the game. You see you get MGS4 in a 51gb HDDVD disk and play it in your addon. It woun't be a lost because last time I check Wal-mart was sailing HDdvd addons for $5.

Time_Is_On_My_Side6460d ago (Edited 6460d ago )

Three USB ports for every XBOX 360 sounds good, but in reality two are meant for other devices while one was meant for the WiFi adapter. So for the ones who have the WiFi adapter would mean nothing to them so stating that Microsoft was smart to include three USB ports was useless.

Now releasing games with a USB stick must be the strangest idea I've ever heard. Let’s look at memory sticks, for a 2.0 memory stick on Best Buy (Canada) will run you at $35.99/$34.99

$35.99 x $1.15 (tax changed but close enough) = $41.3885 (41.39)
$41.39 / 2GB = $20.695 (20.70)
$20.70 x 100GB = $2,070 for a 100GB Memory Stick

Now the USBs, a decent 2.0 one at Best Buy (Canada) will run you $9.99 for a 1GB drive.

$11.4885 (11.49) x 100GB = $1,149.00 for a 100GB 2.0 USB Drive.

As of speaking of now this will be too expensive to do when developers can just make games exclusive to the PlayStation 3. As the prices look as of today will not be the solution for XBOX 360 first party developers and will have to make do with what they got. Microsoft’s plan looked good for the short run but the long run Sony’s plan is gold. I can see all those exclusive titles that were once exclusive to the Sony brand coming back to Sony exclusively once again with their second or maybe third integration.

You would also have to think about what are each customer user the USB ports for. I'm using it for charging my controller(s), is the next person so adjustable as I am would be an important question? The funny thing too is that the PlayStation 3 is more suited for this than the XBOX 360.

BrunoM6460d ago

i agree with all your points .. they rushed a console and thats something u cant do in these Billion dollar BIS ...

got to think ahead..!!

only i microsoft is thinking of making the 360 like the ipod every 2 3 years come out with something new ... its kinda easy to see by 2010 microsoft is gona start showing the next xbox wen people are still hoping for the 199 ps3 .. ps3 is gona have a long and good life and you ask WHY .. SONY was thinking AHEAD that jut why.!

FantasyStar6460d ago (Edited 6460d ago )

You can't simply take retail prices to determine the per-unit pricing of gigs. Those are the markup prices and a gross-misleading at least. Did you know that it really costs about $3 to make a 1GB stick, the manufacturer sells the stick to retailers for $6-7 and then the stick is marked up to $10. So going by your math, you're way off because mark-ups have no weight on how much it costs manufacturers to make flash sticks.

Let's assume that it does cost $3 for a GB.

$3 x 9GB = $27 for a 9GB stick, which with mass-producing will reduce the volume pricing by $0.65 per stick.

$3 x 100GB = $300, however because you're using the same board for MLC(Multi-layer cells), you can knock off around %40-$50, which will be around $100-150. About a $1000 difference from your predictions.

I'm not saying that USB Sticks are a feasible solution for the 360 because MLC isn't favored due to low read-speed, write-speed, but I am saying that your math is way off when it comes to calculating costs.

Time_Is_On_My_Side6460d ago (Edited 6460d ago )

If you honestly think a 100GB memory / USB stick would cost $150.00 you'll sadly mistaken. Yes I do agree that prices are changed once we finally see it in stores, but developers don't make USB drives. Microsoft makes their own hard drives and it's at a higher price than the regular ones on the market. If anything my calculations are lower not higher because if it was easy to fit 100GB we would see it.

Like for example the technology in Blu-ray discs are different than the technology in DVDs. They had to change the laser's wavelength (405 nanometres) allowing it to hold more data. So by the time we start seeing 50GB / 100GB memory stick / USB drives it will most likely use new technology that would cost more to produce not less.

With the $3.00 will most likely go up to $10.00 or even $15.00 just to make alone then adding on the distribution prices on top of that. This is how people make money, you never sell something at the price it cost to make it.

tatsujin6460d ago (Edited 6460d ago )

Some people are seriously super slow. Just 3-4 days ago, KONAMI stated once again, that MGS IV is NOT coming to the 360 what-so-ever because of HARDWARE and CAPACITY. The Internet is your best friend. You can contact KONAMI at www.konami.com

Edit -- Btw, to the newbie who said "60 player is ANNOYING" you are just jealous because the PS3 can handle that many players on large-scale battlefields. Don't forget, those large space ships that you see are also IN-GAME (CG graphics) while you are in LA. I've seen them and died twice looking at them while shooting at other players. You should do more review on how the 60 player works. And R2 is the FIRST shooter to have Co-op on a console.

Poor Gears of War 2, low on Capacity to let Co-op be avaliable? Or is Unreal Engine 3 their best choice? Where's CG modeling? ... Hardware can't take it? Very sad.

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joebahrjoebahr6460d ago (Edited 6460d ago )

i have more points than you do OR is this one of your multiple ps3 troll accounts?

besides that i am IN the resistance 2 beta idiot. if you dont believe me add me and i can kill your ass in it

psn- deathcamp.

man some people .

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please tat,
argue with me or pm me and ill talk to you that way

elorm96460d ago

"And this, is where it begins"

Citizen Cook6460d ago

Its not rocket science.
They'll work something out. They're the best!

I doubt they even broke even on the MGS4 with PS3rd sales...

They NEED the Xbox to make a profit. They can't afford to turn all that cash and revenue away...

riskibusiness6459d ago

DVD-DISC/XBOX Live bit torrent. While playing the game the parts of the levels will be downloaded in the background and streamed for game play. There is no space issue. Intelligent disc/ download ratios can be established.