Star Citizen – Developer Interview

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Alexious4245d ago

It's weird especially because Chris Roberts said last year that they could, in fact, theoretically handle it.

Also, while it is true that the components in PS4 and XB1 are quite old by PC standards, they can be fully utilized unlike any component in the PC environment.

The_KELRaTH4245d ago

Unfortunately with these interviews they often forget to ask "WHY", "BE MORE SPECIFIC" etc etc etc.
Are the comments based on the game for PC specs in late 2015 - 2016?
If so we're looking at a very different CPU/GPU / Memory target ie. Intel's 8 core, GPU's with 50%/80% more power (Nvidia Maxwell 800 series etc) and 16gb of ram was mentioned very early on.
I do agree that in theory it could be run on a console - lower textures, lower various environmental effects etc etc and just like a game that can be played on a PS4 it can also be played on a PS3 however he has mentioned the issues about the constant updates and lack of user accessibility (user world packs etc) but all this is now and it's far to early to predict how it will be in 2016+

DevilOgreFish4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

Alexious- "Also, while it is true that the components in PS4 and XB1 are quite old by PC standards, they can be fully utilized unlike any component in the PC environment."

Even if a console's potential is fully utilized, there's not much separating the two anymore with way better API support and consoles now being x86 based. System requirements shouldn't be too bad for Console to PC games.

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AngelicIceDiamond4245d ago

Considering the fact that Star Citizen gets bigger and bigger every single month. Every month they hit a new milestone with there funding.

Current consoles possibly could handle the game as a whole but absolutely couldn't handle the constant updates and constant size and scale the game constantly achieves on the regular basis.

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ShinMaster4245d ago

I doubt it.

If consoles supposedly can't handle it. Then that means a very limited number of PCs will be able to handle it.

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DOMination-4245d ago

They'll soon change their mind when only 50,000 people buy it on pc and half of them are pirated

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badz1494244d ago

it is kinda a funny thing to say considering there are many, MANY PCs out there that are less powerful than current gen consoles.

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JBSleek4245d ago

Who told you consoles are very powerful??

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JBSleek4245d ago

"Price for performance is amazing."

Agreed yet that wasn't the statement...

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johndoe112114245d ago

Killzone shadowfall, infamous second son, driveclub, the order 1886 and uncharted 4 did.

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Vegamyster4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

@The_Infected

LinusTechTips posted a video showing a GTX 480 could play WD which isn't considered a good PC port at 1080p 30 fps while under clocked, mind you that is a 4+ year old GPU which you can find for less then $150.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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stuna14245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

PC developers have went on record as saying they are powerful! And as all already know PC's are the king when it comes to brute strength, you make it seem like the PC fanbase is made up of strictly all powerful PC's when I'm sure the figure/percentage of PC gamers that have a powerful enough rig to run this game is extremely low also.

What PC does with brute strength, Consoles all but make up for it strickly ease of use, and common and similar hardware that makes gaming across all console comparable.

So I'm Wrong!?

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finals4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

@Vegamyster

And yet my 760 + i7 stutters and screen tears on even the lowest of settings, I've given up till they fix it

Doesn't matter how how smooth the framerate is when the screen tearing makes your eyes bleed and it starts stuttering outdoors.

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Vegamyster4245d ago

@finals

Sounds like your tower has other issues, can't really say what unless i actually saw it, my 770M + i7 doesn't have any issues. Console games get screen tearing too, Nvida is fixing that with their upcoming G-Sync monitors.

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finals4245d ago

@Vegamyster

Your more than right about consoles having screentear for sure. I just assume its Watch Dogs as pretty much every other game I can max out with great frames and close to zero stutter or screen tear ie Witcher 2 without ubersampling, battlefield 3 and 4 with only aa turned down.
I just think its disingenuous to make performance claims when there is plenty of websites and forums that show Watch Dogs has all kinds of problems with a large segment of the community.

Acting like it there isn't issues is not gonna help the problem. IMO

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Vegamyster4245d ago

@finals

Sorry i thought you had those issues in generals, not just for WD. I never said the game didn't have issues, i acknowledged it wasn't a good port in my first comment.

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Rimeskeem4245d ago

Power vs price. Yah consoles are pretty powerful in that ratio

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sinspirit4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

@Vegamyster

And Watch Dogs doesn't compare at all to any game that properly takes advantage of PS4. It was downgraded on every system and unoptimized on PC, I'm sure that this transferred to consoles to a degree as well.

PlanetSide 2 is supposedly running 1080p/60fps and has max settings on PS4. I am sure this is a more appropriate game to compare since it wasn't gimped on any platform and is being properly optimized.

I have been following LinusTechTips for years now and this video was quite ridiculous, and the only video I've thought that about, because they are comparing a downgraded and gimped game that isn't representative of either consoles potential, and there are other proper games too. When GTAV comes out I believe this will be a much more accurate comparison. I'm not saying the consoles are more than what they are but the comparison only took into account the controversial downgrades of the PC version alone. If they downgraded the PC version and strive hard to hide that then they probably gimped the PS4 version as well due to trying to make the console versions equal with each other.

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R-A-S-04244d ago

@finals

Yeah, I have the same issues with my 4770k/gtx 780 pc. W_D is just a spectacularly poor port. I can max Crysis 3 (w smaa x2) and play at 55-60 fps, but even on medium settings W_D stutters like George VI. Total joke...

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wsoutlaw874245d ago

They have stated the are aiming for the highest spec pcs. A lot of pc gamers will need upgrades just to play that game. It was their attention from the start to make a game that pushes high end pcs.

raWfodog4245d ago

I'd like to see what a "fully-developed for high-end PC" space game would look like.

wsoutlaw874245d ago

They are also very pro pc and have some pc fanboy attitudes vs consols. They are trying to be a pc gamers dev

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Alexious4245d ago

Then they will have a very small playerbase. The vast majority of PC gamers doesn't have high-end configurations.

I hope their customized CryEngine scales well.

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PotatoClock4244d ago

@Alexious
Because PCs are going to stay at the same power for the next ten years right?

As time goes on, the latest video cards out now get cheaper. More people buy them and more powerful PCs that can play Star Citizen will be around.

I haven't upgraded my card for 6 years now. The latest multi-plats are still playable for me so I haven't had any reason to. Star Citizen though, that's a whole different ball game.

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JsonHenry4245d ago

The consoles are certainly more powerful than last gen. But the leap in power this time was small compared to previous generations. And the GPU tech inside the consoles were almost 2 years old at the time of launch.

But that is besides the point. Chris Roberts DID say that once the PC version is finished if there was a successful crowd funding for a console version of the game, albeit heavily watered down due to restrictions of the closed platform, he would in fact make a console version of Star Citizen.

And his first public show of Star Citizen dog fighter alpha was shown using an Xbox360 controller hooked up to a PC. So it isn't entirely out of the question but the game would not be the same as it is on PC either.

MelvinTheGreat4245d ago

Actually your wrong, last gen consoles were more powerful at the current time.

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JsonHenry4245d ago

Melvin, That is exactly what I said.

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TheMapleNerd4245d ago

Really powerful?
Ah, so that's why things gets downgraded :o..
Anyway, Star Citizen is really demanding.

Mostafeto4245d ago

yeah Star Citizen is a really great game but not many games got downgraded I know everyone will think Watch Dogs right away as the PC version and Console version have graphical differences that can be seen clearly if the PC is powerful enough to run on Ultra.

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wsoutlaw874245d ago

Downgrades dont exactly prove anything exept you feel short of your origional idea.

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azricf4245d ago

The game is being made with high end pcs in mind. Current consoles are not on even ground with high end pc's. In fact, they are much weaker.

odderz4245d ago

I agree.

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sunginmew4245d ago

5 year old graphic card is more powerful than nextgen consoles lol (GTX 480)

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Chrischi19884245d ago

Compared to a mid range gaming PC, a console is weak. I really dont want to start a "what is better" discussion, but that is a fact, if you like it or not.

Anon19744245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

If my PS4 can't handle Star Citizen, then I know my PC isn't beefy enough to handle it without upgrades. I guess I won't be buying it then. Thanks for the head's up!

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DoctorJones4245d ago

I'm sure he doesn't care if you buy it or not, it's been funded already from people who do want it.

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Anon19744245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

I have no doubt. They've raised an ungodly amount of money on Kickstarer for this game. It's too big to fail which is why, no doubt, they can afford to alienate potential customers by creating a game that needs higher end PC specs in order to run. I can't see that possibly biting them in the ass. But of course, they raised enough money and they, no doubt, are all being paid with gamers money donated even if the game is crap in the end and the majority of PC gamers can't play it. They could sell 1 million copies or one copy. If they don't deliver what have they really lost?

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PotatoClock4244d ago

It sounds like this game has hurt your pride somehow and you can't seem to think in any other perspective but a negative one. You even think the developers actively want to alienate their own customers on PC just because they are building a game that pushes current PCs.

Time passes and more advanced PCs will be available for cheaper than they are now. Hence more of a player base. The game is huge. It is hardly going to be able to be explored and finished in 10 hours.

With the amount of fame it has already, it will become THE game to have on PC and will last for many, many years given its size.

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Anon19744244d ago (Edited 4244d ago )

Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about. How, exactly, does a game hurt someone's feelings? My point is simple. I don't own a high end gaming PC, nor do I intend to purchase a high end gaming PC within the next couple of years. They appear to be targeting the game at high end PC users. That excludes a large portion of the consumer market, don't cha think?

What on earth does pride have to do with anything? I'm a consumer responding to news I'm hearing about a potential future purchase I was considering, which I am no longer considering due to what I'm hearing. Obviously they feel they have enough support with their target audience that they feel they can target a niche section of PC gamers. More power to em.

I hope it works out for them in the end but we already know that win or lose, it's already worked out for them. They're being paid to make a game that may be a complete flop or a runaway hit but thanks to Kickstarter, either way their salaries are paid.

I think they're actively alienating some PC gamers because they ARE actively alienating PC gamers by choosing to create a game that caters to high end PC hardware only. There's no mystery here. They've alienated me and I'm still somewhat of a PC gamer. The costs of upgrading PC hardware next year or the year after is irrelevant.

As for the length of the game, I have no idea how that's relevant either. I can put hundreds of hours into Skyrim now on my PC or a PS3. What does game length have to do with anything? And sure it COULD be the next big thing on PC and be played for years. It also could be a niche title, targeted towards a handful of hardcore PC enthusiasts that never takes off due to it's system requirements being beyond what most PC gaming consumers have sitting under their desks while they ask hundreds of dollars for game "packages" that include different ships. (Seriously. $150? $275 for access to the beta? You realize this is a videogame, right? You know, for $275 the beta had better include a new damn video card so my PC can play the blasted thing.)

I've seen a lot of mmo's over the years claim to be the next big thing. I guess time will tell.

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ion6664245d ago

Uncharted 4 will prove all wrong.Mark my words.

GamingLord14245d ago

Yeah Uncharted 4 will be visually amazing also I see The Order 1886 as a potential PlayStation legend.

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Studio-YaMi4245d ago

Judging by earlier installment in the franchise,Uncharted 4 will be linear.

Not saying that it won't look absolutely amazing,but comparing it to an open world game with graphics like that is hard to achieve.

I don't agree though that Star Citizen can't be done on consoles,with fixed graphics & at 30fps,I think the consoles are more than able to run the game,this is probably just PR to promote their game to as many from the PC community as possible(or hoping they would upgrade) since most(most,not all!) PC gamers game on moderate PCs.

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ion6664245d ago

its just a flashy colony wars. I'm pretty sure ps4 can do empty space.lol

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juggulator4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

So a game that's made over $40 million and hasn't even been released and all of a sudden the current consoles magically can't handle it? Oh wait thats their next stretch goal. Another $1million to bring Star Citizen to consoles$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

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Mithan4245d ago

How could they handle it? Current pc won't handle it maxxed at release. Consoles are about 5 years behind pc's.

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LamerTamer4244d ago

@Mithan

Who says it needs to be "maxxed"? The PS4 could handle the game, it just wouldn't look as good as PC.

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Mithan4245d ago

They are still 5 years behind a pc.

mcarsehat4245d ago

They aren't "PC powerful.

When Chris Roberts said they could, it was because at the time, with the amount of kickstarter money (around 15 million) they could. it is now past 40 million and they have upgraded the engine so much that it has surpassed the new gen of consoles....waaah!

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Magicite4245d ago

You need GTX670 for recommended settings which is far above current console GPUs.

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itisallaboutps4244d ago

I agree if my laptop with a 765m can handle the game at 1080p on low at 24 fps. In sure a ps4 which is an r270x can handle it once optemization is done.

I think they wont bring to Consoles anytime soon is because pc elitist will rage like crazy.

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kingduqc4244d ago

console cpu are really slow and gpu is pretty average..

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Azzanation4244d ago

Any game can come out on any machine. But they want this game to look amazing and not downgraded to hell trying to get it to run. Plus this is a Mouse/Keyboard/Joystick game. Game pads aren't for this and the market for this game is strong on PC only.

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DialgaMarine4245d ago

Ruh Roh, looks like we've got another Crysis on our hands this gen. *wink wink nudge nudge*.

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Alexious4245d ago

It's true that Elite: Dangerous looks better at this point, although Star Citizen still has a long way before completion.

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Mostafeto4245d ago

Yeah it is actually still in early development but the game looks amazing and has a massive universe and trading and pirating THIS GAME IS LIKE A WHOLE WORLD INSIDE YOUR SCREEN :D

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Mithan4245d ago

Yep, probably 2016 for full release.

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elhebbo164245d ago

PC is not bound to 'gens'.

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Trekster_Gamer4245d ago

They could do it if the devs were talented enough to make it work. Sounds like they can only do pc… so screw them.

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JBSleek4245d ago

So when developers say we aren't doing a PC version only consoles are they less talented??

Exactly... Double standards.

elhebbo164245d ago

You're dealing with peasant, they don't understand how things work so its best to leave them alone.

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wsoutlaw874245d ago

I am deeply embarassed for anyone that would refer to someone as a pesant, thats just sad, and hilarious.

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MadLad4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

Because the team behind Star Citizen haven't already proved themselves with what was shown, right?
It's obviously a lack of talent found in the team. Nothing to do with the technical limitations of the latest consoles.

@Alexious

I can't vouce for the game itself. It's far from finished. What was shown certainly proves they are competent developers. More than competent.
To address Trekster's broken logic, any first-party developer in inherently untalented; having never proven they could design a game for another platform.

Alexious4245d ago

Well, I'd wait for a final version of Star Citizen before saying that they have proven themselves.

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mrdxpr24245d ago

Uhh so what are they expecting that the average customer has a $1,000+ computer cause I do . But I'm sure not alot of people do. So that statement doesn't just go towards console gamers but a big chunk of pc gamers who own a pc that is equivalent to ps4

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Bhuahahaha4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

yeah i also think that more than half of pc user dont even have more than a $500 rig.

people do spend more on tablets/smart phones now.

business wise it is not a good idea to focus only on those you have a very good hardware

but screw that they already got millions on kickstarter

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Stapleface4245d ago

The people who have funded the game already knew they were aiming for high end pc's. Or at least I think most of them do. Unless you just threw money at them without doing any research on what was being made you knew that. So I don't think it will be much of a big deal. That 40 mil has already been made and those people already have copies of the game coming to them when it is complete (most funding options include the game). So it's already a success. There are already a crap load of copies sold. With more to come once it's finished and people get to see the final product (if it's what has been promised).

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FUTegyking4245d ago

Yeah the game is bound for success but I guess that it will need a REAL gaming PC in order for it to work properly will set its sales back a little.

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wsoutlaw874245d ago

The game is already a sucess because they have presold a shit ton and have profited way more than enough already to make the game successful. However i feel the game has so many people that funded it for more money than an average game that they have some HUGE expectations. There also has to be, by all stats that are out there, a large amount of people who pledged but dont have pcs powerful enough. Just look at their forums and theres a ton of mystery around it and some worried fans. But it does still have over a year before the full release so everyone still has time. Hey if I had a pc that was close i might start saving but im using my laptop right now and only really use it for rome 2 so no chance.

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elhebbo164245d ago

What are you talking about? the great thing about PC games is that they are not bound to fix settings or hardware, Sure someone running a gtx 470 might not be able to max the game out but the if you truly care about the graphics you can just buy a better graphics card and you are good to go. On consoles you can't do sh*t.

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Anon19744245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

Yeah! If you want to play the game, you should be happy working two jobs in order to pay for an upgraded gaming rig. Nothing wrong with that idea... :)

At any rate, what does it matter to them if they're selling their product to a niche market of PC gamers with uber rigs. They've already all been paid. The game could sell one copy and they still earned a salary for as long as they develop this game thanks to Kickstarter. It doesn't matter in the end how much it sells.

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Alexious4244d ago

Well, you can get an optimized game for your hardware on consoles and be assured that it will run.

On PC you could build an unbalanced configuration and get a subpar experience with the game you wanted to play.

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The_KELRaTH4245d ago

It is worth remembering how this game has come about.
Gamers putting their money up in advance knowing that high PC specs will be required to played it on.

And what seems like very high specs right now will likely be quite moderate by late 2015 - 2016, while console specs are stagnant.

aliengmr4244d ago

they're called graphics "options" for a reason.

Would I be able to max this day one? Nope. But with a few tweaks here and there It will run and look great. Then later on, should I decide to upgrade, I have an even better experience.

I personally like coming back to games after I've upgraded, reminds me of the time when I first put a 3D accelerator in my PC.

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THC CELL4245d ago

Sounds to me the developers can't be bothered trying consoles

ion6664245d ago

i would like to reiterate.its just a flashy colony wars. I'm pretty sure ps4 can do empty space.lol

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TheUltimateGamer4245d ago

Oh... This should start an entertaining flame war. I'll be over here with my popcorn :)

Seriously though, isn't this the second time they've been back and forth on this? I thought they were "theorizing" just last year that this wouldn't be an issue.

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TheBoy4245d ago

Inb4 armchair programmers on N4G disagree.

Bladesfist4245d ago

I'm a programmer by trade, we are not rare amongst nerds.

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ion6664245d ago

be carefull ,They might want your degree ,or better yet your birth certificate to make sure that you're telling the truth.

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Spotie4245d ago

Sadly, not in before people make the ignorant assumption that the only programmers in the world are the ones mentioned in articles like this.

On topic: so what does it say that likely 99% of PCs won't be able to handle the game, either?

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ATi_Elite4245d ago

What many many gamers (consolers and PC Gamers) do not realize is that StarCitizen will be the new "Crysis Effect" Game meaning that PC gamers every where will be required to upgrade their PC's to play it on High or Ultra in all it's GLORY.

PS4/XB1 are using last gen laptop parts OK. (feeling butt hurt then go look it up)

Sure the Ps4 is configured very well and is powerful but the demands that Starcitizen's Network Code, along with Draw distance, along with physics, along with A.I., along with the huge gamer count, not even mentioning Graphics will put a serious hurting on the PS4.

Sure the PS4 in theory can run it but Chris Roberts is NOT making this game for consolers. He's making it for PC Gamers and that speaks volumes.

(Meaning NO LAME Console port with better graphics, StarCitizen is gonna be PC Specific from start to finish)

BOTTOM LINE: why do consolers even care about StarCitizen when they have Naughty Dogg and Bungie and who ever else LOL.

Starcitizen is an awesome experience.

FUTegyking4245d ago

I agree and I can bet you on it that Sony or Microsoft will soon be looking and talking with devs to develop a Star Citizen-like game for their consoles ;) The game is just so glorious for PC gamers that they will tease console gamers for ages about it till consoles get a look-alike.

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Phoenix764245d ago

I think the reason is that there are a lot of people whom have consoles only and miss good space based shooters like the Colony Wars series.
Even though i'm due to get a free Download Code for Elite:Dangerous (kickstarter Backer £20) upon final release, I wouldn't mind seeing a version of both this and Star Citizen ported over to console, but I can only hope though.

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elhebbo164245d ago

Tell'em brother, and Praise GabeN

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Kivespussi4245d ago

It could run on consoles. Just needs a LOT of downgrading

sunginmew4245d ago

my favorite word :)

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Chrischi19884245d ago

Just like most games could be made for Wii U, but no, there it is not possible anymore^^

Wii U is closer to PS4 than PS4 is to a good gaming PC, but whatever.

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SonyMontana4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

It would require downgrading, but I don't think it would be MASSIVE. You can truly code to the metal on consoles which you can NOT do on PC. Anyone who pays attention to the articles that rolls through N4G knows that Sony has been optimizing the development tools quite a lot since launch, and it's still early in it's lifespan. The advantage of consoles is that you can truly optimize the experience and remove layers of taxing code that are required on PC due to the infinite amounts of PC configurations. In other words, on consoles you can do more with less powerful components.

Edit: LMAO at disagrees. Apparently some people know nothing about PC vs. Console.

pandehz4245d ago

Layers, Optimizing, infinite amounts etc are not quantifiable.

Fact is PC hardware from year before last onwards are already significantly more powerful. Even after optimizations I personally don't believe that it would make a large difference.

Yes some games will look as good due to them being linear or closer environment but to want a pc like or close to pc experience its just not possible. I gues smaybe they could downgrade it and lock at 30fps 900p and maybe get it working.

The Witcher 3 will be running at 30fps that too on lower settings. Given time PS4 will be optimized maybe to do slightly better but then the TRUE DEMANDS OF NEXT GEN will come around and devs will make more ambitious games that consoles will not be able to deliver properly.

The consoles are pretty damn good overall but dont expect too much from them. Imagine last gen and keep the expectations parity to that, Games will look good, but pc games will look stellar. With new pc tech that are going to be cheaper and faster, in the coming years many will adopt and then bam pc will be ahead in masses.

Its inevitable as it was in the previous gen and as will be in the future. Consoles are a closed environment and that has advantages but graphical horsepower is definitely one of the disadvantages.

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SonyMontana4245d ago

@pandehz I get that PC hardware is more powerful. No argument there, as facts are facts. My only point is that you can do more with less on console. In 3 or 4 years the PS4 and Xbone will be vastly outmatched in turns of what they can do compared to a PC. However I'm speaking in the present, and the truth is that minus the highest possible frame rates and resolution the current consoles can provide basically the same experience available on PC, and that is due to the road blocks that consoles remove from the equation. So at the present time, I'll respectfully disagree with your comment. 4 years from now, I'll gladly eat my words. :)

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Psygnosis3334245d ago

maybe u are born downgradeD,stop exploiting that word

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Kivespussi4245d ago

It's not exploiting if it's used in the right context. This is a right context.

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elhebbo164245d ago

downgrading textures, models, lighting + 30fps/900p= next gen.

ATi_Elite4245d ago

Well said!!!!!!!!

It could run on consoles, Just needs to be BUTCHERED to DEATH!!!

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CloudRap4245d ago

More like the devs cant handle the consoles

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JBSleek4245d ago

Lol. Yes this dev can't handle old GPUs and tablet CPUs.

Joke.

Chrischi19884245d ago

They cant handle them^^ Especially after everybody went nuts over the new consoles being sooooo easy to develop for, because they are more or less PCs, hardwarewise. Using PC architecture and so on.

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Gr1mmyshadows4245d ago

that sucks. wouldve loved to play this too

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EverydayGuy4245d ago

If Star Citizen is pushing PC's like what the original Crysis did, then I think they are right. Hope with the launch of Star Citizen we can see more exclusives for the PCs that take advantage of its superior hardware.

Becuzisaid4245d ago

Fine. I'll buy Elite then. Thanks for making the decision for me.

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KinjoTakemura4245d ago

PC's couldn't handle Watch Dogs...

pandehz4245d ago

Umm im playing it just fine on my 4 yr old Alien

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JBSleek4245d ago

Ubisoft couldn't handle Watch Dogs.

Ark_4245d ago

lol - good one

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SonyMontana4245d ago

I'd love to play Star Citizen, but I'm not going to build a gaming PC to play 1 game. I prefer my PS4, many will disagree but it suits my needs. I'll live without Star Citizen.

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Shakengandulf4245d ago

Same here, my days of pc gaming are over and no amount of resolution, fps or visuals will sway me back.

FUTegyking4245d ago

I actually started as a PC gamer and since I got my PS4 I haven't opened ONE game on my PC I just see my PS4 as a more capable platform to play and share my gaming experiences.

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Rob_Ko4245d ago

same for me, once you go consoles there's no turning back. it's just easier, and better since all you need to do is buy a game, rest is already taken care of.

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Mr Tretton4245d ago

lol, I 'went consoles' back in the mid 80's. Since I went PC 3.5 years ago (as in, a modern tower, I was PC gaming a bit before that) I will never go back to a console again. It seems absurdly illogical to ever do so, given my 27 years in gaming experience. PC for life.

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Psychotica4245d ago

PC has more than 1 game, so there you go start building..

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SonyMontana4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

True, but Star Citizen is currently the only one I truly care about. The rest are offered on console (plus some exclusives you can't get on PC). I've built 3 gaming rigs in my lifetime and I currently have no plans to build another one. The cost to benefit ratio is to wide a gap. I realize you can make a gaming PC for around the same price of a console, but then your stuck at low-medium graphics and you may as well have just stuck with a console. Not to mention, it would be outdated and won't be able to run the lastest games in a couple years. I'd personally rather put money in my childrens college funds than upgrade a gaming rig every few years, but that's just me.

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iceman6004245d ago

"Star Citizen Dev: Consoles Couldn't Handle The Game"

lol obviously and im not sure my computer will handle it when it comes out in 2030.

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OmegaShen4245d ago

Hear this about Crysis and Planetside 2, yet both look great one console.

Plus look at No Man's Sky,that game really looks better then anything out there.

Mr Tretton4245d ago

Crysis looks like complete garbage on console.

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OmegaShen4245d ago

Says you, it low better then my copy on PC at max. In less you mod it, then no duh it looks better.

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LightDiego4245d ago

Whatever, i prefer to play Kingdom Hearts 3, Metal Gear V, Bloodborne and Halo 5, this developer thinks he is so special and he made only one game, lol.
These pc gamers are a big joke, they complain about ports for consoles, but keep begging for console games on every tooic, just look at Tekken announcement.

Saryk4245d ago

You do understand that most people on this site does not equal to the planetary population?

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Mr Tretton4245d ago

Those games are really gay.

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--bienio--4245d ago

We know that😉 Pc can and Im happy with that!!;)

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Gamer1874245d ago

This site has become the Special Olympics of internet conversation.

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mysteryraz114245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

Looks boring have fun playing this shitty looking space game ill be on uc4 and order1886 you nerds, lol pc gamers are geeks and a disgrace to gamingbget lives,

Ark_4245d ago

Your comment is a disgrace to your constrained mind.

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mysteryraz114245d ago

pc gamers more obsessed with hardware then games thats why you jack off wanting to play this shitty looking space game, seeing these kinda topics come up is a joke just like pc nerds like you are :)

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Studio-YaMi4245d ago

The way you think and blabber your mouth is a disgrace.

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aliengmr4245d ago

Wow, someone's jealous.

Saryk4245d ago

LOL. If you didn't give a shit, you wouldn't be here. End of subject!

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mister_zolos4245d ago

i have both pc and ps4 and like it or not pc>ps4>xbox one and the gap will only grow biger END OF STORY

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Studio-YaMi4245d ago

True,as long as you have the right PC components though...

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Saryk4245d ago

Thats not totally true, partially true depending on your rig. Most good system will last awhile.

I just bought a 290x GPU at a scream of a deal. But I had a 7870 with a 3570K cpu and 16 gigs of ram. And with that last build I would have been fine for a long time and it was built in 2012. But with the 290X, I am flying high!

Ark_4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

Has PC-upgrade written all over it.
My wallets allready moaning.

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Npugz74245d ago

I call bullshit! The game doesn't look too good for consoles!

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OsirisBlack4245d ago

Genuine question as I am interested in this game.... is there any video that actually makes this game look like it will be fun? I am not talking about good graphics I am talking about the game actually looking fun. If so please link it as I cannot find one.

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Festano4245d ago

I find it strange this affermazione.Le consoles are more optimized compared to a PC and consequences of the games will benefit.

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vlashyr4245d ago

They will be less powerful compared to a PC, but with $ 399 I play the great.

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Paul_JC4245d ago

Well there's always Elite: Dangerous. The Dev for that said they were interested in publishing on PS4 and Xbone. If the Star Citizen dev doesn't want extra money from consoles, then so be it.

I'm definitely interested in trying Elite: Dangerous on my PS4.

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Slick814245d ago

Funny how all ps4 guys are saying graphics and fps don't matter in dealing with PC superiority

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amnalehu4245d ago

I think what people is saying is that when paying $399 vs $499 for a gaming console and the more expensive hardware has inferior graphics, it does matter. I'm sure PS4 owner enjoy a pretty game just as much as the next fellow.

On another note, how ironic would it be if Sony buys Crytek. HHHmmmmmm

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ccgr4244d ago

My hubby is looking forward to this and prefers PC anyway :)

Mr Tretton4244d ago

You married the right man.

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Novistador4244d ago

I've never seen so much denial in one thread....

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agame9144244d ago (Edited 4244d ago )

PS4 can't handle it? Tell that to naughty dog. The uncharted trailer which was all gameplay was the best looking game I ever seen in my entire life.

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ATi_Elite4244d ago (Edited 4244d ago )

"PS4 can't handle the Truth and the Truth is StarCitizen"

-----Chris Roberts

*Don't fret young consolers as many PC gamers PC's won't be able to handle SC in all it's glory either as SC is gonna be another "Crysis Moment" in gaming so prepare for these words:

but can it run StarCitizen?

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j0ncap1254244d ago

#rekt

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spektical4244d ago

All the resources in the world can't stop from making a beautiful boring game. See crysis. I have yet to play a game on PC and be downright amazed (storytelling, gameplay, visuals and art direction) . My PC takes everything thrown at and it should it cost me 2k. But unlike all the PC elits I speak the truth when I say that gameplay and graphics need to strike and accord to make a fun game.

On second thought amnesia dark descent is the game that really got me into PC gaming

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