Hardly, it's one of the main reasons I haven't bought the new Mortal Kombat or Destiny

Put it this way....you don't see the post from the folks disagreeing, likely because they don't know enough to actually say against it.

It seems to be an assumption on what they "think" dlc all is.

With this idea that it would be better with "no" dlc as if that means the games would just come with the content that would be selling as DLC as free in the game.

That is like saying if I had a value meal that had a Burger, Fries and a drink, that if I sold a new sandwich on the side, that it would be assumed that if this new menu didn't exist....it would also be free with the meal, ie a Burger, fries, a drink and the new sandwich.

Just like any other business that contracts work out...they MUST BUDGET, the people who make those games need to be paid and they are only paid based on what they do.

To pay for them to make MORE content, is to also lose money IF that content is to not be charged or put on a separate budget. Games factually take more money to make and actually make LESS MONEY then years prior.

http://www.ign.com/articles...

Games generally get bigger and longer each installment, not shorter. Thus...how can one claim "cut content" or DLC shortening a game when many games are just the opposite?

Skyrim, bigger then,longer than Oblivion
GTAV, bigger then ,longer than GTAIV
Mario Kart 8, bigger then,longer than Mario Kart Wii
Smash Bros Wii U, bigger then,longer than Brawl
Arkham Knight, bigger then and longer than any other Arkham game.

....all have DLC. Thus...by default they are already larger, yet still have post launch content, thus your only getting MORE with DLC as the games have MORE by default.

http://www.vg247.com/2015/0...

http://www.gamercenteronlin...

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

The reality is...all this talk on "when" dlc is worked on or if its "concurrent" with development or after...means very little.

You nor I own the IP. Those that own it are free to have other teams working on DLC WHILE the main game is being worked on, they budgeted for a certain game at $60, they also budgeted for extras as well.

They can't afford to just put all that in a game for $60 and then have a whole team making more content for free. Either the team isn't getting paid or the publisher is making content for free.

Would you work for free? Would you being a business owner hire workers to create free content? It makes no business sense. At the end of the day, gamers are getting MORE with each game, with or without DLC, you are buying what they are offering, you are not buying ALL that the team created.

That is like saying when the Tekken Team made Smash Bros, they owe you Tekken 7 too as the worked on it during Smash Bros development.

Wait? Are you buying the game, or everything the team put their hands on? How is any post launch content yours based on being worked on during development? What if they made a sandwich during a lunch break...that yours too? It just sounds like entitlement. People are mad because they are not getting something for free and others get a longer game because they PAYED FOR A LONGER GAME.

I agree with your statement that over hype is what's killing games. Games like titanfall and destiny would have been a bit better if their respective publishers didn't try to make their games sound like they were so revolutionary. They got their messaging messed up, which is another major problem. that's why 2014 was such a "blah" year. As for 2015 I have hope with games like bloodborne, witcher, and hell splatoon (I'm having a blast with that game) I think this year is going to be better.

Yep. It's almost like the industry has selective amnesia and can't remember the what caused the gaming crash in the 1980s... Rushed/buggy games and terrible pricing decisions led to consumer distrust - then the ass fell out of the market for two years. I don't see how the current situation of spending gazillions on a game to the point that you need it to be a blockbuster just to get your money back, coupled with gouging on DLC and bug's everywhere is dramatically different.

Right, MK8 is a COMPLETE game worth full retail price. You could pre-order 2 dlc packs for 8 bucks, that included 16 new tracks and extra charecters, karts, etc.
Now I think its $11.99.

12 bucks for adding soooo much more content is fantastic.

I wish Sega would have added even more tracks via DLC for All Star Racing, I love that game. Its not as pretty as MK8, but it is allot of fun. Probably Sega's last good game.

GT6 is a perfect example of a better DLC model.

It's broken and unfortunately poorly supported. Some of us, longtime members, are still here and enduring this painful experience

Info is here. Got posted earlier today.

https://n4g.com/user/blogpo...

I've been getting nonstop Runtime Errors for almost a year. This website is borderline unusable nowadays.