@dc

How would that bode well for PC titles hitting the XBO? Wouldn't it be the other way around? If you are certain that Xbox is the lead platform then that means it was ported to PC & not vice versa, so that would only bode well for more XBO titles being easily ported to PC & nothing to suggest the other way around.

Also I don't personally subscribe to this entire idea about the PC idea coming late in the game...if you believed that then you'd have to believe that it happened after Phil mentioned that it wasn't likely at Gamescom, which means the PC port happened in 4-5 months. I'm no dev but that sounds awfully fast to me & highly unlikely.

I've seen what happened to Halo 5. I will wait till game launches for final version rather than bullshots.

JB just read some of the articles on this story and listen to major nelson podcast. They tell you you it was announced so late because they didn't think the PC version would be caught up in time. They specifically mentioned not wanting to do certain things because the console version was already over a year into development when PC was started iirc.

It bodes well for Xbox and PC if PC was started so late and was able to catch up. That means having everything done on Windows 10 allowed them to re-use a bunch of the code. If most of the code was usable like they've been saying for the last couple of years it means it will be easy to make games available on both platforms cheaply. If you make a game with a 30 million dollar budget and can add an Xbox version for a million more only an idiot doesn't make the Xbox version. Selling three or four million additional copies and making over a hundred million on a one million dollar investment leads to a prosperous company.

Exactly, DC. Win 10 is an ecosystem where coding for multiple platforms is drastically reduced which means porting from PC to XB1, or vice versa, is much easier. Obviously there is some work involved, but it is reduced to weeks instead of months in part because of the reasons you mentioned. The ease of porting code has been talked about by MS on several occasions already.

Isn't the Xbox One just a PC after all? I bet with some config file changes, the same code can run on X1, PC and PS4. I remember the witcher 3 had a folder for each platform in the installation files.

Dude....this game right here. I never owned or "wanted" to own a Xbox console(team Japan 4evAR!), but....

Quantum Break?
ScaleBound?
CrackDown 3?
Rare's Pirate game?

man...pretty tempting =D

^Those games coming to PC. No reason to own a Xbox. If you need help I charge $10 a hour if you want me to help you build a PC remotely. I know most of you console guys don't know how to make one.

The lighting on the 2015 version is better, that's why colors look different.

@mikeslemonade

"^Those games coming to PC. No reason to own a Xbox."

I'm honsestly clueless if there will be physical copies of the exclusives being sold on pc.

I remember in the beginning everyone was really upset about the whole drm thing and wanting to be able to have the option to buy and sell physical discs. So wouldn't that be a reason for those people who feel that way to own an xbox1 instead of a pc to play the games?

I will wait till game launches for final version rather than bullshots.

You will never even boot up the game, you just spend all your time trolling Xbox articles... Do you even own a PS4 I wonder, or just sit on internet while drinking mikes lemonade??

@jb227 ---> DX12

"Turn 10 Studios has already ported their Xbox One launch title Forza Motorsport 5 to DirectX 12, using a four man team that took four months to get the game running on an PC using NVIDIA graphics at 60 FPS"

http://www.neowin.net/news/...

@lack
Exactly.
SOME people are so engulfed in windows 10 games going from xbox to PC, where in fact its an ecosystem Micro are building.

People also need to remember that the pendulum swings both ways.
Devs will now devote a miniscule amount of time and resources to port their games to xbox from PC with minimal time and huge margin profits awaiting.

Like everyone else, Devs are in it for the money like anyone else, and IF its as easy as stated, then Xbox/PC will be a huge target for Devs.

Good times ahead for all gamers.

Lead is on Xbox One of course, since PC wasn't even started on until after August of 2015.

That said, kudos to MS for consistently putting out insane news. First, EA Access comes to Xbox One, then monthly feature updates on Xbox One, then E3 rolls around and we get BC and Crackdown 3 cloud based physics.... fast forward and now we got cross-buy for the same price as a regular game!!!

At this relentless pace, the end of this generation is going to be insane for Xbox One owners!!!

Have they said yet what's is the max resolution and Fps of the Windows 10 edition?

IT would have to be XONE as I believe the PC version was made after the fact and not first or during the whole development so that is very unlikely its PC, but XONE leading in development.

@LackaJaKane

Thats a great point. And also doing it like this gives people options. Instead of forcing people to go one way.

@Lacka

1. The demographic of people who are anal about owning the physical copy is small.

2. There is physical copy. I saw a Doom preorder for the PC that has a physical copy. They exist.

Moreover any reason to own a X1 is weak. You have no big factors on why people should own a X1. Maybe they keep the core exclusive like Halo, Forza, and Gears exclusive but those are getting boring to most people.

@Mikes

"The demographic of people who are anal about owning the physical copy is small."

LMAO what a load of BS, You're delusional.

I don't think Alan Wake will take 5-6 years. Remedy already had a working build of Alan Wake 2 before it got greenlit by Microsoft and Sam has plenty of ideas already thought out for it. Quantum Break looks to technically complex hence why it took so long to develop.

I just played alan wake on pc, with all settings maxed out. For an old game it looked great.

Gotta disagree...the Gamescom build is obviously superior in every aspect...granted a YouTube comparison is nearly pointless but even in this low res video there are obvious differences. I don't see more colors in the newer build, I just see a blue filter that essentially pulls all of the bright vivid color out of the original build, the lighting effects are significantly decreased & shadows are nearly non existent. It honestly looks like they applied a blue filter to either hide a lot of the lesser aspects or the use of the filter diminished their effects drastically...the jacket looks like real leather in the first build but like a flat vinyl in the new one, the bullets hanging in the air during the time manipulation have lost their clear tail effects, the actual time manipulation mechanic has lessened it's use of particles.

The game still looks great & I'd hold off until release for judgment anyway even beyond the fact that this is a poor quality video, but the differences are striking & apparent even in it & I honestly don't see how anyone can see any different. It's not about personal taste for visuals, it's about the actual effects & techniques in place, and they are obviously decreased here. This is not a minor drop, it is extremely noticeable to my eye...regardless of whether or not anyone cares about a downgrade from Gamescom to now, it can't be argued that it isn't readily apparent.

Seems obvious to me: the video on the left is indicative of the PC version, the video on the right is the XBO version.

I can't handle the thought of Alan Wake 2 with these graphics... gaming heaven

Remedy are perfectionists... They don't half ass things.

Alan Wake 2 is a definite 5-6 year dev time.

They'll take all the time they need and despite having a playable demo doesn't mean they won't start from 0.

They'll probably use the same world builder as AW with a few edits. But if anyone thinks Remedy will rush Alan Wake 2 you're surely mistaken.

@Opie

Well said. Sam Lake and his team are super talented. I'm going to take my sweet time playing through this beauty. The storyline looks like something i'm going to really enjoy also have you seen the cutscene where jack brother gets killed? ha.. I keep going through that scene over and over again.. Damn. :)

Well I have them all and I agree, the xbox one is the better console this generation by far. Better controller, network and most importantly games.

@raymantalk1. So because i think the x1 has a better experience i don't own a ps4.
To sum up my reasons. I prefer the xbox controller. The xbox allows me to download apps from the us and other countries that are not available to me simply by changing my country settings. I can use amazon usa etc and i can't do this on my ps4. It also has more available apps.
I dont own a 360 but i now get to pay 360 games. As for gaming the advantage of the ps4 is its gpu so 900p vs 1080p. I own a pc so can play all xbox one games at 1080p 60fps by streaming it. This also means if my tv is in use i can still play xbox one games.
The ps4 is a great console, its just not my no 1 choice.

I want all u xbox fans to tell me exactly what makes the xbone the best console like really cause i don't see it

@rayman, um not even close. I know what's available on both systems. I'd like a ps4 for bloodborne, and to a lesser extent, uncharted. But most of the exclusives are lackluster TO ME. I even pointed out in my original post there is just not enough reason for me to purchase a ps4. I have had roommates who had itit, I used it. The problem is the exclusives don't justify it to me. And there is more diversity then I could have imagined on Xbox, there might well be for ps4 as well, but the Xbox one has almost every game I could even want to play these days, along with there games for gold are all about diversity.

More like MS begging to put their games on PlayStation.

Keep begging Sony gamers!