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Is Xbox One's biggest problem Microsoft itself

Steve C talks about whether the biggest obstacle to the success of Xbox One is the company that created it.

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Herbalistic3701d ago (Edited 3701d ago )

The Xbox One was designed to be an all in one media machine based on the reveal/hardware decisions.Microsoft thought they could win over the mainstream by building some kind of box that offers everything.That direction cost the Xbox One in terms of performance on the gaming side.

darthv723701d ago

The irony of the all-in-one box is that while people frowned upon MS for trying it... they flocked to the PS4 and it is virtually the same thing. It does tv and social and media and games and now VR.

As far as the xb1 is concerned, it is a good system. no doubt it is entertaining those who bought it. There will just be those who are dead set against it or anything that MS makes because they feel so strongly about MS and the XB brand.

GamerGT3701d ago

Your area correct. The PS4 does do those things. I think PlayStation had incorporated those added items more subtly. But first and foremost made sure there was no shortage of exclusive titles and that games were the priority. I think it wouldn't have mattered if the XBOX One had superior graphics this time around. The difference is slim. What matters is the quality and quantity of titles coming out of their studios.

UltraNova3701d ago

@GamerGt

Exactly, Sony focused on games and gamer related social features for their console while MS had Multimedia and Windows plans that clouded peoples perception of what the xbox was becoming.

Consoles are for games 99% of the time, a concept/message MS failed to focus on and pass along the gaming community.

MasterCornholio3700d ago

"they flocked to the PS4 and it is virtually the same thing"

But the messaging of the reveal was very different between the two.

In Sonys PS4s reveal gaming was the centerpiece of the conference with barely any mention of TV or other media features. Everything from new IPs to Cerny explaining how developers worked with them to develop the system is exactly what gamers wanted to hear. Therefore, when people thought of the PS4 they thought of everything that had something related to gaming.

But in Microsofts unveiling Kinect and the idea of a cable box was the star of the show. The majority of the conference was dedicated to how Microsoft would integrate the box with the TV world and how Kinect could do everything on the box. The actual gaming side of the presentation was lackluster with COD and Forza making an appearance. In the end after watching this gamers didnt really associate the system with gaming the way they did with the PS4. To many of them the Xbox One was just a cable box that was bundled with Kinect (which represented the downfall of 1st party support on the Xbox 360) plus its focus was going to be the regular mkx of Microsoft franchises and COD.

Now if Microsoft dedicated the whole unveiling to just gaming the results would have been very different. People point out their e3 conference but the truth is the first news that people will read is the unveiling of the system.

nix3700d ago (Edited 3700d ago )

The real reason why gamers lost faith in XBox started last gen. Faulty hardware that kept breaking down. Scratch discs. Last 3 years of last gen saw nothing new from MS studios whereas Sony was pumping games out even on the last year.

People may have short memories (that's why we keep voting same politicians) but last gen everyone who hung around 360 knew there was a better party happening on the other side. Just look at the years PS3 exclusives won "Game of the year" awards - there are 3, i remember: UC2, Journey and TLOU.

Then Xbox1 was announced. Rest is history.

We can talk about how much MS has turned around but it's like PTSD for some of those who had to go through 3-5 consoles/dry season. Those memories can't be erased that easily.

Surviving only on 360 last gen was also like a dude bro thing to do:

"My 360 broke too, bro"
"hahaha awesome bro"
"welcome to the gang"

Getting your 360 replaced was like winning a hero's patch - like being a proud member of the pack. A cool thing to happen.

MS really messed up the announcement of Xbox1. They really did. That's why many went and bought PS4. That's why we see all the PS3 AAA titles being remade for PS4 because Sony saw a surge in new players.

I never needed 360 because Gears of War was the only franchise i loved on it and i was not going to buy a console for one franchise - that too with a faulty hardware. I'm sure same was with 360 fans.

All in all, i want to say that MS sowed the seeds way back in 360 days, they had good games the first few years and that was why people never moved out back then. Also their friends had 360.

This gen Sony is also reaping from things they did last gen. They showed solidarity with the gamers. In spite of thousands of "PS3 IS DOOMED" articles, they continuously gave us amazing games after games until the time PS4 was announced. That's what people also saw. That's one of the huge reason people bought PS4.

Karma can be an angel too. Happy gaming.

t-hall7853700d ago (Edited 3700d ago )

Funny part is, MS was actually more focused on games as well. I mean besides bloodborne, ps4 is just now hitting its stride with games this spring. Like another commenter mentioned, it's just a strong hate of the brand that hurts them. Sony can take missteps and they get swept under the rug. Ms takes a misstep and the media and fanboys riot the streets. They are both good aystems that do pretty much the same thing...except vr.

DeadManIV3699d ago

The problem with the Xbox One is that it seems I'm going to be able to play all of its exclusives on my PC. I own many consoles (Xbox, 360, wii, wii u, ps3, ps4, vita, etc) and a gaming pc - I bought those consoles for the exclusives. I use them to play games, nothing else (my pc is used for everything else). So, for me, why would I buy an Xbox one?

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turdburgler10803701d ago

You can pretty much bet when MS finally gets around to rolling out another console they won't skimp on graphical specs. Hell they might go back to losing money per console in order to beef up the machine. In the end though who knows.

UltraNova3701d ago

They choose to miss that train this gen when they had the best chance they would ever get to really make a dent in Playstion's dominance.

That said I'm confident Sony will just keep out-powering them every gen.

In any case, next gen will be very unpredictable this time around, given recent news/rumors both MS and Sony are looking very keen on shaking things up pretty drastically when it comes to what we think a console is.

I for one I'm not that excited on things to come. I hope I'm wrong.

Forum_Pirate3701d ago

That exsists. It's called a PC. For $400 you can buy a computer that is better in every way than either console. They're trying to turn Consoles into PCs and PCs into consoles. Because whoever is in charge of MS is Roger Rabbit and completely devoid of sense.

Lennoxb633701d ago

People need to stop saying this. A $400 PC is not touching a console. Period. You are misinformed.

If you're talking about just the card, sure. But where's the rest of your PC at? The graphics card alone is not enough.

t-hall7853700d ago

Yes..please stop saying this. It's total bulls***. You cannot get the same value for 400...not at all.

Forum_Pirate3700d ago

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

400 usd (exchange rate has improved since time of recording,) that computer can and will keep pace with or outperform modern consoles for gaming while being better at everything else. Most games are very bad at using multiple cores (though DX12 could change that) so all those extra cores doesn't amount to much performance in modern games, speed and architecture at the bigger deals.

If you're really worried you can tac on 50 bucks for a 960 or an I3 (which you can unlock on some MBs.)

So you're wrong, try again sweetie. I like consoles, I have every major console released since like 1995, but the only advantage they have is that they're easy to use and maintain.

agame9143700d ago

Wth you talking about?? The monitor alone will run you $200

SpinalRemains1383700d ago

For 400!?

Put the pipe down. Seriously. That is so incorrect that it is laughable.

Forum_Pirate3700d ago

Yes for $400. Watch the freaking video.

The moniter? Are you kidding? Are we adding the cost of the TV to the price of consoles now?

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xfiles20993701d ago

It does do media very well I will give it that but what Xbox Ones problem is that the investors and fat cats do not believe in the Xbone it has been nothing but money loss for them for several years. They have wanted Microsoft to close the Xbox division for awhile now. The reason games are going to PC is to make up from the loss of sales from the Xbox. If investors had there way there would be no Xbox.

TheSaint3700d ago

Jack of all trades, master of none.

3-4-53700d ago

Performance isn't an issue with XB1.

It's the game selection.

I'm very disappointed in the game available to play on my XB1. less than 5-10% even interest me at all.

So many boring lackluster filler games compared to the original xbox & 360.

* Good thing I have the NX to look forward to.

I've actually gotten more use out of my Wii U than the xb1, and I really love the XB1 and it's controller, but the games aren't there.

I won't see it because there are a few games I still want to play like Mass Effect, sea of thieves and such but yea it's been disappointing.

PS4 isn't much better but at least there are a few more original or unique games to play on that.

I don't regret my decision, I just wish there were more games to play that appealed to me.

* Can't wait for E3 this year to see what else is arriving soon though. I still have hope, but I need to be realistic about it and not make excuses.

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PhoenixUp3701d ago

Xbox One is the most successful product of the Xbox brand thanks to Microsoft.

2pacalypsenow3701d ago

I think Xbox Live takes that Trophy

2pacalypsenow3701d ago (Edited 3701d ago )

Came from the Original Xbox and made mode popular on the Xbox 360. It didn't come from Xbox one

jcole973701d ago

They all go hand in hand.

MasterCornholio3700d ago

Whoah there little fella.

Sony is open but not that open.

;)

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URNightmare3701d ago (Edited 3701d ago )

😂😂😂

xfiles20993701d ago

@phoenix Sorry but you are dead wrong Xbox One has been a failure in Microsoft's eyes all the price cuts and deals. It has costed them more money then the investors would like. If there initial price would of stayed and they were selling them hand over fist at that price then there would be reason to celebrate. But we all know the story

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Cdn_Seahawks_Fan3701d ago

Given the success that the Xbox 360 managed to have, and it was Microsoft's baby, I really think that it's not Microsoft as a company, but the decisions they were making in the beginning of the X1's introduction, and alas, so many people want to see the X1 fail, not Microsoft.

vanity293701d ago

I was taught that first impressions last. Seems to be true.

darthv723701d ago

So on the one hand you have the old phrase: you never get a 2nd chance to make a 1st impression.

On the other hand you have an even older phrase: never judge a book by its cover.

They sort of cancel each other out. You have a group of gamers who will not under any circumstances ever give a 2nd chance to the XB1 based on the 1st impression.

Then there is the other group of gamers who feel the changes that MS has been making warrant a closer look into the system under the ton of crap it was getting when it first came out. It is those who are trying to say to the rest that this system isn't so bad after all.

1st impression can go bad, but if that entity is really trying to make it up then it does deserve a 2nd chance. People have to be willing to see that and decide for themselves.

Unspoken3701d ago

Nice Darth

Unfortunately mob mentality rules this market. People can't make up their own minds and have to be told what to think. You are asking alot from people to use their brain.

ThatGuyDart3701d ago (Edited 3701d ago )

@Unspoken

Are you implying that anyone who doesn't give X1 a chance are incapable of using their brain?

Let's stop the pity party for this console. The fact is there could be multiple reasons why someone wouldn't want a X1. Just because someone doesn't care to own one doesn't mean they've fell into "mob mentality".

II__BONE__II3701d ago

The only reason the Xbox 360 had ANY success was that it launched a full year in front of the PS3 and the PS3's launch price helped MS as well.
The 360 was plagued with problems such as low capacity dvd disc's,Scratched disc and the RROD. The only thing that helped that box was Xbox live.
There was nothing special about the 360 itself,christ it even used a disc tray and you had to buy an expansion unit in order to watch HD movies.
The PS3 even trailing by a year managed to catch up to the 360 and in most places surpass it.

Xavior_Reigns3701d ago

Four peeps apparently disagree with reality.

rainslacker3701d ago

I think that's what this article is referring to though. It was MS who made the policies and design of the system to get what MS itself wanted. They kind of made the game console part either something for the back burner, or as part of something grander. There was so much with the initial design of the system that made me think that the higher ups at MS were making the system into something other than a game console, however, I do think that Mattrick did have a hand in it, as I never thought his interests really lay with gaming itself...at least not the same kind of focus on gaming that consoles typically market to.

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DigitalRaptor3701d ago (Edited 3701d ago )

Xbox One is the most hilariously paradoxical console of all time because of Microsoft's original non-gaming focuses and distractions that cost them any and all chances of competing with the market leader in any serious manner this generation. It was called the Xbox One because of its original vision and the people who were behind all the bad decisions and intentions, and it's now a fairly different console to what it could have been today if people were less rightfully hostile to its introduction.

However, it's still called the XB1 and the ramifications and countless 180 spins are still being felt, and it seems that the PR nightmare is stuck on a never-ending loop. To this day, Microsoft are still being vague with their future vision that involves almost all of their exclusives games being launched on PC, the worry in first-party downsizing, and that kind of vagueness and lack of understanding what gamers want is what has caused so much controversy this generation. So I would say so. MS needs to deeply clarify their direction that involves Windows 10.

This year Nintendo has the NX focus, Sony has the PS4/PSVR focus and Microsoft only has its games, the W10/PC thing that people are not showing enthusiasm towards. I think Microsoft should just go a-fresh and gather a headstart on what is rumoured to be the PS4K (whatever the heck that might be).

GMR_PR3701d ago

you almost nail it, until the last paragraph :/

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omegaheat3701d ago (Edited 3701d ago )

Do you realize how ridiculous you people sound. I keep hearing your same bullshit excuse as to why you don't like the Xbox One. Everytime one of these journalists baits you PS4 gamers in, you jump on their wagon and start copying and pasting everything the author says over and over like a broken record. First it was DRM, then it was Microsoft are evil because they gave gamers the option to buy the console without Kinect. After that argument lost steam, it was resolution, then it was sales comparison. Then it was exclusivity and what defined a true exclusive. After that it was, why get a PC if you can buy an expensive rig to properly play Xbox One exclusives. Stupid quotes about how you were going to trade in your Xbox One to get a PC. The new buzz word is vision, and how Microsoft aren't making it clear to gamers. If you guys had been keeping up with any of the articles, you would know that Microsoft has been speaking to the entire gaming community about it's vision as time goes on. You people are embarrassing yourselves by pretending to own an Xbox One, on the verge of selling it, or claiming that you no longer want one now with all the changes. Just say that you don't like the console and start using your own words. By the way, the console never shipped with the original vision, so let it go.

SpinalRemains1383700d ago (Edited 3700d ago )

They're not excuses.

All those reasons you listed are rooted in recent historical fact. The fact that MS had to reverse nearly all the awful anti-consumer 'visions' is all one needs in order to see that MS had it wrong. Their vision was vehemently opposed and many are to this day still put off by them.

The only excuses I see, are by those who are defending the parent company after all these recent debacles. Opponents to the 'vision' need not make any excuses since they're on the winning side of history. What exactly are opponents excusing?

You're delusional. In your mind, if someone doesn't like the Xbox One for any of the reasons you listed, they're making an excuse. An excuse? No those are the reasons.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio14d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing14d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9214d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit14d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing14d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9213d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay15d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn216d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn215d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown16d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay15d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay15d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac15d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger16d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300016d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde16d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde15d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7517d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_15d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.