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Is Quantum Break Coming to PC a Mistake?

Another week, another Twinfinite Discusses. Welcome back to the show where Ed, Yami, Sharon, and Ish talk about the hottest gaming topics of the week and the questions you send in.

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FasterThanFTL13746d ago

Ignoring PC for so long was a mistake. In another timeline Microsoft could have had the dominant Digital Distribution service on PC instead of Steam and with Microsoft's money it could have been much much bigger than what Steam is today.

UltraNova3746d ago

Are you serious? If you can predict stuff so can I:

It would be full of spyware, be stricter, significantly more expensive with less offers/sales, there's no way in hell they would ever have a refund policy, it would definitely have a yearly/monthly subscription and they would force you to buy their latest OS and compatible hardware the same day they release it.

If MS's track record is anything to go by, they would be the worst company to have PC gaming monopoly.

Ogygian3746d ago

Very good point, but from Microsoft's perspective...

donthate3746d ago

That is what people said about the Xbox too, then Xbox 360 released, and it pushed Sony to copy just about everything.

The landscape of today's console gaming is in large part thanks to MS, and very little lasting contribution from the other two platforms.

SniperControl3746d ago (Edited 3746d ago )

@donthate

Man, you talk some utter rubbish sometimes, defending MS to the death.

We can thank MS for having to pay to play online.

We can thank MS for highly dispicable business practices such as paying stupid millions for DLC.

The fact that they would have imposed draconian DRM methods on the X1 escapes you, then lie to gamers saying it cant be turned off and if you dont like it buy a 360.

I'am not saying Sony are angels themselves, but MS have definitely bought a bad taste to the console market.

"The landscape of today's console gaming is in large part thanks to MS, and very little lasting contribution from the other two platforms"

Rightttttt....Thats why Sony are 21m consoles ahead of the X1, with the gap increasing, thats why the Wii hammered both the PS3 and 360 last gen.

The fact MS have yet to win a gen says it all really.

Get over yourself.

SniperControl3746d ago

@ultranova

You just described GFWL perfectly.

Griever3746d ago (Edited 3746d ago )

@donthate

Exactly, the gaming landscape today is solely MS's contribution. We did not have DLCs, season passes, timed exclusivity, parity clauses, unfinished games, microtransactions, moneyhatting exclusives, obsession with AAAs and dudebro shooters until MS entered the industry. If it werent for Sony and PS4, they would have imposed used game restriction, DRM and always online as well.

Japanese gaming industry was much healthier and Japanese developers were making so many more games. We got creative, high quality and finished games without DLC and from all kinds of genres back then instead of same shooters/racers that MS has been chruning out for more than a decade. Yep, MS is definitely responsible for the sorry state of gaming industry today which is probably heading towards another crash. Thank you very much for your contributions MS. /s

mikeslemonade3746d ago (Edited 3746d ago )

I doubt the black guy's Laptop is that much stronger than a the Xbox One. Even if he had the 980m or something it ain't that much better due to parity and console optimization is a lot better than PC.

Dark_Crow3746d ago

Looks like a lot of people have the silly assumption MS is responsible for a lot of gaming troubles of today.

How many Microsoft published games had season passes??? Right so if Ubisoft and ea do something like season passes it's somehow MS fault.

Dlc....morrowind the elder scrolls had it and this was mainly for pc. So has starcraft and other games. Expansions have been around for much longer then the xbox brand. Sorry. another silly accusation. Dlc comes from developers like ea and Ubisoft.

Exclusivity deals?? Oh yes this was already happening with PlayStation before Xbox showed up. And yes it is quite hard to find really really old articles on the web. Gaming didn't have as much online media announcing these things back then.

Yes we do pay to play online but Sony didn't have to follow. Atleast Xbox gamers know why they pay for a better more stable online with dedicated servers. But with Sony now you're paying for the same you had before for free. And they never gave a good reason for it.

MS brought forth online gaming at a quality that hadn't been before on the consoles regardless of payment.

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TripleCs3746d ago (Edited 3746d ago )

@donthate

Yea because it's not like Microsoft copied Sony and put dual analog sticks onto their controllers.

It's not like Microsoft copied Sony and put four shoulder buttons onto their controllers.

It's not like Microsoft copied Sony and put built in rumble in their controllers.

It's not like Microsoft copied Sony and put disc formats like blu-ray in their consoles before.

It's not like Microsoft copied Sony's EyeToy with Kinect.

It's not like Microsoft copied Sony's PS Plus and added games GWG to XBL.

I can go on but I think you get the point. Your argument is incredibly flawed. Cut the crap. As I pointed out, Sony has made very big contributions to the gaming industry as well just as Microsoft has and I never understood why people complain about companies copying other companies anyway. Should we complain about Apple, Samsung, and LG copying IBM and making touch screen phones as well? Every company copies another companies contributions. This whole copying argument is childish. It reminds me of being in Kindergarten and seeing kids call eachother copycat's for choosing the same favorite color, or choosing the same snack during snack time. Seriously, you're acting like a pre schooler right now..

You know, I thinks it's hilarious that you call others (like me) fanboys when you're constantly posting dumb $hit like this and defending Microsoft 24/7 any chance you get. Honestly, do you really even believe half the crap that you post?? Because If you do then may god help you.. lol

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awi59513746d ago (Edited 3746d ago )

Yeah microsoft was never in the game they came way to late. I bought Half life 2 on launch date and steam launched then and i hated it. But with games like counter strike bundled in i gave up and loved it after they fixed the stuipd bugs. But windows didnt even have a store at all they didnt even try untill like what 6 years later.

skcej3746d ago

lmao! Grabbing my friend a card from Hallmark for console exclusivity. This was a great episode! I'm not bothered how many people get to play Quantum Break, the more the merrier. However, I do understand some people's anger if they bought the console pretty much solely to play the game considering it was toted for so long as an Xbox exclusive, especially if they already had a PC.

FasterThanFTL13746d ago (Edited 3746d ago )

The game was 2 months away, why would someone want to buy a console 2 months earlier than the game you bought the console solely for. It does not make sense unless there are other games on Xbox that they are interested in.

skcej3746d ago

Maybe if they grabbed it in a Black Friday deal or something? Idk just suggesting haha

donthate3746d ago

It is on the consumer anyhow, because things change. The game could be cr@p, or have issues or whatever.

So if you buy your console based on a single game that isn't released, well THAT IS ON YOU!

Neonridr3746d ago

they still get to play the game though. And if they buy the XB1 version digitally they get a free Windows copy anyways.

I can understand the frustration of someone who maybe bought an XB1 when they already had a gaming PC, but I am sure the percentage of people that fill that category is very small.

Plus with cross-buy features enabled possibly for all Windows 10 - XB1 games, it works out to own both, much like a PS4 / Vita player.

AngelicIceDiamond3746d ago

"I can understand the frustration of someone who maybe bought an XB1 when they already had a gaming PC, but I am sure the percentage of people that fill that category is very small."

Exactly wow. That's why ppl shouldn't worry about it.

christocolus3746d ago

@Neonridr

"I can understand the frustration of someone who maybe bought an XB1 when they already had a gaming PC, but I am sure the percentage of people that fill that category is very small.

I agree with this too. This shouldn't be a big deal.

Kingthrash3603746d ago

Yes and no.
Yes because xbox spent the last 2 years bragging about exclusives and how it has more than ps4.. (releasing during holiday season only) now it's questionable how many exclusives will come to the xbox. Exclusives sell consoles, ask halo, gears, mario, zelda, Pokémon, uncharted and god of war....to name a few.
No because the developers will make more money on pc and pc gamers get to play it.
Xbox gamers who pay for xbl lose the most here. Pc gamers can enjoy these former exclusive games without paying for xbl...which is a sorta slap in the face to xbox owners who pay 60 a month and a even harder slap to pc owners who bought a Xbox for the exclusives like qb.. (I bought a Xbox for QB myself)...so all in all the bad out weighs the good and leaves the questions of why did I buy a xbox, will all exclusives become pc also, and will this be the last xbox console.

Neonridr3746d ago (Edited 3746d ago )

so if a game comes to the PS4 and the Vita is it no longer considered a Sony exclusive?

Windows 10 is a gaming platform owned and supported by Microsoft.

Kingthrash3603746d ago (Edited 3746d ago )

Look not 1 ps4 exclusive is coming to the vita....its remote play. I'm referring to AAA exclusives here. Sure many indie games come to both vita and the ps4 and yes most all games are remote playable on the vita.
The difference here is the exclusives are coming to pc with free online play and with the ability to look and feel better. Or look at the possibilities of halo coming to pc...pc players will have keyboard and mouse controls....we as gamers know that is a major advantage all while playing in 4k at 60fps or even 120fps FOR FREE ONLINE MP.
Say what you will but this is an issue for xbox gamers.
Xbox needed a great new AAA exclusive game to be born on it...that has yet to happen. And from the looks of it, never will. QB was announced 3 solid years ago been delayed and just announced to be coming to pc 2 months before launch. For years ms knew it was being developed for pc but continued to say it's was an xbox only title..scalebound and recore are now also delayed and likly because that are being developed for pc too.
Ps4 has bloodborne and until dawn, nintendo has splatoon, 360 has gears, original xbox has halo, ps3 has uncharted and tlou, ps2 gow, nin64 has goldeneye, cube has...um nothing and look how it turned out ps1 has Tekken almost all consoles have had trademark games born on it...even Sega has sonic. Xbox is a great console that needs a great new AAA ip...ignore it if you will but look at what's going on my friends. This bs war is over and from the looks of it ms has givin up on the console market and are looking to make xbox a service.
Watch.

UltraNova3746d ago (Edited 3746d ago )

Yeah lets pretend the Vita is like a PC OS monopoly where everyone has to develop their programs on it because the world needs PC's to function, in other words everyone has a PC with windows because its unavoidable and part of modern society.

Exactly like the Playstation Vita and exactly why when a ps4 game goes to the Vita is no longer exclusive cause everyone can play it now...yeah right!

Aenea3746d ago

It's different, I'm sorry you think it's not, PS Vita is a Sony console platform both hardware and software. Windows 10 is just an OS, nothing more.

See what UltraNova said...

Equating PS Vita/PS3 as being the same thing for Sony as Windows 10 is for MS is nonsensical.

Why o why3746d ago

wait... are vita games now comparable to ps4 games now... reach much. Im guessing by that logic, uncharted on the vita means uncharted on the ps4 isn't exclusive even though the uncharted's on vita are blatantly different games. pc x1 games are the exact same games just better on the pc like guys have stated before me

Neonridr3746d ago

look guys, I am specifically asking if a game releases on the PS4 and a port of it on the Vita, can you call it an exclusive? I am not talking about a unique game in a franchise released for the Vita alone.

MS has two platforms to support here, and they clearly want to expand the userbase of Windows 10 based gaming.

Nothing wrong with that.

Most of you either don't own an XB1 or a gaming PC anyways, so why would it even matter to you? Who cares? More people get to play MS games now.. that's a good thing.

CartBlanche3746d ago

That equivalence does not stand, IMO, as the Vita and PS4 are vastly different platforms/devices.

While a game released on PS4/X1 and then released on PC would not be exclusive, because the power of the PC is roughly equivalent (yes I know about ultra high settings on PC)

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Tedakin3746d ago

The 3 biggest Xbox exclusives, Gears, Forza and Halo still haven't found their way to PC.

Saranya3746d ago

I think it's going on PC soon.

ninsigma3746d ago

The same place that leaked qb as coming pc also said gears 4 would as well. Forza has also had a leak that 7 and horizon 3 will also be coming to pc so I wouldn't hold my breath on those ones stay exclusive. We've just had a halo so unlikely to have any word on the next one for some time though I do think if anything will stay exclusive, it'll be halo.

Why o why3746d ago

Well, 'Windows 10 wins right'... That's what the apologists keep spouting like true exclusives dont or wont matter anymore because MS said so.

If the trifecta ALL hit pc then it's curtains for the x1 as we know it. Even the most staunch x1 supporter can't be ignorant to the damage that causes to the x1 as an entity. Yes, MS wins but it'll be a pyrrhic victory

Ogygian3746d ago (Edited 3746d ago )

You might find that this becomes the last Xbox "console", and the next generation of the machine instead acts as a mass-produced easy-to-use PC of sorts, allowing better value, and to play the same games as on PC, just with a heavily optimised "Xbox" preset graphics setting.

Whether or not this works depends on Microsoft's approach to it. I wonder if they'll allow Steam by just giving it Windows 10, or if they'll force buyers to use the Windows 10 store.

If they do go down that route, it would be quite radical indeed.

SniperControl3746d ago

With MS investing millions on there server structure, i think the next Xbox as such will be like PS Now. A small box with HDMI and Ethernet connection.

Kiwi663746d ago

Are you saying that xbl is $60 a month , strange given how here in New Zealand xbl is $80nzd a year

CartBlanche3746d ago (Edited 3746d ago )

I think the argument that developers will make more money on PC is a false one. Piracy is a LOT more rampant on PC than consoles. Even with Windows Store, the hackers will crack that sooner than we all expect. Developers will actually earn less via PC sales. If they want to make money, then they need to get Microsoft to pay them for any game they release on PC, to offset money lost through piracy.

More people will get the play the game, but that is it. No wins for anyone else involved in the equation.

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Paytaa3746d ago

What number article is this about the same thing?

What's done is done.

Tedakin3746d ago

Never done. There were "Tomb Raider not coming to PS4" articles for a year. People can't just accept things and move on.

Tedakin3746d ago

I don't think this game alone would have generated that many Xbox console sales. It being on PC will massively increase the number of games sold though. Financially it makes a lot of sense.

ninsigma3746d ago

It's great for remedy and gamers because more people get to play and qb gets more exposure and money for remedy. It's also good for ms because they get more money from more game sales. The only downsides I see are it will affect xbox one sales to a degree and people bought an xb1 for exclusives and if they are moving to pc then I can see why they would be mad. I bought an xb1 for exclusives as well as a gaming rig, but I'm not really that bothered about the games going to pc (especially if all of them will have cross buy/save). I'm happy that I can play qb on my pc because it will look incredible! Really hoping gears follows it.

_-EDMIX-_3746d ago

I agree the only negative thing that comes from this is when it was announced as I believe it hurts those who might have purchased the platform specifically for that title but from here on out they need to announce all of them day and date now that we know that their plan is for both.

I'm willing to bet gears for scale bound Forza 6, Horizon 3 and the rest of the titles will release on both day and date so that will no longer become an issue about a misunderstanding regarding what is exclusive or not.

all will be on both.

ninsigma3746d ago

Yeah, the only thing I didn't like about this was that for so long they said it was an xb exclusive even though it was in development for pc. That's what I have issue with so yes, early announcements from now on are what's needed.

CartBlanche3746d ago (Edited 3746d ago )

I think the argument that developers will make more money on PC is a false one. Piracy is a LOT more rampant on PC than consoles. Even with Windows Store, the hackers will crack that sooner than we all expect. Developers will actually earn less via PC sales. If they want to make money, then they need to get Microsoft to pay them for any game they release on PC, to offset money lost through piracy.

More people will get the play the game, but that is it. No wins for anyone else involved in the equation.

RiseofScorpio3746d ago

No it won't. Well see how much it sells, its not even on Steam.

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You're still overlooking this Remedy sci-fi shooter, and its 89% cheaper on Steam Deck

Before Control Resonant launches, you need to play Remedy's mind-bending Quantum Break, one of the best third-person shooters around.

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15 Xbox Games That Should Make the Multiplatform Jump

While there’s likely already a list behind closed doors, one can still speculate and offer logical suggestions for titles new and old that should find their way into the PlayStation and Switch libraries.

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GamerRN798d ago

Single A games and live service games. Those make sense

S2Killinit798d ago

None of it makes sense. But its happening.

Ps5conehead797d ago

That’s up to Microsoft they want return on there investment. From buying up those publishers. That’s what there in business for. And they made a mistake putting day one exclusive on game pass. So now Microsoft wants to profit any way they can.its called buisness . Just like Sony putting games on pc a year are two after ps5 launch.
So if they can make money off PlayStation and Nintendo. They will do that. And I bet soon real soon they will release some aaa exclusives .and I bet one day it will be same day release

TheEroica797d ago

Sony gamers begging for Xbox games.... Who would've thunk it?

BISHOP-BRASIL797d ago

Yeah, because random site off the internet represents all Sony gamers, they have the letter of attorney and all...

S2Killinit797d ago

Lol what a spin. You dizzy?

AsunaYuukiTheFlash797d ago (Edited 797d ago )

We don’t care about shovelwares. Get that junk out of PS5

StormSnooper797d ago

More like MS begging to put their games on PlayStation.

TheEroica795d ago

Keep begging Sony gamers!

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Friendlygamer798d ago

Some of these seem to be exclusive for lack of enthusiasm of the publisher rather than because of deals. A lot of cool indies skip ps for some reason like katana zero, el paso, elsewhere and gunbrela

S2Killinit798d ago

Even more indies skip xbox. We know that right?

Friendlygamer798d ago

Quality over quantity, Microsoft got some really interesting and curated niche games on their machines, maybe in part because of gamepass

S2Killinit797d ago

Quality and MS are not things you bring up in same sentence.

shinoff2183797d ago (Edited 797d ago )

Alot of indies skip xbox to. It goes round and round. Personally I think your off base on that but no need to have the argument.

Friendlygamer797d ago

Between katana zero, valheim, Battletech, el passo... I don't feel off base. maybe ps got a million of light novel games that will never release on Xbox but like I've said, I'm talking about niche games highlights, the 10%.

  Heck, it's probably thanks to Microsoft that the s.t.a.l.k.e.r games came to console ps included, meanwhile Sony backwards compatibility continues to be extremely anemic.

And I'm sure most ps5 users are happy to ignore these games and just play wathever new 3rd person action game is trending but it's cool that Microsoft gives some love to smaller audiences and software preservation

shinoff2183797d ago

Again your off base just to be snide. All it's showing though is your ignorance.

One light novels wtf is that even. Ps has plenty of pretty damn good indies.

Speaking of indies and ms being responsible. You know F.I.S.T. of course you do alot of you guys just support gamepass. Well here's a history of Sony being responsible for helping indies. Look up the China project from Sony.

Lastly lol your ignorance showing again. Sony has plenty of games. Personally third person is better then first anyway but that's besides the point. Sony gets so many games that xbox doesn't get because yall don't support the games. Jrpgs being a great example. I personally am not into every Sony first party game. Alot of us aren't. On the other side you don't get to eat often so you gobble up everything. Me personally God of War not my cup, etc. For me I'm into jrpgs and ms just can't touch Sony on those. Again because the Xbox base doesn't support it. Devs dont wanna waste their time or money. Hit me up when falcom develops a game over there.

Speaking of third person narrative games. Aren't yall drooling over hellblade 2. The first one was Sony exclusive at one point. Another not my cup game. Showing we don't have to fall in line and agree we love everything Sony puts out. The facts are they sell though unlike elsewhere(not nintendo)

StormSnooper797d ago

You are same person as GamerRN, yes?

Abnor_Mal798d ago

They really think PlayStation fans would want to play Redfall? Pfft.

Personally nothing on that list would be any game I’d want to play.

TwoPicklesGood798d ago

I’d absolutely love Hellblade 2, Palworld, and Quantum Break on ps5 as I’m sure tons of others would too. There’s nothing wrong with wanting games from another console and its sad that people try to act like they aren’t interested in them.

shinoff2183797d ago

While indont agree with the games. I agree with the point. Your not wrong.

DarXyde798d ago

Sunset Overdrive makes very good sense. Palworld might.

Don't know about the others. Hellblade II does make sense given the original launched on PS4 first. Quantum Break was a massive letdown for me. I absolutely hated the whole TV show thing and I don't think anyone should have to relive that on modern hardware.

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Now that Remedy owns Control, it’s time to reclaim Quantum Break

Alan Wake 2 studio Remedy Entertainment has reclaimed the rights to Control, and now sci-fi hit Quantum Break deserves the same treatment.

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Petebloodyonion813d ago

Totally agree with that especially when Quantum Break has several references to Alan Wake and Alan Wake make allusions to QB.
I do believe that MS and Remedy can work things out and MS has usually been nice to devs and publishers regarding IP.

Obscure_Observer813d ago

They can't "reclaim" what was never theirs.

Petebloodyonion813d ago

I’m sure we can settle for purchase from MS the IP.

Lightning77813d ago

MS is not doin anything with it. Plus they're doing a multiverse of their own so Remedy needs the IP.

If MS wants to have exclusive let it be timed for 6 months then go to other platforms. MS seems to be, let's say, generous with some if their games as of late.

Or have QB2 be multiplat from the jump, put it on GP. Keeping QB2 as an exclusive is kinda weird these days.

Obscure_Observer813d ago (Edited 813d ago )

@Petebloodyonion

"I’m sure we can settle for purchase from MS the IP."

Good luck

@Lightning77

"MS is not doin anything with it."

Japan Studio is dead nd Sony isn´t doing anything with Bloodborne either! Yet I can 100% guarantee that there´s a far bigger demand for a sequel, remake or even a remaster for that game from both PS5 and PC gamers.

That been said, why don´t you ask Sony tol sell the IP to Fromsoftware now that according to rumors, they bought Elden Ring from Bandai?

ZwVw813d ago (Edited 813d ago )

Reclaim? That would mean that they actually owned the ip at one point, which they never did (MS always has). Apples & oranges. Remedy always owned the Control ip (just not the publishing), as they have with Alan Wake.

About as likely as them getting the Max Payne rights from Rockstar.

mastershredder813d ago (Edited 813d ago )

Sending you game to a publisher does not mean they get "rights to own it " unless that was part of the contract (monetary/ strategic reasons). 505 was the publisher they worked with to publish and distribute it, it dos not mean that 505 flat out "owned" anything, clearly they did have a special arrangement that made them open to limit their publishing rights. and so here we are and big whoop

Jingsing813d ago (Edited 813d ago )

Yeah get Quantum Break PS5, only if you put it on disc with all the associated movie material.

isarai813d ago

I mean they got the Alan Wake IP back from MS, so I feel like they could get QB back as well

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