"Cross buy and cross save? Highly doubt it"

Urm.....Yes, Sony has been doing it for ages

"No company out there is focusing on gamers like Microsoft is and that's a fact."

That is the most uninformed statement that anybody can make, do you honestly think Sony would have a 20 mill+ lead if they weren't focused on gamers?

Edit: @ShadowKnight above

Absolutely right, i forgot about that.

Completely agreed the slowness must be extremely real with some people crossplay if something that's been done with Playstation 3.. I mean where the heck did you guys think the term even came from?

What's even more humorous is those that keep making it sounds like cross-buy is this brand new concept I just can't stop laughing so you're telling me you never knew Playstation 3 and PSP had crossbuy?

The ps4 currently has it along with PS Vita? I mean this seriously has to be a joke.

Their infrastructure is so vast that it even feasible to have cross buy with PSP ps3 PS Vita and PS TV.

I'm happy that Microsoft is embracing the concept but people please let stop being ignorant and pretending like we didn't know this existed before and if some of you guys really are uninformed look it up before making it seem as if its brand new find out if it actually is in the first place.

If I'm not sure about something I merely google it before posting it like it's some fact.

Vita isn't a console and Windows 10 is on many more devices than there are Bits users.

I think it's an underutilized feature, even from Sony itself. Started off strong, then fizzled out into the indie releases realm, with cross save being about the only thing that remains for the bigger titles.

In a years time, the idea of cross save, and cross buy, is going to be about as much of a talking point for MS as it was for Sony after a year...which is to say that no one is going to talk about it. I can't imagine publishers are suddenly going to start supporting it now, or at least do it for the long term once the wow cool factor dies away...going by history at least.

Not saying people don't use or care about the feature, just no one talks about it, and apparently, many people are unaware that Sony has had this for I think 3-4 years now.

@343

Of all those devices, maybe 2 of someone's devices will support high end games. The vast majority of people will only have one device. This will likely be mostly supported by smaller indie titles, like it is for most cross buy games on the PS branded consoles. Cross save is more ubiquitous in games that are on multiple Sony platforms...but it's rarely used as a selling point, because it turned out to be not that big of a selling point after the initial reveal.

I'm not sure why people ignore history to think MS implementation will somehow be the knees bees just because Windows is on more devices....because that assumes that more people have multiple Windows devices...when most have no more than 2. I actually have 4 Windows devices, PC, Laptop, phone, and X1, and I hardly care about the feature because I only play games on the console, and occasionally the PC. I, and I imagine most people, don't play their games across multiple platforms anyhow.

It's a great feature, won't deny that, but be realistic about it's impact on the market.

The XB1 version of Quantum Break comes free with a PC version so why not play on both? If it is not and both are released on the same day, I will definitely get the PC version only like I did with all my previous third party titles.

So what I am saying is I wish future games from MS that are Windows 10/XB1 like Halo Wars 2 and Sea of Thieves also follow this path as it gives value to gamers that owns a XB1 and PC. Doesn't matter if I only play 10% of it on XB1 and 90% of it on my PC rig.

People like Digitalraptor, once again is leeching on another person's comment Instead of making his own original post and try to assassinate my character with such nonsense as "he is NOT a serious PC gamer" and posting a link that is not even close to what I am talking and referring about. LOL, I do understand though as I did embarrassed and exposed him time and time again so he is out on revenge on me but none of what he is trying to proof makes any sense. But Keep up the good effort, digital, as it is somewhat entertaining. LoL

"Right from the get go, you want to play on the machine that gives you the best graphics and fps."

Some people may just want to then kay down on the couch and relax and play on console. Ultimately it gives you options and that's great, no?

@Digital
"So this is basically MS drawing you in with buzzwords, like GFWL all over again"

Ugh give it a rest. You've somehow twisted this as a bad thing for PC gamers?... Smh

@septic

"Some people may just want to then kay down on the couch and relax and play on console. Ultimately it gives you options and that's great, no?"

What? Do we live in the dark ages or something? My gaming rig is attached to my TV in the lounge, where i can sit comfortably on my couch playing PC games using a DS4. Not all PC gamers play there games hunched over thier desks in darkend bedrooms and basements.
Sure options are good, but why would you want to limit your game experience on an inferior machine when just meters away in the same building, is a machine that plays the same game but at a higher level of graphical fidelity, higher resolution and higher framerate.

Crossbuy would make much more sence if the Xbox was a handheld device, play on the handheld away from home, then carry on on the PC at home, i just dont see serious PC gamers with good rigs ever using crossbuy.

@SniperControl "...why would a serious PC gamer want to downgrade his/her user experience buy playing the same game on a inferior machine that is sat some 10 meters away in your own home".

Great Question!

Easy answer is ...not everyone who claims to own a Gaming Proficient PC, actually owns a Gaming Proficient PC.

*Pointing No Fingers /

@thatpsguy

Just to cover my ass, i have talked alot about my gaming rig over the years on here, just take a look at my comments, in fact i just ordered a Gtx980ti for it.

Lol.

However, i do agree that there are trolls on here claiming to suddenly have ultra spec PC's.

@ Rookie

Get over yourself and your egregious claims. What part of my comment is "leeching" off another? It's called discussion. Last time you claimed this I owned you, because I proved how I brought original information to the discussion, whilst you were trying to squirm your way out of what you actually said that people were calling you out on.

Here I am again, bringing NEW information that you obviously have not made yourself aware of. Sorry buddy, but none of which I said there is in any way made up. And none of it is in any form of questioning different to the kind of thing SniperControl was asking of you.

My point being, MS is yet again creating closed-platform restrictions on an open platform and middle-fingering the PC gamer audience who value more than MS bothers to offer them, despite their promises. Your comments that deal in sweeping real information under the rug just to try and expose me, make me laugh equally as much. Whether you value the same things as other PC gamers seem to do is not the point. It's just extremely odd to me that you would bother with PC gaming and praise this if not for those same values. Just like Sniper was asking of you in regards to graphics and fps.
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@ Septic

"You've somehow twisted this as a bad thing for PC gamers?"

Twisted... yes Septic.... "twisted". I somehow post a list of FACTUAL restrictions, similar to what GFWL also represented and that MS has always represented in the PC gaming arena, and somehow, I've twisted it.

Apparently the restrictions of the Windows 10 Universal App is NOT the antithesis to the reasons why people choose to game on PC rather than closed platforms, at least according to you. The only favour MS has done is dumped the game on the Windows 10 store and said "if you buy the XB1 version within a set amount of time you can download the W10 version for free". Their PR doesn't manage talking about the limitations they've created for PC gamers, yet again. Why would it? But of course, why would I expect you to do anything but bury your collective heads in the sand to damage control a bad scenario for PC gamers and why it is they game on an open-platform.
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@ Sniper

Yep, I had this conversation with someone yesterday about how they could simply adjust and setup their PC rig into a comfortable living room setting. At this point, if you can do that with your PC and 99% of the games are the same.... and you also have a substantial PC rig, then why bother with an Xbox, for real?

Just a matter of time friend - just a matter of time.

Phil Spencer in an interview last year said that Quantum Break would not be appearing on PC, and snap to a few months later, it's announced. That is sales bait and switch at its worst. The people working for this company are liars. If they tell you anything, they are likely not being honest. They tell you, a game is not coming to PC, you have no reason to believe them.

Xbox brand of consoles has been diluted by PC interests. Xbox as a platform in the future is going to be 99.9% multiplatform, which is embarrassing, especially so for those who have been quoted as valuing exclusive games as reasons to own hardware, and those partaking in the list wars for so long.

@Hunkaloverbear + 54m ago
"More reason to buy an xbox now then any console"

For me its also

More of a reason to buy a console for its exclusives like buying a PC for its Exclusives, which PC's exclusives now seem to include the Xbox console itself.

Included with every Windows10 PC, I mean it even play's Xbox one games now./s

Windows 10/is an Xbox now.:D

Where as in the case of Sony's PlayStation I need to have the PS4 to play Media Molecules :Dreams & Nintendo's system to play the new zelda.

@joeorc

Really hard to make sense of your comment, but from the jist of it(i may have gotton it completely wrong), it sounds like you are saying every PC exclusive will be crossbuy on X1?

Sorry to burst your bubble bud.

@Hunk
I feel like Im back to reading George Orwell again with your comment X)
Joke aside if your happy thats cool. Im happy a few of my friends can play those games on their PC and everyone is happy :)

You have an odd definition of winning. May be too soon to count them out, but right now, at best, one could maybe argue that MS has a fighting chance to somehow make a comeback. Others could reasonably argue that MS is actually going to hurt actual console sales...although I find most of those argument to be exaggerated.

Unless you intend to use PC releases as a metric for who won the console war.

I guess I'm really curious on your metrics for determining a winner. That'd make it easier to discuss.

More like MS begging to put their games on PlayStation.

Keep begging Sony gamers!