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Adding Pools To Sims 4 Isn't Easy, Claims EA

The Sims 4 isn't going to launch with pools or toddlers, and people are pretty upset about that. But you know, toddlers are complicated. Makes sense that the developers might want to put that effort elsewhere. Pools, though? They're just water. How hard could it be?

iamnsuperman4299d ago (Edited 4299d ago )

Hold on. The series has had pools since its inception. Why was it taken out in the first place. You made that extra work for yourself for not developing the game from the get go with such a basic feature.

So is it comming at all? Will it cost money? I can't help but think that EA/developers have sliced up the game some more in an attempt to sell more DLC. Either that or they chose a game engine not wholly suited for the sims. I can't decided which sounds worse

-Foxtrot4299d ago (Edited 4299d ago )

I know

These kind of bullshit excuses are things they've already done when we had the SimCity fiasco. Remember all the "We can't do this without DRM" then a few days later you had modders who managed to get it working without it, maybe not at it's best but it showed you it was still doable. Not to mention the total step back with it's missing features.

My favourite quote is this

"The game's engine, as is, simply isn't built to support things like digging into ground or Sims easily moving up and down within it"

The question then is...WHY THE HELL DID YOU GUYS CREATE AN ENGINE LIKE THAT

I mean Jesus bloody Christ, the Sim games have always allowed you to do that when building, it's the type of game it is and it's one of the core building mechanics in the game. What makes someone go "Gee guys, lets build an engine which can't support one of our core gameplay features".

Imagine if someone like Bethesda said

"Guys we've made this new engine for Elder Scrolls VI, however despite how amazing it is you can't cast spells in the game, you can only do it with Staffs, it just can't be done on this engine"

You know what ticks me off the most, the biggest thing they are marketing for this game, like the MAIN feature for the next instalment is...emotions. Think about it, it was the first and main thing they talked about at E3 and even in interviews now. What makes "emotions" in this game so good which makes them big it up into a huge focus, it seems like something they could of done as an expansion pack.

I'd rather of seen a Sims 4 game with better looking graphics, more building tools, more life cycles instead of removing them and other stuff which hasn't been seen rather then sacraficing stuff for a shitty new engine and silly feelings/emotions

Sorry but if you buy this game after their bullshit lies, not to mention their lies with SimCity then you are the reason why the gaming industry is becoming shit and why EA are getting worse.

They should of made Sims 4 the best game ever after Sim City, instead they are trying to screw us over like they haven't learnt anything

Come on Maxis, what's the excuse for no Toddlers because it looks stupid without them

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

RANT OVER :|

iamnsuperman4299d ago

I am no developer but surely they should choose the game engine best suited for the game. Not choose the game engine then try and apply it to the game. The response is crazy and I can't believe they said that

Muzikguy4299d ago

+1 I agree with all of that

rainslacker4298d ago

Being an EA game, wouldn't it be done with Frostbite? Or did they create an engine specifically for this? If so, isn't it likely just a modified SimCity engine...given that it's Maxis? And if so, how hard exactly can it be to add pools to that engine(as far as I know SimCity supports more than 2 axis and "digging" into the landscape), and apply an animation and transform position to the Sims on screen?

This claim is just BS. Stuff like this can be done on any crappy engine out there, no reason it can't be done on whatever sophisticated engine they're using to build this game.

uncharted564298d ago

I 100% back you on this. I like to support the devs but both EA and Maxis are giving the customers middle finger since Sims 3. I bought Sims 3 and some expansions for it but this has turned me off so much that I never bought SimCity and will not buy Sims 4. I will rather pirate it or not play at all then ever give them a dime of my pocket forever.

Raf1k14298d ago

They're just making excuses for pulling it out to make more money by selling it later as DLC or part of an expansion.

This smells of their SimCity nonsense again. Apparently that game couldn't work at all offline and server side processing was needed. We knew that was total BS and were proven right when they ended up creating an offline mode.

SuperBlur4296d ago

i just LOL'ED at the video you posted.. wow ! you know what else you forgot to mention ? Loading! Every time you wanna go elsewhere , be it at the store and go back home , LOADING SCREEN ... i thought we were in 2014 and soon entering 2015 and that loading screen was a thing of the past, they are bringing it back even more

*sighs*

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TitanUp4298d ago

Engine they are using was meant for an mmo from what ign have said in their sims 4 videos.

probably why it seems rushed, ea should have just delayed it.

our_games_are_art4298d ago

True, I'd rather have a delayed game with pools and a toddlers than an incomplete piece of crap. But no they needed a new sims game out this year probably for the holidays

3-4-54298d ago

Sims had pools like 15 years ago.

These dev's suck.

NatureOfLogic_4299d ago (Edited 4299d ago )

Some games are getting downgraded for dlc later. We made it possible gamers. Lets keep pretending that dlc is really just extra content made later for the fans.

MRMagoo1234299d ago

I dont see the big deal, usually when I play sims even if I put a pool in I never use it, its just there because I can put it in.

-Foxtrot4299d ago

It may not be a big deal but it's what it represents....greed, shady tactics and bullshit excuses. Not to mention when we had a similar fiasco with their last game, they should of been trying to make it up to us, not screw is over again

MRMagoo1234299d ago

Its EA tho, when have they ever been decent with stuff ? they dont win worst company for nothing. For them to change they would need the whole company to be new.

Muzikguy4299d ago

I've never been into the Sims games. I can see the bs lies though. I know pools and toddlers were done before. This is exactly how EA works. They love people paying extra for things that should be in-game. They love taking features away to add one or two. And they love lying like they know what's best. "The game's engine, as is, simply isn't built to support things like digging into ground or Sims easily moving up and down within it". EA is going to get torn apart talking like that. Also why I have no faith in EA Access.

rainslacker4298d ago

This also means no basements, or 2nd floors, as it's basically the same principal. A 2D sims game with a 3D view....sounds grand.

If they truly choose an engine that can't support this, then the engine isn't modular enough to support a Sims game. Any decent engine would allow a developer to tool it to do whatever they wanted.

BrandanT4299d ago

When has EA ever put in the extra effort in their games?

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EA Lays Off Staff Across All Battlefield Studios Following Record-Breaking Battlefield 6 Launch

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peppeaccardo70d ago

When logic meets EA it generates anti-matter ..... so try not to apply it in any meaningful way. Entropy is what matters in there !!

badz14970d ago

cue the apologist saying that these are mostly just contractors hired for this specific project bla bla bla

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TTK for BF employees needs adjusting

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Profchaos82d ago

The community warned them this would happen but nope they knew better they continued with the live service push the made the art style cartoonish and this is the result

isarai_lee81d ago

It's always so bizarre when studios announce something super early in development under the suggestion of forming the game to player feedback, and then they push against all feedback heading straight for the cliff while everyone is warning them along the way

badboyz0982d ago (Edited 82d ago )

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Trilithon116d ago

lol ya think? they're sending all that work to the cheaper labor market as soon as possible. and FYI, that labor market has exploded in the last 5-10 years. They have enough people to replace every single job. But honestly, EA is over filled with useless upper management as it is. You could probably trim 25% of their staff with no real loss in production. They aren't gamers, they're business execs. Just look at how many AI related jobs they're already starting to post. Its also hilarious that PIF owns Battle field 6

lodossrage116d ago (Edited 116d ago )

Wait,

The same congress that attacked Lina Khan when she fought the Microsoft Activision purchase.
The same congress that allowed Disney to buy 90% of Fox
The same congress that allowed Liv Golf to buy the PGA
The same congress that sits back while Paramount tries a hostile takeover despite losing the bid for Warner Bros.

NOW, the suddenly cares about doing what's "right" for works? Yeah, right.

thorstein116d ago

No. There were elections and some of the scum were replaced.

TheColbertinator115d ago

Different elections. Different scum. Same results.

rlow1116d ago

i know its a long shot, but i hope this gets shot down.

ZwVw115d ago

EA now owned by The Saudis and Ubisoft to inevitably be owned by China. In hindsight, once EA and Ubisoft started having their financial woes, they should have pulled a Koei Tecmo/Bandai Namco by merging their operations into one.