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Microsoft Studios site removes 5 more studios

Logos for Lionhead Studios and Press Play Studios have both been removed from the Microsoft Studios website following yesterday's announcement that both are set to close. But that's not all.

A further five studios and the Project Spark logo were also removed from the website last night, including Kinect Joy Ride developer BigPark, along with Function Studios, Good Science, LXP and SOTA.

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FasterThanFTL13650d ago

Looks like Microsoft is serious about quality. Almost all the studios being closed were making no games I was interested in. So no loss from a consumer point of view.

Snookies123650d ago

No games 'you' were interested in. Key word there, others might have been and it's a loss to them.

Elwenil3650d ago (Edited 3650d ago )

Very true but on the other hand, do we as gamers really want sub-par games? Naturally there is no accounting for tastes, but if Microsoft as the publisher felt they were not making quality games, it may be better that they were closed down.

The flip side is it's definitely a sad thing for the employees themselves and I hope they can all move on to bigger and better things but from a business standpoint as well as a value for gamers, this may be the best thing in the end.

GameNameFame3650d ago

@Elwenil

Comeon man. THat is the most desperate damage control I've heard.

Really? No one is forcing bad game down anyone throat and it is not like MS is protecting you. Not to mention the fact that there are tester gamers who helps game retain quality.

Quit damage controlling... Past few weeks have been crazy.

-MS gives away Xbox exclusives:
Fans spin losing exclusive as good thing.
-MS mentions converting Xbox into PC steambox:
Everything fan didnt like about PC is like best thing ever.
-MS closes studios down:
Fans spin into MS protecting gamers from bad quality games.

mikeslemonade3650d ago

Toughest 2 weeks for a Xbox supporter

Griever3650d ago (Edited 3650d ago )

Is Xbox One finally Xbox Done?? Games are delayed more than a whole year. Many of those stated to be releasing this year do not have release dates or even gameplay videos. Most former exclusives heading to PC. Executives talk about releasing upgradeable consoles and essentially turning it into a service. First party studios closing and big-name exclusive game cancelled. Phantom Dust cancelled. Lionhead Studios producer calling them "destroyer of first party."

What is next? Seas of Thieves cancelled? Recore cancelled? We still havent seen Crackdown 3 running on an Xbox One even though it is supposedly releasing this summer. Nobody has seen the single player campiagn that will supposedly released later. It looks like the end for Xbox once they release or cancel all the games currently in development.

miyamoto3650d ago

Yes, that is a lot of studios that disappeared.

Overload3650d ago (Edited 3650d ago )

@Elwenil

Microsoft owns the IP's for Lost Oddessy, Jade Empire, PGR, Conker and Crimson Skies and spent 400 million on an NFL deal.

Who made the deal between Xbox One and the NFL? Phil Spencer.

4Sh0w3650d ago (Edited 3650d ago )

Seems Microsoft is trimming some fat today. Although I read in the comments from the tweet that this may be re-branding of some of those studios, perhaps merging a few together but other than Lionhead with Fable Legends I'm not going to make much of studios like "Good Science" closing when there's really not a body of work we've played or known games were looking forward to. -Anyone know of any past or present game from any of these 8 studios???...any names of cancelled games from them??? Either way I hope all the good folks get offers to stay employed elsewhere.

-Edit, ahhh just read most of these studios are Kinect related, makes more sense now.

Overload you do know that Microsoft is a huge company that makes a pc/tablet line called Surface Pro, that deal involves a full NFL ad campaign with Surface Pros used during pregame analysis, halftime, etc and by coaches during every NFL game...or are you suggesting a mega billion dollar corporation should ONLY pour all their resources into gaming?, lol

sonarus3650d ago

To me this is just Microsoft doing a little belt tightening. I remember Sony had to shut down some studios after the Ps3 faltered out of the gate. They had to trim the fat big time. Microsoft is probably doing the same thing. Makes no sense to invest heavy in first party studios if no confidence that the sales will make the venture worthwhile. Makes sense to shut some down to refocus resources where they could matter.
Just speculating though

LostDjinn3650d ago

It's common knowledge the in order to diversify your software lineup you need to diminish your talent pool. How else or they going to show gamers they care?

Nasty "oversight" there snookie. *smh*

BG115793650d ago (Edited 3650d ago )

@4sh0w If they continue to trimming the fat like this, they end up trimming the Xbox one to.
You know, going to PC and all of that...
For their next console they are already trimming the console cycle for the hardware, for the one year cycle like the smartphone...

Elwenil3650d ago

@NameGameFame,

Check my comments, pal. I don't even own an Xbox. Never have, never will. But the facts remain that with a lot of the less than stellar games coming out these days at full price with all sorts of promises, if publishers shut down under-performing studios, I have no issues with it other than the impact on the employees, which is a sad but necessary fact of life. I was not happy when Sony shut down Zipper, but considering MAG's issues and SOCOM 4 being a complete bomb, yeah, it was time for them to go. Not all games can be hits and even if fans and devs love an IP, it takes more than love to make money and that is what the publishers are in the business for.

rainslacker3650d ago

I can think of quite a few games which many would consider sub-par that I quite enjoy.

AngelicIceDiamond3650d ago

@Griever "Games are delayed more than a whole year."

That means nothing games get delayed all the time.

"Most former exclusives heading to PC."

That MS PLANNED all along not bad news.

"Phantom Dust cancelled."

Of all ppl I know all about Phantom Dust and its not cancelled. Though realistically I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

"We still havent seen Crackdown 3 running on an Xbox One even though it is supposedly releasing this summer."

The beta's coming this summer and will probably release late summer We have to wait till E3 for details.

Those other games Im sure are safe MS would have to be out of their minds to get rid of the rest of their line up, I mean obviously.

Had to correct you on some points.

Why o why3650d ago (Edited 3650d ago )

Next up

Halo on playstation

More gamers get to play and ms gets more money right. .......

I say this because from what I hear on here, exclusives don't matter and it's selfish not to want other people to play the same game.

WelkinCole3650d ago

Its funny how fast xbox fans sh!t on these devs.

I can remember most of them put these studios on their list to compete with Sony first party list and were touting them.

Now its just MS trimming the fat lol!

AngelicIceDiamond3650d ago

Hate this news and gets me very worried about future games on X1.

But there's no way N4G gonna try and tell me about Phantom Dust. Yall gonna believe Griever a guy who knows little about Phantom Dust when PD is my most favored game of all time so clearly I keep up with it. No the game is not cancelled trust me I know better. If theres anyone to believe on that its me or anyone else who actually follows the game closely.

Everything I said was fair, rational and level headed so its not me I checked my facts. But all the fanboys are getting a kick out of the news. Upvote the fanboy comments no matter how dumb they are, Of course you guys will do just that. Since that's the case no point in arguing since Im a get smothered down anyway I'm right you guys are wrong and there's nothing nobody can say or do about it ( :

AngelicIceDiamond3650d ago

@Why Well PC isn't the same as PS4 when it comes to overall appeal or popularity. Halo going to PS4 will change the gamingscape forever if it went to PC it would be a big deal but not the same as if it were on PS4 not nearly the same actually. Everything you said only applies to PC WIN10 specifically MS own software not another competing console so that doesnt make sense.

But ppl will swear that I'm "wrong" somehow though watch lol.

Why o why3650d ago (Edited 3650d ago )

im just having a sly dig Angelic. I know the differences but despite that, MS would gain more money if they put all their exclusives on playstation. Many seem to think games going to pc won't affect the x1 so why couldn't the same apply to them being on ps too

Ezz20133650d ago (Edited 3650d ago )

@rdgneoz3
**"" They got rid of 8 studios and never told anyone until the last moment pretty much... Twitter mentioned people being in a meeting being told what was happening as the article went up...
Hell, a Lionhead community manager just 5 hours before the announcement was talking about how they were going over feedback and trying to make the best game possible.
https://twitter.com/VG_Dave... **

Wow, that sucks

I don't understand how some xbox fans are saying Microsoft is trimming some fat or getting rid of "bad" studios or whatever excuse they will come up with.

8 studios closed and ppl losing their jobs...that's sucks
no matter how much you spin this and not a good sign at all.

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kickerz3649d ago

You know what I find really weird, 90% of the people in this thread are Sony guys just looking to have a dig at Microsoft. It's so lame. As an Xbox gamer, yes I'm slightly disappointed in Fable legends but that's it. Theses other studios were mostly making Kinect games which I'm sure none of us Xbox guys are gonna lose sleep over. It's sad theses developers won't have jobs, but I wish them all the best, they may even end up in a better studio. I have never seen so much over reaction in my life.

Griever3649d ago (Edited 3649d ago )

@ people calling this trimming

Sony was in financial trouble with years of losses and potentially its survival at stake so they had to resort to extreme measures. What kind of trouble is MS in that they have close so many studios, cancel games and think about adopting smartphone model for Xbox? Xbox fanboys always boasted the infinitely deep pockets and massive profits of MS compared to Sony. We clearly know they are not in financial trouble so the only other explanation is they are getting out of the home console industry or at least the traditional home console industry.

@AngelicIceDiamond

Look at the gif posted by Cupid Viper. That is what is going on with Xbox fans right now. They are just refusing to acknowledge what is unfolding before their eyes.

G20WLY3649d ago

Sure, there are game cancellations here and gamers lose out. But the biggest loss here is to the employees.

This is crazy, it's like Xbox is imploding before our very eyes.

I just hope those employees manage to come out of this alright in the end and move on to bigger, better things. I'm sure they will.

Volkama3649d ago (Edited 3649d ago )

@Why o why I don't think MS are really in it to sell games OR hardware, which might initially sound odd but makes sense when you think about it.

Their ultimate goal in publishing is to sit back and make money off of the work of others. They primarily make games to build up a closed ecosystem (The Xbox platform, the Windows store). Once they have that, they get to syphon money from everyone else that wants to publish games there.

You only need to look at what they did with the 360 to confirm that part of their strategy.

That might make them sound nefarious, but it's really a core concept of the console gaming industry, and consumer software industry in general (see Apple).

Personally I'd love to see all exclusive games spread across consumer-friendly open platforms, but it's catch 22. Platform holders wouldn't be injecting the cash to make these AAA games at all if they weren't trying to build up these closed ecosystems.

alvgamin4lif3649d ago (Edited 3649d ago )

@AngelicIceDiamond

I'll agree with you that games getting delayed aren't that big of a deal since It's kind of like the norm for games to get delayed nowadays. As a matter of fact I can't remember a single recent AAA game that didn't get delayed.

However I have to disagree with you here,
""Most former exclusives heading to PC."

That MS PLANNED all along not bad news."

First of all MS focusing on pc from the start is pr and it's quite recent pr as a matter of fact. Let me give you a real example here, have you heard of the kickstarter unsung story? The devs (lead by the producer of final fantasy tactics, I believe?) promised a game in the veins of fft. However approximately a year later they send of an update informing backer that pvp will start in june 2016. They never talked about a multiplayer in this game and when questioned they said that multiplayer was the plan all along. From the very beginning. Sounds familiar?

Secondly MS losing exclusives isn't a good thing...no wait let me rephrase that, xbox1 losing exclusives isn't a good thing. It's a win-win scenario for MS as people might purchase their games on xbox1 or pc however the lack of exclusives devalues a console. Why should I go for a xbox1 when I can use that money towards a gaming laptop (or desktop for people who doesn't play games on laptops)? If all or most exclusives end up on pc then people might as well pick up a ps4 and a pc (or a wii u if they don't like sony exclusives and only care for the multiplatform games). Exclusives define a console. I might pick up a xbox1 because I love the simplicity of console gaming but do I represent the entire gaming community?

EDIT: I changed "will" with "might". I have to wait and hear about MS plans for xbox before making a purchase.

alvgamin4lif3649d ago

@AngelicIceDiamond

You're right about games getting delayed all the time.
You're right about the fact that PD isn't cancelled (It's in a dormant stage for now).
You're right about the fact that we need to wait and see carckdown 3 before we judge it.
However you're wrong about MS's plan for xbox and that fact that losing exclusives is a good thing.

"I'm right you guys are wrong and there's nothing nobody can say or do about it ( :" - a bit childish attitude here :)
I can only point out whether you're right or not and to point out you're wrongs as well. What more did you expect?

Gazondaily3649d ago

@Welkin
"I can remember most of them put these studios on their list to compete with Sony first party list and were touting them. "

Really?

"including Kinect Joy Ride developer BigPark, along with Function Studios, Good Science, LXP and SOTA."

These devs appeared on which lists?

TFJWM3649d ago

@Septic Yes even those studios were on some lists. I remember people putting lists with every single MS studio when trying to compare their first party vs Sony first party

Kingthrash3603649d ago

Can't belive people still are ignoring this.
Something clearly is happening and it's not looking good for the future of xbox as a console.
Like it or not this is how bowing out of the competition looks.
Cancelling putting big exclusives on pc, fable cancelling, now this.
Wake up.

mark_parch3649d ago

@abzdiine

not many people were happy about fable legends most people made it quite clear they wanted fable 4. gutted for all the people at lionhead though the game looked beautiful

Yetter3649d ago

Other than lionhead/Fable, please tell me the name of one game that any one of these studios has released, or is working on

kickerz3649d ago

So let me get this straight ... If Sony trims down some studios it's no biggie, but if Microsoft trims down some studios (mostly Kinect studios) it's the end of Microsoft, they're doooooomed... Just not seeing the logic here hey.

Gazondaily3649d ago (Edited 3649d ago )

@mark_parch

"@abzdiine

not many people were happy about fable legends most people made it quite clear they wanted fable 4. "

Yeah precisely but people like to pretend don't they? Disingenuous and uninformed people aside, it is hardly felt as a big loss...unless of course you desperately want to make a point about it. Mind you, I've seen the same people believe its some sort of downplaying when they themselves thought Fable Legends looked poor. And these same people liked knack and the order and think there was a media conspiracy against them lol.

Its not a good thing having a studio shut down of course...but it was shut for a reason and if the quality isnt up tp scratch you don't want a rushed, u unfinished and poor game on your hands. We have seen a few examples of those this gen

_-EDMIX-_3649d ago

@Overload- MS doesn't own the Jade Empire IP, Bioware does. MS was simply publishing their game like they published Mass Effect.

EA bought the IP of Mass Effect from Bioware, not MS as Bioware owned the IP to Mass Effect, Mass Effect etc, MS never owned an IP from Bioware.

cheetah3649d ago

In the business world, this is what you do when you plan on selling the company. Cut the fat, and make it look as lean as possible to buyers. Watch this space, the XBOX brand will be sold by MS very soon. It's over.

bouzebbal3649d ago (Edited 3649d ago )

@Septic:
Everytime fanboys like christolus and others bring up x1 list of exclusives Fable Legends is among these.
Fable Legends not being a big deal all of a sudden is hypocritical.
And here we go with Knack again.. i like it.....because i PLAYED it.

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Overload3650d ago

That is the craziest spin possible at the possibility of Microsoft losing 8 studios.

TheBurger293650d ago

Next week we might see an article of sony picking up 8 new studios.

Bigpappy3650d ago

They didn't loose any studios. They got rid of 8 studios

rdgneoz33650d ago

@Bigpappy They got rid of 8 studios and never told anyone until the last moment pretty much... Twitter mentioned people being in a meeting being told what was happening as the article went up...

Hell, a Lionhead community manager just 5 hours before the announcement was talking about how they were going over feedback and trying to make the best game possible.
https://twitter.com/VG_Dave...

Overall, hopefully those people find jobs. Not fun getting fired without notice and having a family to feed.

TheCommentator3649d ago

I think we should just wait and see what all of these recent changes mean for XB1 before jumping to conclusions.

For all we know, MS could be ditching the studios that aren't profitable in favor of spending the money on new IP that people have been asking for. Hell, some of these studios were Kinect devs, so why keep them around anyways? What we do know is MS already has unannounced IP in development, but does anyone here know how many, or who's developing them? Will MS use the available resources from these closures to buy Remedy or other studios to broaden their portfolio of 1st party devs?

We can all speculate, but too many people around here are blowing things out of proportion based around assumptions IMO.

rainslacker3649d ago (Edited 3649d ago )

@TheCOmmentator

While certainly possible that MS is making new studios, or something akin to WWS like Sony has, it seems that just closing down so many studios, regardless of their stature, and not stating such a plan going forward is rather dumb from a PR point of view.

All the negativity they have right now could be lessened if they just said those people were being reassigned, or they were restructuring their corporate model. Or maybe not....Most of Sony announcement about studio closures was accompanied by such statements and most people ignored that little tidbit.

I think the biggest problem facing XBox/MS right now, at least from a public relations point of view, is they seem to have no clear plan of how they are moving forward. MS as a whole seems to have a clear plan with all the one platform/Windows stuff, but the Xbox brand just seems to be in this kind of obfuscated limbo of PR jargon and feel good hyperbole from it's executives. Those kinds of things tend to compound over time, and I think the last couple weeks just was the tipping point where people really start to see that something more is happening with the Xbox brand than what meets the eye.

That being said, just because these studios focused on Kinect games, doesn't mean they didn't have the skill to make more expansive games. It takes a lot of money to close a studio(wierd premise I know), and it takes a lot more to open a new one, not to mention how time consuming it is to open a new studio/studios. If MS plans to open new studios, then it'll be about a year before they begin production on games, whereas these other studios could have been restructured into AAA class developers with nothing more than hiring some more staff and setting up the internal infrastructure

TheCommentator3649d ago

I understand your point about the financial burdens associated with closing and opening studios, Rain. It is entirely possible, however, that there are 3rd party studios like Remedy that MS would rather buy than continue to spend money on studios that aren't made up of people MS believes can put out the quality necessary to be successful. Sometimes it's better to cut losses and start over.

Maybe GDC or E3 will shed some light on what MS intends, but I agree that there's a lot of negativity that could have been reduced with the insertion of news about new studios or IP. Let's face it though, MS has never been known to be very tactful when it comes to releasing information, lol.

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GameDev13650d ago

Way to spin it this situation my good man, such positivity

Has nothing to do with quality, more to do with software that sells more to the Xbox fanbase

lelo2play3650d ago

What the hell is happening with Microsoft? Are they broke or something?

At this moment I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft closed down Mojang.

MannGamer3649d ago

Not possible, this is Microsoft we are talking about, the company make a shit ton of money. They make so much money that Xbox Fan says loosing some in the Xbox division would not hurt them at all and that they will keep investing on Xbox because they have the money for that.

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S2Killinit3650d ago

Nice damage control there.
I wonder if this is MS's first move toward turning xbox into a steam machine? What is going on with closing studios of late??

Darkfist3650d ago

lol, if thats the case then they should close Rare since they didnt make any good quality games

Riseer3650d ago

Yea Crackdown 3 is suspect

rainslacker3650d ago

Hate to hate on CD3, but seriously, the 2nd game wasn't that great. First one was pretty decent. All three were/are developed by different studios with lackluster releases in their portfolio. So if quality is an issue that causes games to get cancelled and studios shut down, CD3 isn't safe.

Something to ponder since not much has been shown of CD3 and it's less than stellar critical reception history. Most of the hype around CD3 seems to be around it's destructible environments and cloud, yet the game play I've seen hardly any mention of.

notachance3650d ago Show
MasterCornholio3650d ago

Why does this remind me of Phil Spencer's 1st class citizen comment?

WelkinCole3650d ago

So it is the fault of these 8 studios that they suck?.

MS and how they treat their devs like Bungie do not get any of the blame?.

Yeah sure.

mEATgrinder3650d ago

Yeah, this is all about Microsofts resergence, either get on board or go

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Relientk773649d ago

I feel really bad for these studios and developers. They don't deserve this

CartBlanche3649d ago

It is a MASSIVE loss for consumers! They basically removed all the studios that gave the Xbox One the little diversity of games it so badly needed to get gamers of ALL types onto the console.
All the studios left are dude Bro shooters and Car sims.

Rare being the only possible exception. Can Rare really churn out a diverse selection of tastes for gamers who don't like Gears of War, Halo and Forza? I very much doubt it.

The other studios can't just keep churning out sequels, as console owners want original IPs at some point.

More nails in the console's coffin. Might as well switch to PCs as this ship is sinking fast.

jojo3193649d ago

Why is everybody forgetting that it's outpacing the 360?? Just because it's a distant second to Sony, does NOT mean they are losing money. BOTH companies are selling more. The "Pie" is MUCH bigger than it used to be. If these "Xbox is dead" people had their way, all other car manufacturers other than number one are "failing". It's a joke.

CartBlanche3649d ago

@jojo if it was the success Microsoft expected it to be.
1. we would know official sales numbers for the console.
2. The Xbox One would actually have console exclusives rather than multi-platforms.
3. They would not be shutting down 8 game studios as there would be demand for all the games.
4. They would not be talking about an upgradable console when they messed up by releasing an under powered machine in the first place.
5. They would be investing in new AAA IPs for their "fastest" selling console.

Do you need more reasons??

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IamTylerDurden13649d ago

Yet, so many xb1 fans were claiming to have enjoyed the beta.

Ppl loved it when they thought it was releasing, and now those same ppl are praising ms for axing a "bad game" and protecting the innocents.

sdcard4gb3649d ago

Duuuude... That's... The highest "Disagree" count I've seen on this site :O
Rightfully so, if I may add.

FN4GM3649d ago

Well thats one way to spin Microsoft having to close studios and people losing their jobs.

AizenSosuke3649d ago

Microsoft I thought they lost 8 studios not 5 but input error on there part, and there's trimming fat and then trimming muscle which can be a dangerous game.

TheTwelve3649d ago

Wow, may reality land upon your face soon.

agame9143649d ago

Wow you seriously must not care about games

Apollosupreme3649d ago (Edited 3649d ago )

More like they're hurting financially and needed to make slashes. Companies don't toss out assets and sunken costs like this when they have the flexibility of a gaming business. Devs can always be redirected to new projects researched to be good investments. Instead they opt to toss these studios in the trash.

Christopher3649d ago

Just to note: Some of these could be a part of reorganization and not necessarily closing of studios. Perhaps 3 studios working on Hololens get folded under one studio.

_-EDMIX-_3649d ago

Despite the massive disagrees, I agree with you. How much software where those teams even pushing though?

I know folks like games and all and its subjective, but based on pure business...if it isn't moving large enough units to justify operation cost, why keep it?

I believe gamers want good games above all else and if MS felt the team wasn't making good enough games, they are correct to go this route.

I mean...if those games were moving massive units, they would not be getting rid of those teams in the first place.

JMyers3649d ago

Wow... so they are closing studios because they are serious about quality? If this was the case they would support the games and studios by investing in quality testing... not shutting them down. Extremely deluded point of view

frostypants3649d ago

"The Titanic isn't sinking! It's just unloading excess air."

Realms3647d ago

MS has no direction when it comes to X1 unless they are planning a full force push on PC next gen. All the other moves they are making are puzzling to me as far as their console presence is concerned it should be troubling if you own an X1. Fanboys are rejoicing I frankly don't care but it's interesting to see the MS strategy moving forward.

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DanzoSAMA3650d ago

Great, quality over quantity.

I think Microsoft should purchase remedy now.

SpaceRanger3650d ago

Quality over quantity?

Oh that's right, I guess it's impossible to have both? Oh wait, MS loves to give you choices. Silly me, I forgot!

Godmars2903650d ago

No. They love to make you pay for choice.

As for topic, missing how they're closing studios when they started this gen by buying/creating them in order to make more content. Sort of a quality within quantity kind of thing.

Eonjay3650d ago

It better be quality because the quantity is falling fast.

Rookie_Monster3650d ago (Edited 3650d ago )

Com on dude 7/8 of these studios closing (even the one core studio, Lionhead haven't been relavent for many years now and made Fable Kinect), BigPark (Kinect Joy Ride; Kinect Sports), Function (Kinect), Good Science (Kinect Adventures; Kinect Fun Labs), LXP - (Kinect),Press Play (Max: The Curse of Brotherhood; Kalimba), Team Dakota (Project Spark), and State of the Art (Kinect) only makes Kinect/indies titles. Unless you guys still want Kinect titles, then the money saved will be taken to greater use for core gaming.

LOL, I like how you all of a sudden have so much concerns for Kinect studios. It is just trimming excess fat before the full plan of core gaming explosion with the XB1/Windows 10 initiative. I and many sees it as a good thing. It is like Sony letting go of studios that are making Move titles.

Gority3650d ago (Edited 3650d ago )

@Rookie

Damage control. A lot of people had good things to say about Fable Legends and with it going into open beta THIS SPRING, there's no reason not to give it a little more time, especially since it was going to be PC/X1 cross play.

Press Play was working on a title people were excited about, Team Spark had a lot of talented people.

You also don't know the definition of indie titles. MS doesn't make indie titles BY definition. Smaller games do not equal indie titles and you should know that right now.

There's also no indication of the resources for those studios being redirected so you are simply making an assumption. You say there's going to be an explosion of core games for X1/PC but legends was supposed to be part of that. Even assuming you're right, then MS needs to have better messaging about it, not letting people continue to wonder if they are losing faith in the Xbox brand.

Rookie_Monster3650d ago (Edited 3650d ago )

@Gority

You said Damage Control. BUT real Xbox fans don't even care about those games. Can you specifically tell me when was Project Spark officially released? I thought it was still in beta, like everyone else. I THINK you got it all wrong as the damage control are you guys that are hating on Xbox as 7/8 of those studios were Kinect and indies. And for Lionhead Studios that hasn't made a good game since Fable 2, another Fable could be easily made by another studios just like Halo Wars 2 is currently being coded by RTS masters, Creative assembly after The original Halo Wars creators were dissolved.

I can't believe the day I came to witnessed when people are saddened over indies and Motion control studios being dissoved. LoL, Concerned trolling at its best.

ThePope3650d ago

@gority

"There's also no indication of the resources for those studios being redirected so you are simply making an assumption. "

There is also no indication to the contrary so not only are YOU making an assumption you're trying to call someone else out for doing the same.

Move along.

BG115793650d ago

So these studios are irrelevant because at a time they were kind of forced to make Kinect game...
I'm wondering whom forced them to do kinect games.
It's going to be fun when MS demands studios to do software for their gimmickly augmented reality thingy...

notachance3650d ago

'real xbox fans'

wtf was that, is Xbox supposed to be a cult or something? you get anything from defending them bro? real gamers should criticized questionable moves from any companies no matter what.

'I can't believe the day I came to witnessed when people are saddened over indies and Motion control studios being dissoved'

PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS, a normal thinking people would be concerned, or at least someone with conscience. You really think these people involved with kinect without MS telling them to, bro?

I swear, MS fanboys say the darndest things.

BitbyDeath3650d ago

@rookie, outside of Halo, Gears and Forza which other studios have actually been relevant?

0.

Do you really only want 3 devs making the same 3 games every 1-2 years?

G20WLY3649d ago

^So, Rookie, 'real xbox fans' don't care about these Kinect games, you say? Yeh, screw the family market, I guess?!

How times have changed...I could have sworn it was the most amazing thing in the world, according to fanboys.

Can you clarify, was it when MS finally realised it was actually pretty crap for playing games that it became cool to be indifferent about it?

Tut tut, what would Milo* say to you now? :(

*if that game had actually been real and had the AI it slyly portrayed. lol

NukaCola3649d ago

Rookie, these arent Kinect Studios... these are talented people who were mandated to make Kinect games and then thrown away. This isn't like they were companies who dropped the ball. They got screwed. Why not use their talents to create something AAA? Why just dump them off?

Gority3649d ago

@Rookie

Dude I can't even take you seriously when you call MS published titles indies. Look up the definition of indie please.

Project Spark came out two years ago in retail. You, a "real" xbox fan didn't realize because you weren't an Xbox fan back then. You were a PS4 fanboy, and suddenly switched from being a terrible PS4 fanboy, to an Xbox fanboy. Either way, it's just bad.

@ThePope

Actually no, I said MS messaging has been bad most of this generation so they need to be clear about it. So yeah, I called him out for making an assumption, and now I'm calling you out for putting words in my mouth.

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DonkeyDoner3650d ago

yeah like forza right?release every year

CYCLEGAMER3650d ago

Can you please enlighten us on what Forza game is released every year. The only simularities i see in Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon is the first word in the title.

badz1493650d ago

@MELMAN26

By your logic, CoD is also not released every year!

Azzanation3649d ago

Since when is Forza Horizon the same as Forza Motorsport?
I thought Playground Games make Horizon and Turn make Motorsport.

CYCLEGAMER3649d ago (Edited 3649d ago )

@badz149 & Kudostoyou

By your logic, NBA 2k and NBA Jam or the same game, just because the both have NBA in the title. One is a NBA/basketball simulator and the other is an arcade style, unrealistic basketball game.

Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon are two completely different games by two completely different devs. One is a racing simulator and the other is an arcade style open world racer. Have you guys even played the games????

You guys are ridiculous...lol

badz1493649d ago

@MELMAN26

I was not implying that Forza MS & Horizon are the same game but kudostoya did say Forza, not what type of game they are and that's the truth so far this gen!

just like how most people here tend to see only CoD and still say things like "it's the same game since CoD4" when that can't be further from the truth, I bet most people are looking at Forza the same way, which is, "Forza is released annually"!

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ScorpiusX3650d ago

That would be a great buy and what wonderful group of people and studio.

G20WLY3649d ago

It would be a shame for them to face the same prospective fate as the likes of Rare though, no?

Better off allowing them a little freedom by staying well away from an MS buyout, rather than watching them fade away.

ScorpiusX3649d ago

Here's to a great purchase of Remedy and its IPs and may it happen soon

Fin_The_Human3650d ago

Yes MS should purchase Remedy and Play Ground...those guys have proved that they can be first party.

Also Iron Galaxy should also be considered by MS.

-Foxtrot3649d ago

I would not want Remedy destroyed in years to come.

I would rather see Remedy go multiplatform. Story driven games thrive on the Playstation and Alan Wake would have gotten the recognition it deserves if it was.

HawaiianDreads3649d ago

They tried to in the past but Remedy said NO, they like being independent.

SUCKxITxEZ3650d ago

So that means no more 343 right? Cuz that mcc was one massive turd.

CartBlanche3649d ago

t is a MASSIVE loss for consumers! They basically removed all the studios that gave the Xbox One the little diversity of games it so badly needed to get gamers of ALL types onto the console.
All the studios left are dude Bro shooters and Car sims.

Rare being the only possible exception. Can Rare really churn out a diverse selection of tastes for gamers who don't like Gears of War, Halo and Forza? I very much doubt it.

The other studios can't just keep churning out sequels, as console owners want original IPs at some point.

More nails in the console's coffin. Might as well switch to PCs as this ship is sinking fast.

baodeus3649d ago

Well MS does want to have the most diverse contents available, but since they are closing these studios, it means they might be able to get contents from some where else and they don't need these studios for that. Here is a theory, but most likely something MS had in mind given the current situations:

- unify window app across devices
- azure -> an all out digital space for all digital contents providers/application designers
- xbox one = PC, so digital contents providers (steam, EA Access, GOG, etc....) should be enabled on xbox one as well with ease
- Sataya and Phils already made it clear since the beginning, that they want to provide the most contents ever

with those in mind, it means one thing:
- MS want to be a central hub for all digital content providers/application designers using Azure as leverage. If this is true (which most likely is the case), MS don't really need these 8 studios to provide or diversify their contents if at all, given most contents do come from 3rd party.

CartBlanche3649d ago

@baodeus Based on that logic of "most contents do come from 3rd party" why keep the other studios at all then?? So Microsoft just becomes a publisher on all platforms. They can sell off or get rid of the financial overhead and burden of the teams behind Gears, Halo and Forza and let them self-publish or publish through EA or some other company.So get rid of them and wait for other 3rd party devs to come up with something interesting for their PC store?

I'm sorry but that doesn't make sense to me at all.

baodeus3649d ago

@cartblanche

so how come steam is doing so well without having any contents of their own? Same goes for Apple and Android? look at MS previous and current attempt at providing their own contents for their mobile devices (since most digital contents provider just focus on apple and android), has it working? No, nobody care. If you want to succeed in getting the most contents, it has to rely on 3rd party/independent/indie, etc...developers.

Same with x360, PS4, PS2, PS1, supernintendo, Nintendo, as well, see how 3rd party support can turn the tide. Did having the most unique exclusive IPS like Nintendo help them prosper against xbox one and ps4? Do you really think exclusive matter? Contents matter, and who ever get the most contents win, regardless if it is exclusives or not.

What MS is doing is no different than what apple and google is doing, that is to provide a digital ecosystem made easy for any digital contents provider/application designer to distribute/sell/promote their contents.

The difference is that MS already has their foot in the console gaming (hence they do keep some of the more prominent 1st party contents developers), where as apple, android, steam do not. Most PC gamers also use windows anyways. So why not combine all of them into one? It is the only place where MS has a chance to compete the likes of apple and google in the digital entertainment. MS is not competing with Sony if at all in the overall scheme of an all out digital entertainment future. That is why they invested so much into expanding Azure (same goes with google, apple, amazon, etc...), Sony is not even on the radar in that field.

You don't understand where they are going because you probably don't know the economy really well, don't do trend analysis and where the economy are headed, or just plain ignorance/deny of what is coming. It is actually pretty obvious, in your face kind of obvious, of where everything are headed if you willing to accept it.

baodeus3649d ago

I believe if you look at MS as more than just a console and beyond the stupid imaginary console war on here, you might see a better picture. :D Hopes that help.

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JMyers3649d ago (Edited 3649d ago )

What happened to MS investing in games development? In new IPs? Was this not all the talk from the xbox camp... praising MS for studio development and IP investment over the life cycle of the XB1? Now they are doing the opposite and the story has now changed to "quality over quality"...? Another 180 more like.

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Hoffmann3650d ago

They want to rename themselfes into Microsoft Studio_ I guess

AmIRite?!?

remixx1163650d ago (Edited 3650d ago )

I almost pissed myself 😂

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LOL_WUT3650d ago

If it benefits the company by getting rid of studios that weren't productive, then I'm all for it otherwise Microsoft has some serious explaining to do. ;)

jb2273650d ago

So they just completely clean house? I find it hard to believe that 8 full studios weren't productive. Even if that is the case, MS shares a large portion of the blame being that it is their job to keep their studios productive. Also, if we are believing everything the execs say, then those studios were doing amazing jobs only a week ago.

I've never seen so much spin...I mean these devs are out jobs & the best that the MS fanbase can give them is a "good riddance"? It's beginning to sound more & more like some people are more "Microsoft fans" than they are "game fans"...it'd be foolish to think that there was no talent at any of these 8 studios, and if they were all being sluggish, it may have been a better course of action to hire new management than to lay them all off entirely.

Seems like the writing is on the wall that rolling into a new fiscal year, MS is cleaning house in the Xbox division, and they will be working with a skeleton crew until they can bring their numbers up. Sounds more like Xbox is officially on notice from the brass at MS proper, so I see no cause for celebration, this isn't trimming the fat, this is cutting the legs off.

rlow13650d ago

Very dramatic reply, but to which xbox fans are you speaking of? Sounds pretty general what your implying. I love how people group others and then add their own biased view to it so as to make them into this sinister, heartless group that feeds on the misery of others. Grow up.

rainslacker3650d ago

More logical course of action would be to manage the studio in a way that is productive instead of wasting money on projects which never see the light of day for release.

Herbalistic3650d ago

Rare may be next if Sea of Thieves fails to be successful.

SpeakTruthAlways3650d ago

I am more surpirsed at the fact that rare survived till now, but futurr does look gloomy as you rightfully said friend.

Darkfist3650d ago

rare survived because of company's accomplishment in the past, but since MS bought the studio made nothing good, and most of employees left anyway, now its just a name

RGB3650d ago

"Rare may be next if Sea of Thieves fails to be successful."

Lionhead weren't even given a chance with Fable, who's to say MS will give that luxury to Rare?

FallenAngel19843649d ago (Edited 3649d ago )

Rare has a more iconic history than Lionhead with a much larger stable of IPs. Not to mention that it was Rare that created the Xbox Avatars that Microsoft has grown so fond of.

In other words Rare is a much higher priority than Lionhead.

RGB3648d ago

That's the issue that people have with the Lionhead closure. Rare is still about (as of now) because of history, not because of their AAA games since MS bought them. I'd argue Lionhead has put out better games than Rare since the original Xbox. Another thing too, what you mention, they've closed several casual focused studios yet Rare do the avatar stuff that is more casual than core focused.

Very weird, bizarre, how fast this happened and people should be worried about Rare in the coming years.

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The Idea of Microsoft Sunsetting Xbox Is Absolute Nonsense, but It Exposes a Massive Problem

A few days ago, an interview with Seamus Blackley, designer of the original Xbox, sent shockwaves among the community.

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Christopher6d ago

***This whole conspiracy theory (because that’s what this is) is basically entirely based on the idea that everyone involved is lying to us. ***

C'mon now. It's an opinion. Just like your opinion here. And it's from an industry professional who does have more knowledge than we do on how these things work and access to people inside the industry.

I'm not saying he's right, but you spend all this time arguing his stance and why his words are illogical, but then you go and make this sort of statement? Hypocritical.

SimulationDaily6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

It's from someone who has not worked at Microsoft or anywhere close to Microsoft or even in the gaming industry for over 20 years, and has worked at Microsoft for less than 4 years in total. He doesn't know a single one of the people involed and his experience of the topic is so diluted that he has no more authority than any rando on Reddit.

And almost none of the articles citing this silliness do the bare minimum due diligence to mention that essential context.

When you present a ludicrous hot take from someone who is nowhere near a position to know a thing about what Microsoft is doing today, if you think that readers aren't entitled to be made aware of that, we'll have to agree to disagree.

The truth is that a lot of the media outlets in this industry have chucked the bare minimum of professional reporting ethics into the recycle bin in the name of making a quick buck, and this is a pretty obvious example. This has been going on for years, it sucks, and it's only getting worse.

Misleading information for clicks may not offend you, and that's fine, but as someone who has dedicated the past 25 years of his life to informing people, it certainly offends me, and I see no reason not to express that position. Firmly.

Christopher6d ago

***Misleading information for clicks may not offend you, and that's fine***

You really need to stop with the logical fallacies. There's nothing there that says my opinion on the original matter other than calling out your hypocrisy of doing the same thing you complain they're doing. Not even a part of the conversation.

Also, he didn't do it for clicks, journalists turned it into clicks.

SimulationDaily6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@Christopher: his opinion is not the problem, besides the fact that it's nonsensical and based on nothing.
The problem is that it has been presented as a take from someone with authority by professionally bankrupt media that fills up the fact that they have nothing relevant to say with fluff for clicks, regardless of the fact that such a presentation ends up misinforming people.

ABizzel15d ago

Regardless of everyone’s opinion, one thing that’s never good is to be in the comments arguing with people on their opinion, about your opinion, especially in a place where you have no monetization.

1Victor5d ago

@simulation
The way I see it you’re flipping the crumpet and assuming that because he hasn’t been a part of Microsoft for so long he don’t have contacts inside or he is exaggerating what we all can see in Xbox history of lies, deception and half truths since the 360 era.
Its very disingenuous of you to come and complain about his opinion when the patterns has been clear for way over a decade.
Microsoft is a corporation here if they don’t dominate they terminate the product you sound old enough to to remember Zune and windows phones you if not ask bing what happened to them.

ApocalypseShadow5d ago

'Xbox Is Being Sunsetted' — Seamus Blackley, One of the Creators of Xbox, Thinks Recent Shakeup Spells the End for Microsoft's Gaming Business

It clearly says that Blackley THINKS...has an, OPINION, on the matter.

I think his opinion hurt you enough that you had to create an N4G article to try and discredit his OPNION. The fact that someone that hasn't been in the industry for years, carries more weight than someone that only has one comment on his video, yours. And, has less than 2 thousand subscribers. What makes your opinion better than his? He's someone that actually worked at Microsoft. What's your background besides MS Flight Simulator and FFXIV videos?

Here's the deal, Microsoft spent upwards of 100 Billion or more to try to beat Sony. They tried to buy industry pillars like Nintendo and Sega who said no. They pretty much created a service to devalue games to try and control the market and failed. They never won a generation. Most powerful system in the world or not. They couldn't do it by undercutting Sony with their Achilles heal of Series S. Nothing the 3 Trillion company could do but end up releasing their games on Nintendo and Sony's platforms. Their competitor's systems. The amount of coping in your defense of the current Microsoft heads is just hilarious. It is true that not having a gaming background means nothing if you can turn a business around. But there's nothing to turn. Outside hardened Xbox fans, there's no reason that any gamer needs an Xbox when the games are releasing on competitor's platforms. Nadella isn't stupid to try and go back to exclusives that Xbox fans don't buy enough of to keep the developers they bought afloat. Heads have to roll. Just like the Sega days of heading into a new direction.

Read the writing on the wall. Xbox as you know it is dying and dead. No game sales numbers. No console sales numbers. Nothing. Nothing will change their transition to third party other than an outright ban of Japanese game consoles. But the backlash would be so severe, that any new Xbox would be boycotted everywhere. If any new system is released, it would be in name only or the fans that are left. A PC with Microsoft's name on it like the Ally and the Quest headset. but nothing more than that. A platform that has never been profitable. A game service that has never been profitable. That was once almost canned by Nadella before.

Land that MS Flight Simulator plane and leave the clouds. It's over for them. She's there only to help their transition. No system they sell will bring them back when they never were leaders to begin with in the industry. I came out of N4G retirement just to say this. Your opinion carries no weight and is unsupported by the facts of where Microsoft's position is currently.

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lodossrage6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@SimulationDaily

He may not be in the xbox loop anymore. But he'd surely have a better idea than any of us random people commenting would.

And how to WE know he doesn't know any single person involved? It's not like we can see the man's contact list or know his life personally. And all he did was give his opinion. He never said it was fact. An opinion is not misleading info. If he tried to pass off his opinion as FACT, then you'd have something. But that didn't happen.

We can't be mad about someone coming to the man for an interview answering a question he was asked

SimulationDaily6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

He's not in *any* loop, and he has not been for 2 decades.
How do we know? His responses tell us that. Unless you're unable to read between the lines, you can easily see that he's spitballing without any direct knowledge. The fact that he completely ignores the presence of Matt Booty tells us that he didn't even really read the news, let alone have any real knowledge about it.

Who in the world told you that an opinion can't be misleading information? Of course it can be, when it's wrongly presented as the view of someone with authority on a topic, without being contextualized, which is exactly what happened here.

If you don't know a thing about a situation and someone asks to interview you on it, you can say no.

lodossrage6d ago

His response doesn't tell us who he does/ doesn't know regardless of how long he was away from Microsoft. Again, we don't know this man's personal life or professional contacts to speak on such.

And who in the world told me an opinion can't be misleading info, living my life all these years tells me that. If you're presenting an opinion that should tell you it's not fact. No rational thinking person will sit here and misconstrue the two.

And again, he was asked a question. He never presented himself as an authority, he openly admits he hasn't been there in forever. What more context does he need when he already told us he hasn't been there in so long? Nor has he acted like is opinion is fact.

Now can he say "no" or "no comment" when asked a question? Sure he can, but he doesn't HAVE to. He can offer up his opinion the same way we all do here.

And how can you say he's doing this for clicks? He's the interviewee, not the interviewer or site owner. You have to realize with the video you made you can be accused of the same thing you wrongly pointed the finger at him for.

And for the record, since I know how this site is, I'll say this now. No, this isn't an attack on you. I actually like having convos like this that aren't troll based.

SimulationDaily6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

His response is incredibly vague and drifts into the factually incorrect, for example, when he says "It would have been shocking if they had somebody in there in a meaningful role who was passionate about games, passionate about the creator-driven business of games."
Matt Booty is the second-in-command, which is definitely a "meaningful role," and he's very obviously passionate about games and the creator-driver business of games. As a matter of fact, much more (and with much more relevance) than Blackley himself, who dropped the industry and went to do something else 25 years ago.

No one said HE did it for clicks, although all these "former X" usually do this kind of stuff to appear somewhat relevant when they have not been relevant for a long, long time.

The site that interviewed him and the sites/influencers who presented his opinion with no context as authoritative did it for clicks, because they had no access to any the people even remotely involved, and scraped the bottom of the barrel for something to fill the quota and generate some clicks, and they absolutely misled a ton of people into believing that what he says has some merit.

The "massive problem" isn't that he has an opinion. Opinions like his are a dime a dozen. Is that today's gaming press will fill the air with white noise with zero merit, disingenuously painting it as relevant, regardless of whether their readers are misled into believing something that does not exist.

blacktiger5d ago

First of all I did not watch the video but as far as conspiracy theory goes. Here is my take.

The whole idea for everyone to lie to us is about not owning and be happy. But here is the thing why is it so important for everyone to not own and be happy. What does the elite gain whether we own or not. I understand we not owning cars rather rent is what they want.

But why mess around with video games? I tell you why.
Because they don't want to sell "GPU"
GPU is the main problem. GPU is everything! From 3d printing your house to Mining Bitcoin. Not to mention it's the future that can cripple future government.

Profchaos5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Blackley is the father of Xbox if anyone wants to see it's success it's Blackley

Yet he doesn't think it's long for this world simple as that

I'm more inclined to believe we've been lied to because Xbox has a history of lies and half truths

Stopac5d ago

@SimulationDaily its not a good look for the author of an article to go to the comment section to argue commentors.

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Vits5d ago

Look, I understand the indignation about how the media is talking about this interview. I completely agree on that front. That said, personally, I don’t think Blackley is wrong. Not because he’s a former Xbox executive, but because what he described is something we see time and time again in the corporate world.

If you’ve ever worked in this kind of environment, the sequence of a head leaving, obvious substitute leaving, and then a much younger, completely unrelated executive stepping in feels like déjà vu. Every time we see this pattern, it’s usually because the company is looking for a “shake-up” in a business unit, which often just means restructuring. And restructuring usually means layoffs and shutting things down.

That said, I don’t think Xbox as a brand is going to vanish. What I think is more likely is that the division will be significantly reduced and absorbed into another part of the company.

SimulationDaily5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Glad you understand my view on the press. It's good that at least someone here does.
That being said, placing Matt Booty as Sharma's vice conflicts with that view. Hiring a young CEO with a background of success and supporting them with a veteran vice president is a completely different scenario then one you describe.
The sole idea that Microsoft would be willing to throw away circa 8% of its revenue because of AI is pretty ridiculous.
And if you listen to the reports, you'll know that Sarah Bond was far from the obvious substitute for Phil Spencer.

Vits5d ago

It’s actually the opposite. If they weren’t planning to completely bulldoze the place, then Sharma would be completely alone with an entirely new leadership team, at their mission would be to turn that ship into something else, but keeping the unit itself. The fact that she got Booty as a second hand, instead of a completely new second hand, tells me that they need someone with "experience" to smooth things over while she bulldozes everything.

And honestly, people would be surprised by how often companies choose to “lose” revenue when they realize they can save the same amount or more by simply exiting or reshaping a business line. And that is before AI, that just promise to do anything and it's currently Microsoft focus.

But time will tell. Let’s revisit this in a couple of years and we will see what actually happened. Unfortunately, and I truly mean that, because I don’t want to be right about this, I’ve seen this pattern play out too many times not to believe I’ll end up being right in the end.

SimulationDaily5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Absolutely, let's reconvene in a couple of years. I have absolutely zero doubt about being right. Xbox will still be there, likely bigger than it is now.

"Bulldozing" doesn't fit today's Microsoft's MO at all, nor that of 99% of companies. Companies may choose to lose revenue, but that happens on dead weight businesses, which gaming is not.

And even when they do, they don't park a very successful young executive with a spotless career like Asha Sharma on a business they want to drop. Not only is it massively counterproductive for the company, but she'd likely quit, because she has the resume to get a job anywhere that would give her a business she can lead to success, as she has done with literally everything she has touched in the past decade.

Would I rather see a gamer at the top? Sure, but there's zero doubt that Asha Sharma is an extremely capable exec. Her resume proves it, and you don't waste extremely capable executives doing the palliative care doctor thing.

gold_drake5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

i mean, the leadership was changed out rather swiftly, with someone who has no odea of the business the former had atleast some know-how.

i think they are slowly trying to find something else they can make money off of, and xbox might just be the thing thats costing them more than they think its worth.

that's business. unfortunately

SimulationDaily5d ago

Leadership was changed to someone who has plenty of ideas (and plenty of success under her belt) about *business*, supported by someone who has one of the most extensive careers in the gaming industry.

You don't waste a very successful young executive (who Asha Sharma is; her career is spotless) to babysit a business you want to spin down. This is how business works.

ocelot074d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Question - it's obvious the way the Xbox division hasn't performed well for Microsoft for a long time. The hardware sales has been abysmal compared to their only 2 competitors Sony PlayStation and Nintendo Switch.

I agree with you. You don't put someone like her into a position to babysit a business you want to spin down.

But is sunsetting Xbox hardware really spinning down the business? What if she transforms Microsoft Gaming into the number one game developers/publisher's? Bigger than EA and Ubisoft. Microsoft gaming make plenty games each year for every available console, PC, Handheld PC as well as mobile users via cloud.

GotGame8185d ago

Yeah, not worried about it! Microsoft said it's going with PC Architecture next gen! Hopefully Steam ready! Also, hopping it is upgradable, like Sega and Nintendo were 3 decades ago.

No need for a Pro version. Upgrade memory, exchange/add a board. Buying a mid Gen console upgrade last Gen, you could instantly tell the difference. The majority of current gen games optimized for PRO are great, but they certainly don't make me want to Rush out and buy one. I am happy with my PS5.

It brings me to ask, why so many 5 Pro/Vs Switch 2 comparisons? Seems kinda strange.

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What an Xbox founder thinks of the new Xbox CEO | Seamus Blackley interview

Gamesbeat caught up with Blackley to extract some wisdom about Microsoft’s journey in games, what he thinks Sharma should do, and where gaming can go next. Part of his message is hopeful, but Blackley sees a lot of peril on the road that Microsoft is following. And it makes him worry about the future of gaming.

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piroh9d ago

"I expect that the new CEO, Asha Sharma, her job is going to be as a palliative care doctor who slides Xbox gently into the night."

LOL

Anyway, let's wait and see maybe Mia Khalifa will surprise us.

rlow19d ago

I’m on the fence about her. I’ll give her chance, but if she is there to finish things off. Well what can you do.

Abnor_Mal9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

After seeing the article of the possible sunsetting of Xbox as said by Seamus Blackley I believe, I went onto X because of a post I saw. It was a gif of Vegeta powering up, the poster commented as Vegeta yelling “Don’t take my fiercest competitor away from me.” Standing there in his blue Sayian/Freiza corps outfit. So it got me to thinking, so let me ask a question to N4G.

If Vegeta is PlayStation, who would Xbox and Nintendo be in the Dragon Ball universe?

Who would be Master Roshi?

I have my own opinion of course, I just want to see what others think.

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That’s It, I’m Calling It, Xbox Is Dead, Time Of Death February 20

If you read Kotaku even semi-regularly, you already know that Xbox has been in a weird spot for some time now. And with today’s news that both Xbox boss Phil Spencer and President Sarah Bond are leaving and the new head of the brand will be a former Meta exec who previously lead Microsoft’s AI division, I think it’s time to call it. Xbox is dead. Time of death: February 20, 2026

beerhound12d ago

"The report of my death was an exaggeration." = Mark Twain

derek11d ago

"You would have to be alive first before dying" =
Me

Cacabunga11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

This brand died in the last 2 years of 360 since Kinect announcement.. downfall started all of a sudden until reaching the point of no return with xbox 1 DRM disasters

beerhound12d ago

"The report of my death was an exaggeration." - Mark Twain

BehindTheRows11d ago

So ready to defend that you posted it twice.

In any event, I have a more accurate quote: "It's dead, Jim".

S2Killinit11d ago

Also Mark Twain:
I have never wished death on anyone but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.

Zerobalance12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

God! Xbox dead again! Boring! Boring. Heard it all before.

InUrFoxHole12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

While I normally agree... The future of xbox is on shaky ground. Well, xbox as we know it. Im not sure what they are shooting for but who they put in charge mixed with Phil retiring and bond just flat out leaving. It's not looking good.

REDDURT12d ago

Im with you but in western countries I have noticed a trend to put women in control to prevent any kind of critics.

F0XH0UND92211d ago

Does this coping mechanism normally work for you?

bsingle4011d ago

Get ready to hear it a lot more as the final nail goes home.

derek11d ago

Copilot is running the xbox division now, its first official act was fire Spencer and Bond then sell Xbox for scraps.

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Levii_9212d ago

Oh come on, Xbox has been dead for at least 10 years now. I think what’s more important right now is Playstation’s death that is very slowly but surely happening through mismanagement and greed.

InUrFoxHole12d ago

Some what agree. Sony is in a better position to unf#$k themselves. Xbox isn't.

Levii_9212d ago

True i agree with that, xbox's got nothing

ocelot0712d ago

I actually agree sooner Hust is gone the better.

Levii_9212d ago

He's being clowned on by the entire internet but i have been clowning on him way before he became CEO. I hate modern PS so much man. To this day i have no idea how Astro Bot happend in this terrible PS era but that was clearly a miracle.

Grilla12d ago

Delusional take, why do xbots always project Xbox’s problems onto PlayStation?

BehindTheRows11d ago

Every. Time! They compare the closing of a studio (one I liked, mind you, but they know their business better than internet dwellers) to the departure of not one but TWO major figureheads at Xbox. On top of Xbox's other problems, they are also now selling their games everywhere (not just PC).

Sorry diehard Xbox fanatics, we've been down this road before. PlayStation has closed studios. It happens. Maybe they weren't pulling their weight. Maybe they have a restructure in place. What ever the case, it won't come any close to tanking their brand. Xbox isn't in that boat. As a piece of hardware, it is all but irrelevant (hanging on only because of Game Pass at this point). It serves no other purpose because you don't even need that console to play its games. If it was just Xbox/PC, that would be different, but here we are.

So, this isn't the SonyToo that y'all love to hang on. Things are not good for Xbox hardware. At all. It is about time to start accepting that.

0hMyGandhi12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Respectfully, This is probably one of my least favorite tactics in making an argument.
I'll give you an example: If I like the color red, it doesn't mean I hate the color blue.

People lamenting the (potential) demise of the xbox brand has nothing to do with sony or playstation. It has everything to do with xbox. Now, for the sake of argument, you could say that Sony and Microsoft are two peas in a pod, and that they've both made absolutely baffling and worryingly stupid decisions in the recent past. But I truly believe that Xbox would be shooting itself in the foot regardless of Sony's presence (I look at you, Xbox One reveal with always online DRM and the inability to share games).

Sony, on the other hand, is making stupid decisions to stay competitive with the market, and like Microsoft, is seemingly forcing by proverbial gunpoint talented developers to try to make the next GAAS experience and never learning their lesson. I believe that Microsoft squandering RARE is the equivalent of Sony squandering Naughty Dog. Neither platform really knows what they want to be, BUT Sony is alot further along in figuring it out before Microsoft pulls out another revolver and takes aim at another of it's own toes.

Agent7512d ago

Xbox died after the Xbox 360. The Xbox One was mediocre, the Series X was game shy. I'm glad Phil is retiring.

S2Killinit11d ago

Exaggerated projection of xbox problems onto Sony. This is what gave xbox the extra slack all these generations to eventually run themselves into the ground.

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The_Blue12d ago

This is why the views and comments are low, with lame articles that use divide-and-conquer pretensions.

ApexLanding2311d ago

To be fair "divide and conquer pretensions" have been present in the comment section of this website for years regardless of the articles title, composition or intent. It's therefore unlikely that's what's playing a part in low viewership and commenting.

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