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Kinect on Xbox One “really mind staggering”

The potential of Kinect on Xbox One is “mind staggering” according to Project Spark creative director Henry Sterchi. Speaking exclusively to X-ONE, Sterchi singled out the motion capture potential of the tech as something to look out for.

The big question is, however, are you still willing to give Kinect a chance?

bicfitness4449d ago

Mind staggeringly useless? Three years of software and not a single game to justify its existence outside of an in-home marketing tool.

ic3fir34449d ago

dance central is the best dance game, and kinect sports its good.
Look project spark and D4, the kinect has potential, you need to know to use well, and find the ideal kind of game, but kinect is good to give a few extra games with command

christocolus4449d ago (Edited 4449d ago )

Dance central was so much fun to play with friends especially DC3. Great game..kinect sports was also a fun game.

Ontopic: i agree with this dev. I saw some stuff done with projectspark on youtube just yesterday and i was blown away. A guy used kinect to create a scene from fable ,he made his own animations and stuff then another guy created a car chase scene while another made some dance moves from psys video using kinect. This game and titanfall will push twitch streaming on xbx one and people are going to come up with a lot of great ideas. D4 is another game which gamers need to have on their radar. PS and D4 are just the beginning of whats possible with kinect 2...i believe ms will be making even more announcments at E3.

jmc88884449d ago

Kinect 1 has a few games, that SOME people like.

The vast majority have no interest in it.

What has Kinect 2 brought to gaming?

Couldn't they have simply allowed Kinect 1 to be used for the tried and true DDR, Sports, and Party games that a select few play?

I agree that with creative tools, people will create some fun levels of stuff.

I see it more as a crowdsourcing technique by Microsoft to see if ANYONE can come up with some ideas for a big developer to use in a Kinect game...since they don't really have any.

For the lay person that isn't interested in creating things, they'll have some decent fun like with other games that have user created levels like Little Big Planet.

Just remember Kinect launched in 2010, which means the games were started earlier. Like 2008. Meanwhile, when E3 2014 hits, you'll be seeing previews of games coming out in 2015, 2016, and sometimes even later.

So with two devices, and about 6-7 years of thinking about how to use it from 2008-2014, and extending into what they think they can accomplish by 2016 or even later, hasn't enough time lapsed to where they can show us something worthwhile? Something besides party games, dancing games, or sports games?

Can they showcase a game which doesn't get you beat tired after 10 minutes?

Can they quit pretending that voice controls are only possible with a huge expensive piece of tech?

True_Samurai4449d ago

A guy created some characters doing the gangnam dance recorded by the kinect if that's not innovative than I don't know what is

Studio-YaMi4449d ago (Edited 4449d ago )

Which was buggy & had graphics that looked like a game from 2005,what's so amusing about it,really?

Major_Glitch4449d ago

@bicfitness As someone that actually owned the original Kinect, I whole heartedly agree. Using gestures to navigate the home screen was kinda cool at first, but waving at it to activate it got tedious, and so did the constant gesturing. And the games that came out for it were great...for casual gamers. Dance Central, Kinect Sports were decent fun, but to say they were "great" or "phenomenal" would be a huge stretch. Now MS is throwing Kinect at us again, and just like last time, they're boasting incessantly about it's "potential". No thanks MS. I've seen first hand what you guys call "potential" and frankly I'm not impressed.

SniperControl4449d ago

I spent £150 on kinect when it came out, like you i got bored of it, unplugged it and threw it in a cupboard 6 months later.

I really want to buy a X1, but wont due to the over inflated price it carries due to the kinect 2 being bundled. The X1 has to be around £300 for me to buy it.

donscrillinger4449d ago (Edited 4449d ago )

@ic3fir3 exactly . dance central was Phenomenal and I'm really hoping that there will be an Dc on the One and a Rock Band ,also kinect sports is a very good game both seasons,I can't wait to get my hands on the kinect sport's for the one .all they Need now is just one killer fighting game with very good graphics and dead on body tracking controls on the kinect for the One and I promise they will come the gamers Dat iz ..

InTheLab4449d ago

Still dangling that old potential carrot I see. The only potential there is with dance games and fitness and people are still falling for it.

Volkama4449d ago

The "potential" on something like project spark isn't any kind of carrot. It is evident already from the beta. Project Spark isn't a dance or fitness game.

Also, I like XBox fitness :|

InTheLab4449d ago

Is there another video other than what was shown a few months ago because there was nothing impressive about Kinect on Project Spark.

gamer78044449d ago

I get it, i know hating on Kinect these days is a good way to try to be one of the "cool kids". Lets just keep doing the same things we've always done, and somehow expect much in the way of innovation.

Kinect has lots of fun and useful aspects, if you are a gamer, movie/tv buff, a parent, or interested in staying healthy for yourself or your family.

Just because something isn't interesting to you, doesn't mean there aren't lots of others who do. Keep looking straight ahead, you'll get exactly where you expect to get to, and thats the problem.

Studio-YaMi4449d ago (Edited 4449d ago )

It has nothing to do with being "the cool kids who hate on kinect",the kinect is just a gimmick,same as the the Wii mote,same as the Playstation Move,at least the Wii mote & Playstation move is actually a nice enhancement to gaming,the kinect on the other hand is crap when it comes to playing video games and that's just fact.

Is it innovative? as innovative as the Eye Toy when it first launched,surely the Kinect is much more advanced but that doesn't mean that it's perfect,it's actually FAR from it!

Even the gimmicky voice controls or navigating with your hands,it just gets old and frustrating with time that you just want to hold the remote or controller and do it in old fashion.

Just like the clouds,Microsoft is pushing things WAAAAAY before they are optimized,it's like they are in a testing phase and want it to succeed so much that they refuse to drop it,we'll see how that goes.

gamer78044449d ago

@Studio-Yami

"There is nothing new under the sun". Just because the Kinect shared some similarities, doesn't mean that it didn't push things further than the eye toy.
They key feature about kinect is that it can sense depth where the eye toy cannot and it used advanced noise suppression with location tracking.

The cloud has been around for a long time, its not new. No one denies the uses of cloud, many companies use it far beyond gaming.

I"m not disagreeing that you may not have a use for kinect, but its crystal clear that many others do.

InTheLab4449d ago

For games, there's very little use for Kinect. We are 4 years in an there's no use for Kinect beyond a handful of casual games.

As for hating on Kinect, it's not hating when everyone hates Kinect. It's not hating on Bieber when everyone hates him. It's not hating on Miley when everyone hates. Kinect isn't even popular so that angle is out the window.

Tell me, why did N scale back on it's motion controls and why did Sony completely abandon it all together? It was a fad and MS is the only one that hasn't received that memo.

Just because something is interesting to a few (less than a third of their base bought the first), doesn't mean everyone wants that s***. Let's just keep plowing away at crap like this... http://youtu.be/-Cy3mTk0srw and hope enough "cool kids" are duped into having faith in a useless product.

gamer78044449d ago (Edited 4449d ago )

@inthelab

Gaming is not the core focus of kinect, i'd say its only 20% of the focus. To pigeon-hold kinect only to games would be a great disservice. I agree it should only be used for games when it makes sense, but my core argument was that kinect gaming was only a small portion of its potential uses for customers. Nintendo and Sony have scaled back or dropped it due to their sole focus on gaming. In the case of kinect-move-wii "aim-small, miss-small" doesn't work.

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5eriously4449d ago (Edited 4449d ago )

Then why are the sales numbers not staggering? Is it maybe because M$ with the XBone are catering for the wrong crowd?

$500 is just to much for a sports game and a Spark project! That's not only my opinion if we look at the XBone's current sales numbers in comparison with the PS4!

ic3fir34449d ago

fuck the sells, im a gamer, i play games, not best selling, look justin bieber, worst song ever and sell so good, look cod, shit game and sell too musch
Ps4 its Overrated

Studio-YaMi4449d ago

1st,you need English classes,no offense,even though English isn't my first language too but I can still form a phrase.

2nd :
"Ps4 its Overrated"

You keep telling that to yourself,maybe one day in lala land that may come true.

boing14449d ago

It didn't stagger anyone so far.

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LuckyChamCham3645d ago

Meh, I doubt it'd reach a 95 now even though it was so close before. But it could probably reach 94 again once the rest of the reviews add up.

Krangs_Uncle3645d ago

Yea, I don't think it would have ever gotten to 95 to be honest.. Kind of doubtful it will hit 94 too (although I believe it deserves it) - there's not many more reviews to come in now.

Genuine-User3645d ago (Edited 3645d ago )

It was a few entries away from 95. The washington post really hit the meta average quite hard.

The negative user reviews are a sight to behold. lol

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rainslacker3644d ago

@Genuine

My favorite is the guy who gave it a zero for it not being on PC and he couldn't play it because he didn't have a PS4.

I mean, I'm not one for censoring negative scores, even if it's done with fan boy malice as many of these zeros are, but if you openly admit to not playing it, should that score be considered in the overall average?

In any case, how can any game except one that is not even a game, or completely broken upon boot be scored with a zero? I don't care how much one dislikes a game, there are very few games that exist which deserve a score that low, particularly in light of a game that does so much so well.

krouse933645d ago

I just don't understand the GTA V reviews to be honest, how can it consistently get 95's? Even as a remastered game. It really doesn't seem justified. In every way Uncharted 4 is a better game than GTA V & GTA V remastered.

Krangs_Uncle3645d ago (Edited 3645d ago )

It's because GTAV is multi-plat.. There are less people with bias to bring it down.

Master-H3645d ago

Because the GTA games are usually overrated. Just look at GTA IV with that 98 score. Most bs score i've ever seen.

WellyUK3644d ago

GTA V isn't much better either.

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jb2273644d ago

Yeah I tend to agree. That's probably because I like more focused & pointed experiences. All of the systems in Uncharted are vital, whereas something like GTA will have time devoted to stuff like Yoga that no one really cares about, it's just a feature to make the world feel more deep & engaging.

The core gameplay loop of open world games on the whole are just old hat to me. I will always enjoy a focused gameplay experience, but the open world model of fetch quests & one offs never really adds up to much for me beyond a decently fun way to waste a few hours. I've never really been impacted by anything in a GTA game aside from those rare moments of a great song coming up for the first time or a perfectly structured single mission. There's just too much padding in everything else to really highlight those moments.

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ccgr3645d ago

It's 93 on OpenCritic too

Aloy-Boyfriend3645d ago (Edited 3645d ago )

A damn shame that red number stained its score when it doesn't evem have a single yellow one, but nothing can be done. Still 93 is high and any dev would kill to reach that number.

Rants masqueraded as review shouldn't drag a metascore down. There was no explanation as to why he though the story was a "trainwreck." there was no info about the game of objective view on it, just hateful remarks. Opinions can be wrong and readers have all right to call shenanigans on shit like that. And if you have played the game, it's impossible not to facepalm at what he wrote.

Rookie_Monster3645d ago (Edited 3645d ago )

The only thing that matters really is the majority of reviews are positive and the person playing it.

From the 4/10 UC4 Washington Post review, to the 1/5 Halo 4 review by Quarter of Three, to a 85/100 for the Orders 1886 from Dualshockers, troll and "out-of-the-norm" reviews can sometime happens that is differ than the majority of the reviews. It shouldn't affect anything just like if a movie received a 99% fresh rate at rottentomatoes and a 1% rotten rate from a couple of opinions that is differ than the majority. Does that change anything, really?

We are putting to much into this topic already, we should just let it go. Let bygone be bygone.

magiciandude3644d ago

"We are putting to much into this topic already, we should just let it go. Let bygone be bygone."

Exactly rookie. Well said! Fanboys are seriously upset over nothing at all. I never was this upset over then 1/5 scores MS exclusives get. They're just scores.

gangsta_red3644d ago

Exactly Rookie, disagree with the review, disagree with the views but what you don't do is go wild with anger and start spinning conspiracies and blaming people for your own troubles and calling to get something banned or removed because you don't personally like it.

Something a lot of these fanboys just can't understand let alone fathom.

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rainslacker3644d ago

I hate to nitpick, but that 85 from dualshockers for The Order wasn't a troll review. I think he actually liked the game, because to this day, he still says he liked the game. It was higher than most, but he backed up his reasons for giving it that score.

Troll reviews are the ones that go out of their way to find things to criticize, up to and including things that have nothing to do with the game(like, it's not TLOU for instance). Troll reviews are made to incite emotions to garner hits....and TO review from DS was not trollish. It wasn't even that much of an anomaly, like a 4/10 for UC4, or a 1/5 for Halo, just slightly higher than many others.

Otherwise, in most cases, the outlayer scores aren't really that big of a deal. It caused a point to drop off the MS in this case, but 93 is still pretty darn good, and much more than most games get. If anyone were going to MC and used that one review to form a purchasing decision on the game, then that's them being stupid, same way if I didn't buy a product off amazon which had 5 one star reviews but had hundreds of 4 and 5 star reviews. Having the low score may make someone want to see what it says, but I do at least want to believe that people would read that review and be like, "WTF, this isn't a review".

maniacmayhem3644d ago

So because he liked the game it's not a troll review? Even though more than half of the other sites all over the net thought it was shit?

You see Rainslacker, this is why labeling a review you personally don't like is wrong. Because now you have made up a definition for something that only fits your criteria and standard.

A troll review can easily go the other way as Rookie said. Giving praise and cheers to an obvious flawed and crappy game could be considered just as much as a troll as the one who goes out their way to trash it. The only difference is you won't see the flaws in a review that is praising the game or company you love.

Don't you think that this to could be used to garner hits and views also, especially if that game caters to a fanbase that will see it and then take that reviewer in as one of their own and then repeatedly go back because they trust that person? What's the saying, "More bees with honey".

rainslacker3644d ago (Edited 3644d ago )

No, it's not a troll review because he liked it, and gave his reasons for liking it in an objective manner. He may have been clouded by bias in forming his review, but that doesn't instantly indicate troll.

The review of TWP was a troll review, because he openly admitted to not liking the series, and used his personal bias to discredit the game, while barely talking about the game itself. He used the review to soapbox his own beliefs which he knew would be inflammatory. That's what makes it a troll review.

I can reasonably see why the DS review was a decent review, even if others disagree with it. One can not read TWP review without thinking that the reviewer either has an axe to grind, or has some sort of agenda, or he's only doing it to troll. Something which the author himself admits to being perfectly justified.

I labeled the review as a poor review based on it doing nothing to allow the reader to decide if the game would be something they'd enjoy. beyond that, I didn't ask for anything other than TWP to see if it fit within their review standards, which is on them, and that the meta be removed because no score was assigned on the publication itself.

As of yet, no one has been able to say why it's a good review based on objective criteria, but please, give your detailed analysis to show others why you think it's a good review. Walk away from the fan boy part of it, and review the review yourself, so at least we know if you think it's a fair and equitable review that holds some sort of editorial standard. I'd be curious on why you think it's a good review, and why it should be taken seriously, or is of acceptable enough quality to accept the author is qualified to write a review.

No one has a right to demand the review be removed entirely, but people had a right to act on principal on the MC score, despite it ending up being not what everyone believed.

Been a while since I read the DS review of TO, but don't recall it being trollish. I'm not going to look it up now, but given that it got an 85, and not a higher score, I'd imagine they at least found some things wrong with it that the author felt warranted a down vote.

Can positive reviews be used to garner hits? Sure. Was the DS one used in such a manner? I don't believe so. I liked the order, and would give it a 7-7.5. Many others would as well. It's not so out there for a score to be 1 point higher or lower than the score another person would give it, so if it was meant as a troll review, it didn't really try too hard to incite the community.

Unfortunately, I don't think the "more flies with honey" really works for reviews, or most news to be honest. People on the internet are more attracted to the negative. While there are poor reviewers out there who assign scores which would likely be seen as too high, I rarely see it in an attempt to troll or soap box an agenda. I sometimes see it as bias infecting objective analysis, which makes it a poor review, but not really trolling.

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