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Xbox One GPU Has 8 Graphics Contexts, Uses Multiple GPU Command Streams To Reduce CPU-GPU Latency

"Both commands pass through the GPU simultaneously which allows to have two parallel processes of compute and rendering work, which share the same bandwidth resources."

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josephayal4157d ago

The X1 is def one of the most advanced machines on the market

sinjonezp4157d ago

I keep reading these articles yet when I'm playing games like far Cry 4 and it hurts my eyes because of the frame rate and low Resolution, I just can't agree yet. I like the Xbox one for all it does, but it's not a tech marvel.

halfblackcanadian4157d ago

Fighting fire with napalm doesn't work either. It hurts your eyes due to frame rate and resolution? Calm down. It looks fine on Xbox One, a little better on PS4

Dudebro904157d ago

Its runs at the same resolution and frame rate on Xbox one and ps4...

gfk3424157d ago

@Dudebro90

Far Cry 4 is not equal on X1 and PS4. PS4 runs at 1920x1080, while X1 runs at a lower resolution of 1440x1080 (it is the equivalent of 900p).

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

sinjonezp4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

Halfblack

You miss the point . I said I like the Xbox for what it does, but realistically , it's not a device that outputs great visuals. When you have a game like far cry 4 running sub 1080p and the frames drop into the teens , that's a problem. Once again, I LIKE THE XBOX ONE, it's just not some tech marvel and all these articles talking about what gpu boost and cup boost, if that's the case, why most games can't run 1080p? Or why the frame rate is terrible? Good system but I think these articles give false hope. Just an opinion but at the same time u cannot deny what is shown on screen

harrry4157d ago

yeah man, me too. my eyes burn. wish i got a ps4 so the leaves i run past look ever so slightly rounded.

Pogmathoin4157d ago

The Whoosh of those leaves look better in 1080p.

Eonjay4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

GPUs are parallel processors so this all really makes sense. And it sounds really similar to what we know about GPGPU. It's not free as it reduces bandwidth, and graphics resources in just the same way it does on the PS4.

This confirmation what many have long suspected: the architectures of both are more similar than different; with tweaks and processing power being the only real difference.

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Ch1d0r14157d ago

Do you wear glasses? If your eyes are hurting then get them checked, dont blame on the xbone.

andibandit4157d ago

"it hurts my eyes because of the frame rate and low Resolution"

Diva much?

nveenio4157d ago

How's that working out for you, Xbox?

At least with the PS3, Sony had some awesome first-party devs cranking out masterpieces (graphically). But as long as Xbox can bring out some solid gameplay, I don't think people should be too concerned.

Locknuts4157d ago

Play on PC. That the only way to get the proper Far Cry experience. It needs to be played at 60fps.

fr0sty4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

"It was also revealed that the console supports multiple GPU command streams which consists of instructions for rendering and compute. Both commands pass through the GPU simultaneously which allows to have two parallel processes of compute and rendering work, which share the same bandwidth resources. This results into a low latency exchange between GPU and CPU. However we are not sure whether developers can explicitly push one task type ahead of the other or whether the GPU automatically prioritizes the queue elements."

If I remember correctly, this is referring to the 2 asynchronous compute engines that Xbox One has, each of which can handle 4 elements in queue at once (again, IIRC). PS4 has 8 ACE's, and as such can handle 64 elements in queue at once.

Also: "which share the same bandwidth resources"

This is where XO will choke vs. PS4 when running GPU compute. In addition to having 56 fewer sources of compute at any given time due to the 6 fewer ACE's, it also is already bandwidth starved even without the GPU doing compute functions, due to the low bandwidth DDR3 RAM. This is why Ubisoft's GPU compute tests did so much better on PS4.

Also, if you're going to disagree, make a post explaining why... otherwise you're just saying "I disagree, but I don't know what I'm talking about."

DarthJay4157d ago

Damn man, how do you even have any vision left after all the other generations that came before? If Xbox One games are hurting your eyes, you should go see a doctor.

Maxor4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

There is no such thing as a 1080p tech marvel. The very term, 1080p, implies average. To be a marvel the hardware must be capable of resolutions beyond that.

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madmonkey014157d ago

it is very true, it is the second most advanced console on the market, quite incredible.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4157d ago

Yeah it's right behind the plethora of modern day pcs which absolutely destroy it in every aspect.

Ripsta7th4157d ago

This i agree with, but both Ps4 and X1 are much easier to set up and maintain than a pc.
All you have to do is plug in and play

Audiggity4157d ago

I'm a huge PC gamer, but also own consoles, comparing them apples to apples isn't fair. It's like having a showdown between a WRX STI and a Mitsubishi Evo, then adding in a modified Nissan GT-R and saying "See? I told you the illegally modified GT-R was faster!"

Of course a well built PC will smoke a console.

However* I will say that there is something rather inexcusable regarding the recent gen consoles. We're on the cusp of display moving into affordable 4K resolutions... and the XB1/PS4 can't properly handle 1080P at a solid FPS (aside from a handful of games). This should not have happened.

Expect a mid-generational console re-release with a strong trade in incentive come late 2016.

XB1.5 and PS4+ with heavily upgraded GPUs to actually handle games at proper resolutions/FPS.

Certainly not 4K... but, 4K video? Perhaps.

Toolster4157d ago

Well we're not taking about PC! PC fan boys really get my goat having to comment that PC are better at every chance

Death4157d ago

@Toolster,

If it makes you feel better, this is an Xbox article and PS fanboys are here commenting the Playstation is better like they do whenever they get the chance. Funny how that works.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4157d ago

To reply to all of you, yes, consoles are much more 'pick up and play' lol. I completely agree, hell I have plenty of consoles at home, even this 'gens' consoles.

I'm just saying, calling it 'most advanced' or anything would be a major overstatement.

fr0sty4157d ago

@audiggity, PS4 handles 1080p just fine, only a handful of games have framerate troubles at that resolution (vs. their targeted framerate), so you have it backwards there.

JackBNimble4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

Yeah it's right behind the plethora of modern day pcs which absolutely destroy it in every aspect.

I love how people generalise the PC as if every PCgamer owns a high end pc. The fact is most PCs are mid to low range and only a select few PC gamers actually can say that they own a high end gaming rig.

Sure you can upgrade but is t worth it? For some sure it's worth it but for someone like me it's not. I have a first gen i5 cpu and a 7770 amd gpu 1 gb gddr5 and 8gb ddr3. The Xboxone would out preform my pc as it is right now.
For me to upgrade I may as well start from scratch and build a new rig , which I am not going to do because my pc works just fine.

So I guess PS4 it is.

Toolster4156d ago

@Death

That's true also, I can't stand all the fan boys stuff, choose whichever console has the games you prefer and be happy with your choice.

I'm lucky enough to have both and I enjoy playing both consoles, I don't buy into all this my console better than your ect

Just play your games and enjoy

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CryofSilence4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

To make this statement correct, you would need to make it "one of the most advanced consoles on the market." Most gaming PCs made in the last few years are already more advanced (the one I just built is over twice as powerful as the PS4, and when I SLI, it will be ~4 fold in power). Does that make the consoles irrelevant? Certainly not. I plan to get one or the other eventually.

r2oB4157d ago

It's over twice as powerful and probably cost about 3-4 times as much. Everything comes at a price.

CryofSilence4157d ago

Price wasn't at question in this context. Gauging advanced hardware was.

r2oB4157d ago

@ cryofsilence

I guess it's a matter of perspective. What constitutes advanced hardware? Is it just being more powerful or being more efficient? PCs can be more poweful, IF you put enough money into them. But they are hardly as efficient as consoles for gaming, which is why they are not as optimized and require brute strength to get results.

So to me price is always relevant to this context because it speaks to how affordable, efficient, and optimized my gaming device is. If I can get PC like quality at a fraction of the cost, that's pretty advanced to me. Perhaps more so than just shelling out money for more power to run things with brute strength.

Reaper29r4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

r2oB try $800-1000. Tops, and that's a fully built system. For 2-3x the performance. You console only guys always talk out your rear about something you've probably never even had. If you don't don't care for PC Gaming that's fine. It's doing great without you. Always has and always will. But spare those of us who do know all of your non sense. There are constant hardware updates that keep improving performance. And the games require beefier hardware because they have to render more detail, LOD, physx, higher res (1080p is standard bro), more frames, more characters. I could go on. Just look at the cuts they are having to make on planet side 2 for PS4. Are consoles bad? No. They suit a particular type of gamer, mainly those prefer the more relaxed living room set up and/or are or on a budget. Reasons vary. And I don't approve of PC Gamers that go to console articles just to bash them. But to say they are equal in graphics/perforomance is like a mustang is equal to a Ferrari.

OverdosedWitDopeness4157d ago

@reaper actually its more like $1000 minimum.Considering Cpu,motherboard,Case,case fans,PSU,os,HDD,ssd,ram,DVD drive,mouse keyboard, CPU cooler,video card for a pc that will out perform consoles by alot for someone thats going from console to PC, with parts ordered from newegg.

CryofSilence4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

I spent $1350 for these components (not bothering with brands, but they are reputable):

16 GB DDR3 RAM
4 GB GDDR5 GTX 970
2 TB HDD (SSD later)
Core i7 4770
DVD drive
Motherboard
Mid tower
WiFi card
750 W PSU
Extra case fan
24" LED monitor
Windows 8.1

It goes without saying that I spent a lot more than a console, but I wanted a top tier computer that can multitask on multiple monitors on top of it. I could have saved a lot of money by going with AMD/ATI CPU/GPU, but they do not perform as well as Intel/nVidia options.

fr0sty4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

You lost all credibility when you claimed that SLI'ing your system will yield a 2x increase in power... No SLI/Crossfire setup yields a perfect double in GPU performance... not even close.

CryofSilence4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

Frosty, you should acquaint yourself with the symbol "~," which means approximately. When something over twice as powerful in single becomes approximately 4 times as powerful in SLI, that shows that I implied a diminishing return, which benchmarks confirm with about a 1.8x performance gain. My credibility remains intact, not that it pertains to the point in the slightest.

Edit: confirmed

http://www.guru3d.com/artic...

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joefrost004157d ago

One thing you all are forgetting is the certain effects in the PC and x1 version thats not present in the ps4 version

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen4157d ago

SMH

Graphics contexts?

LOL

Taking into consideration that most, if not all programming languages have graphics contexts, how is this a game changer? Seriously?

How is this in any way related to the Xbox One hardware?

Who ever "leaked" this must really think people are stupid.

bababrooks4157d ago

Watch and weep dude......the marathon is about to begin!!!!! People who jump on the bandwagon tend to fall off ;)

DLConspiracy4157d ago

Is this what you meant by "I never downplay Xbox" in articles?

I don't think this article is anything special other than info about how it operates which still does nothing for me. Just information. Depending on who reads it though. It could be threatening.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

@DLConspiracy

If you actually knew what Graphics Contexts were you would know just how unremarkable this article actually is. There's nothing to downplay. The article and this "leaked" SDK (Software Development Kit) document is simply explaining how developers interact with and manipulate the GPU with programming code. There's nothing "powerful" or "game changing" about this AT ALL!!!

Graphics Context are available in C#, JAVA, C++, xlib, ios, vb, Python, and many more, but here I've listed popular programming languages used in the development of graphics intensive software and Graphical User Interfaces.

You see you can't downplay something when there's nothing to downplay. This article and others written about the same subject are only playing on the gullible, naive nature of people looking for sunshine and rainbows where there are none.

Graphics Context isn't even a secret. I'm sure the PS4 uses Graphics Context/Graphics Classes, same goes for the WiiU, smartphone apps, and Games for gaming PCs.

Programming code isn't going to make up for the Xbox One's shortcomings either. That's not downplaying anything, it's the TRUTH.

GameLover564157d ago

I couldn't agree more with you Joseph well said

ScaryMonkey4157d ago

Just not the most advanced console.

modelgod4157d ago

I'm a die hard X box fan and even I disagree with you.

Andofaus4157d ago

There will be so many gamers from the PlayStation side that will refuse to accept that constant articles and rumours about the Xbox One's unique architecture and constant SDK updates from Microsoft will bring nothing positive to the Xbox. Anyone with a little common sense should be able to see that just maybe this is all evidence that Microsoft actually planned for the future when designing the Xbox one. And designed it to fully utilize DX12 and gain all it's huge benefits to hardware utilization/optimization. 2014 was PlayStation's year, 2015 will be the year Xbox one truly reveals it's self.

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frostypants4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

Exactly my own thought. These clowns don't even understand what it is they are writing about. There's nothing remotely interesting or unusual about this. And aren't we well beyond the point of these inane hardware architecture articles? These systems have been out for over a year now. We all know what they are capable of by now. Gamingbolt sucks. They need to be banned from the site.

OB1Biker4157d ago

Well said. and for most articles about Xbox or PS4 .
People take a h of a while to understand...

snookiegamer4157d ago

Look at it this way ...

If it helps X1 achieve better results, that's obviously a good thing. I don't know about coding these systems to make outlandish claim about X1's power.

Devs will always become more efficient with new hardware over time, especially x86 architecture. But honestly, if X1 or indeed any of my other consoles (PS4/Wii U) stayed as they were at launch in terms of the quality of games produced etc ...I feel like I'd still be content with that too. 1080p/900p/30fps doesn't bother me, so much as it bothers those used to high spec PC gaming. CONSOLES ARE NOT PC's!! ;/

2v14157d ago

yet all the games look like crap

lifeisgamesok4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

Ryse, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Forza Horizon 2 and many multiplats like Far Cry, UFC, Call of Duty: AW

Your comment doesn't make sense

thexmanone4157d ago

I`m guessing you are talking about the PS4. Because all the games that I play on my Xbox One look great.

But don`t worry, I`m sure Sony will release a update to help with there games.

Primal4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

Ehhh, not sure if serious... The Ps4 has the superior multiplats with very few exceptions. Just stating facts. Both consoles have great looking games but it's a well known that the PS4 is slightly more powerful.

pyramidshead4157d ago

lol insecure about your xbox games there?

RiseofScorpio4157d ago

Theres nothin "superior" about PS4 multiplats save a few extra pixels so you guys can read the writing on the wall LOL, when many X1 games have better frame rate.

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MCTJim4157d ago

There are indeed things that we all do not know about the X1. If they developed the system with Direct X12,Windows 10 and Tiled Resources etc, then so be it. Any improvement on a console is always welcomed news.

Outthink_The_Room4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

I think DX12 will be a big change. Allowing for more offloading of the CPU to the GPU would open up quite a bit of headroom, on the CPU side.

Efficiency wise, DX12 multi-threading is about 70% better than DX11. So with DX12, you wouldn't need to jam the 1st core for all instruction starters, because all available cores could conceivably push data to the GPU.

Most people don't realize that instructions start on the CPU and are offloaded to the GPU. So if you bottleneck the CPU, you wouldn't be running the GPU at full capacity.

Everyone keeps throwing around the "peak theoretical" Teraflop numbers associated with a GPU. That's like bragging about MPG numbers in a car when in real world application, you aren't ever getting close to the manufacturers numbers.

There is alot more than raw horsepower. Brute forcing graphics means you're going to hit a plateau much faster since you'll tap the machine power quicker.

We'll find out more about DX12 and Windows 10 in a few weeks. I'm curious if they'll show Tiled Resources this January or wait til April for the Build Conference.

bababrooks4157d ago

Logical thinking my man, if this wasn't a war zone your good posts would be debated! Keep the good posts coming my friend.....Logic and foresight is rare my friend😄

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Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle24d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7724d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300030d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7230d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit29d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania30d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit29d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0729d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr30d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box30d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr29d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9530d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7230d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--30d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7229d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket29d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm29d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde29d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9229d ago (Edited 29d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_30d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted30d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit29d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9229d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT30d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers30d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14930d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0729d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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