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Rumor: Xbox One Leaking Liquid? Two Issues Reported

Karam Elahi from SpawnFirst reports: "A couple of users on the Xbox Support forums are complaining about quite an unusual issue with their Xbox Ones. Their Xbox Ones were allegedly leaking a liquid that was leaving a milky-white residue, from inside the console itself."

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Kingthrash3604519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

dear god! really?!?
lol from green screen to disc grinding to smokeing to...leaking?!?!? lol xbox is truly all in ONE.
lol i kid, i kid.
but thats just nightmarish if true.
this is something i gotta see to beleive.

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gaffyh4519d ago

I think this one is BS honestly. Thermal compound that the console manufacturers use is usually very thick, and grey in colour.

Could it just be condensation from the environment thats gone into the console?

karamsoul4519d ago

That could be a possibility as well.

Mister_Dawg4518d ago

@gaffyh

You're right about the compound. Plus very little is used and it would never 'leak'.
Another bullsh!t Sony fanboy article.

ajax174518d ago

Definitely. If my console started leaking a liquid the first thing I would do is take pictures/videos. The fact that there are none proves this is bs.

DEIx15x84518d ago (Edited 4518d ago )

@Insomnia_84

There is one major problem with those pictures. How does liquid drip up? Does the Xbox One now defy gravity and leak? The vents that have the stain are on the top of the console so those are clearly pictures of someone who spilled something on to their Xbox One, and I do not want to know what.

The Xbox One also says in all of it's documentation that the console should only ever be used in a horizontal position so having it vertical would not be a valid reason behind it and still wouldn't make a mark like that.

That console also looks rather filthy in general. It appears to have a lot of spots and sticky areas on the top of it in general which looks like a rather abusive or careless owner.

Nafon4518d ago

I find it hard to believe that the fan sucked the "capacitor leakage" from the motherboard and deposited it on the plastic vent. Im more inclined to believe that he spilled something on it lol

trancefreak4518d ago (Edited 4518d ago )

I wonder why the photos we get on these issues are shot from a cellphone camera from 2001.

I always take quality pics of my electronics when I get them. This is usually to protect me in the event of any said issue. Especially a motherboard with bent socket pins just in case.

I can't say one way or another if this guy has a real issue with his Xbox One or not, but crap photos will not cut it in 2013.

I can say this though that people will make up BS stories when the fault is caused by the end user as well. Perhaps an accidental spill landed inside the device and the fan (dunno the directional flow) kicked it out.

A capacitor electrolyte leak would not even come close to that amount. If it was an HVAC compressor capacitor around 5 μF would be believable but this hell no.

http://www.pcstats.com/arti...

I have never seen electrolysis that bad on a computer component.

I don't own an XBOX ONE but this is highly suspicious.

AndrewLB4518d ago

Funny how this "fluid" seems to defy gravity and somehow make its way up, through the fan, and then settle on the top of the Xbone. Even if the fan was powerful enough to create the lift necessary to do such a thing, it would be flung horizontally from the central fan motor.

Btw... there are no "wet" capacitors under that location, only solid caps. It also couldn't be thermal compound because heat dries compounds out, plus you'd need a TON of the anti-gravity type.

Lastly, someone said it's liquid from the APU heatsink's heatpipes. While it's true those heatpipes are filled with a liquid, it's only a liquid while under pressure in the enclosed pipe. Once you rupture a heat pipe, the fluid becomes a gas and disappears.

nukeitall4518d ago

More bad "journalism" (if you can even call it that) from spawnfirst.

This is highly suspicious with low resolution pictures, the fact that nobody else reported it, and the fact that the image leakage makes no sense coming out the top when gravity pulls down!

GameSpawn4518d ago (Edited 4518d ago )

I don't know about the legitimacy of this issue, but I can speak about exploding capacitors from my experience.

Capacitors CAN explode. Hell I was in the room when I witnessed one go in my power supply in my now ancient desktop. There was a nice loud POP, a flash of light from the power supply, a god awful sickening smell, and obviously a sudden powering down of my computer. I took apart the power supply to see just how bad it was and one of the larger main caps in the power supply popped its "cap" and spewed "ooze" straight out the top into the casing of the power supply -- the "ooze" is the insulating fluid they fill capacitors with that rests between two conductors to make a capacitor actually work -- ain't physics fun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

BTW, this is similar to what blew in my old power supply (big guy, huh?):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

In computer repair I've also seen MANY a computer (laptops and desktops) come in with blown caps -- from motherboards, to graphics cards, and power supplies. I know the symptoms and the smells.

That said -- to anyone with an Xbox One or really any electronics device that uses sizable capacitors, if you smell something that makes you a little sick to your stomach and your device is acting odd or shuts off after short times of use, you probably have had a capacitor go. Capacitors are mainly used to regulate power flow and act as temporary "batteries" in electronics so power issues usually coincide with capacitor problems.

P0werVR4518d ago (Edited 4518d ago )

As the article has stated, the fact of the matter that this issue is rare simply because it's easy to take pics of these issues and post em' online or through youtube. IF it was as prevalent. With few of these articles the past month I'm always on edge about my console and checking in with family and friends if there's has had any issues. So far fortunately no one has had issues that I know of. Which questions these rare issues that happen.

stellarock4204518d ago

sounds like it could be battery acid but i don't think that could be being that the only battery would be the bios like you find in common pc's

Deeke4518d ago

Yeah Thermal Compound seems the most likely culprit in this case....

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Funantic14519d ago

2 out of 2.5 million consoles ain't bad at all.

ZombieKiller4519d ago

Haha yeah not bad until it leaks all over your PS4....

LKHGFDSA4518d ago

I imagine most people wouldn't report it online.

lolCHILLbro4519d ago

Me and my 5 friends all have Xbox Ones, not 1 issue we had, sorry to inform everyone but the hardware is pretty good so far

ZombieKiller4519d ago

Then why are you sorry to inform everyone?

That's a good thing right?

AceBlazer134519d ago

Didn't know you and your friend were the world.Someone call NASA.

Not saying the hardware isn't good, but don't just dismiss issues cause they don't affect you.

The issues with the xbone may not be widespread but they sure do vary. Each one is like a mystery box.

Kingthrash3604519d ago

@zombie
well effing said *tips hat

Magicite4518d ago

No, its crap. There, I have said it.

creatchee4518d ago

@AceBlazer13

"Not saying the hardware isn't good, but don't just dismiss issues cause they don't affect you.

Here's what you said in a PS4 hardware issues thread.

"you take the number of ppl complaining about failed ps4s to the ones saying it's working fine you sure as hell won't come to 40%. so put that figure back up your ass, where it came from. #1.1.4

42d ago by AceBlazer13 | View comment"

Ohhhhhhhhhh the hypocrisy

calis4518d ago

lol, how far did you have to troll his comments to make that desperately loose connection.

One is talking about dismissing the issue, the other is dismissing the percentage.

SLUG4518d ago

my xbox one is doing very good it has no problems

lifeisgamesok4518d ago

Yeah I bet most of these issues are from people that don't even own One

The only issue I had was the Blu-Ray audio synching and that has only happened once

karamsoul4518d ago

Yeah, my Xbox One has been flawless as well, ever since I purchased it at launch. But please don't downplay issues that other Xbox One owners might be having.

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awi59514518d ago

@AceBlazer13

Its a bigger sample that this article has so its more important.

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Magicite4518d ago

RROD will be a dream compared to what this marvel might show us in time.

mrpsychoticstalker4518d ago

So this is news? Lol, sony fanboys should just get a new game and play instead of dig and write this kind of articles.

This is hilarious!

Better yet, get an xbox one .... they have a vast variety of games to play.

Whymii4518d ago

Vast? I agree with you, but we obviously have different definitions of vast.

BISHOP-BRASIL4518d ago

How would this not be news? There are consoles leaking for crying out loud. I agree to the "let's not bllow this out of proportion" stance, but seriously, if you think it's not news worth when something like that happens than you are the kind of guy that wouldn't care about a particular plane crash because all the other planes are flying just right.

AndrewLB4518d ago

Bishop- Please explain what fluid is present inside the Xbox one that defies gravity?

Hint: There are no "wet" caps below that location on the motherboard, and the fluid in the heatsink's heat-pipes immediately turns into gas when the pipe is ruptured because it's only a liquid due to high pressure. That only leaves thermal compound... which in my 25 years of building computers, never once have I seen thermal compound of any type run around the sides of the heatsink, up through the fins, then magically float through the spinning fan blades, to then stop floating and stay on the top of the box.

Even a 260cfm Delta fan, the type that will fly across the table if not secured, would never have the power to lift thermal compound that far.

This whole thing is BS. Made up by trolls or some kid trying to make a good excuse to avoid admitting his cat took a pi$$ on his xbone.

BISHOP-BRASIL4518d ago

@Andrew

You mean beyond capacitors oils (i.e. isoquinoline compounds, which is compatible with "smoking" consoles making popping sounds, that's typical with a capacitor blowing up, you usually end up with that shit condensing everywhere as it's "liquid" at 28ºC) that could had been vaporized and condensed there as it's garthered by the giant air intake on top, or that could simply go up through capilarity (you know, the same way trees get water to defy gravity and go from the roots to the leafs without moving at all) or, even better, some idiot could have the system on vertical despite being warned to use it horizontally and it simply leaked, got to the fan and get slowly spilled there... Who the hell knows. I'm not even saying this is true. But guess what? When the first RROD or YLOD articles appeared they were also discredited and those are problems that became overwhelming throughout the years.

If we simply dismiss every problem claim, we would have no problem claims at all and things would never get fixed. That's exactly what I was saying with "let's not blow stuff out of proportion", this is the kind of thing that needs investigation, not automatic panic nor automatic dismissal.

It could be an important clue about what can be going wrong there. It's good for MS people report this stuff, they can discover if they have something simple like a bad batch of capacitors (which mean they can identify a falty lot to resolve the issue) or a bigger design/power fault that may require a better warrant plan to avoid legal headaches and to know how to implement a future fix. It even can be a good indicative if the system is simply too vulnerable to power surges, which can be easily prevented by owners themselves with UPS or surge protection...

But you know what? Yeah, let's pretend this kind of crap is impossible and trow out stupid comments about gravity that have nothing to do with it and only show you completelly lack of understand on what you're talking about... I really hope your console breaks down out of warrant and no one gives a flying f*ck (been there and it sucks).

BISHOP-BRASIL4518d ago

Also, 25 years building PC and you don't realize what a true solid capacitor is to notice Xbox One (as most consumer electronics) have none of those.

Juangie34518d ago

Why does it always have to be Sony Fan boys that attack Microsoft? Did it ever occur to anyone that a person that purchased an xbox one (or a PS4) could be dissatisfied with it because of something happening to it?

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rambi804518d ago (Edited 4518d ago )

Reduced to tears already? JK!

solid_snake36564518d ago

"A milky white residue" could it be that when you bring the Xbone near the ps4 it has a orgasm.

Concertoine4518d ago

woah man, put that solid snake of yours down

Evilsnuggle4518d ago (Edited 4518d ago )

Again in m$ l has a faulty game console . The RROD was the 360 Achilles heel. IM personally Now my 3 x360 .The x1 is having its own defects. This is New leaking milky liquid. But there's numerous reports of malfunction. a report came out that 10 percent of X1 are faulty That's 200000 Faulty x1. Like that wasn't bad enough m$ is replacing brand new game consoles with a used refurbished ones. It's obviously as before m$ cares nothing for its customers http://au.ibtimes.com/artic...

shorty74a4518d ago

Where did you get 10% of XBone'S are faulty? From Spawnfirst website? If that was the case, then it would be on every gaming website. I have actually have an Xbox One and it does not leak white fluid. It does not make airplane noises when playing a disc. It has not spewed Grey smoke ever. Voice commands work amazingly well. RYSE looks next gen. The controller fits like a dream in your hands. You Sony Fan boys like yourself should cut out the middleman and go directly to Spawnfirst to feed your appetite for negative MS stories and hardware disasters.

Linwelin4518d ago

If you have bought 3 x 360's after them failing from the same thing, then that's your own damm fault lol what's that old saying, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, but you went and done it again hahaha

kayoss4518d ago

Power of the cloud is now starting to rain.

otherZinc4518d ago

LMAO! SONY fans will you stfu with this stupid sh*t!

Kingthrash3604518d ago

oh, no ..pics are up...smh

kayoss4518d ago

I honestly think he accidentally spilled something on the Xbox one. Now he's trying spin it so his warranty covers it.

Buff10444518d ago

Agreed....these stories are ridiculous.

dale_denton4518d ago

the power of the cloudz must be raining or on it's period

Bhuahahaha4518d ago

Their Xbox Ones were allegedly leaking a liquid that was leaving a milky-white residue...

hmm let me ask those guys. 'do u watch porn in front of your xbone?'

Automatic794518d ago

I have had this system for a month and some days. Never had these issues this article is flame bait. For those interested just finished RYSE and DeadRising awesome games. Go out and pick up xboxone if you don't have the system is awesome.

neogeo4518d ago

It's da wader fromz the powerz of de clouuuuudzzzzz

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daboosa4518d ago

Lets face it reliabilty was never microsofts strong point!

Mosiac774518d ago

I didn't know liquid would rise like that. It sounds to me like they need to fix the ceiling or stop putting their drinks on top of the console.

ovnipc4518d ago

Some one drop cola in top of it. Stop looking for any stupid reason to trash the xbox. Maybe heat of the system with cold temp jn a room. Xone kicks ass loving it.

Docknoss4518d ago

Two cases just two! It's probably just some kid who spilt coke. This site blows with trolls

94jdh944518d ago

This must be that "secret sauce" everyone was talking about!

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kenshiro1004518d ago

Wow...just wow.
Just when I thought I heard everything...

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s8anicslayer4519d ago

It had a "Gamegasim" once it saw how beautiful the PS4 is in person.

ziggurcat4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

Weird. Are there pictures of this milky liquid?

Edit: it can't possibly be the thermal compound because it's a thick paste...

karamsoul4519d ago

Nope. Kinda fishy, actually. Rumor material unless any photographic evidence posted

karamsoul4519d ago

Could be thermal compound if it's sub-standard.

NeoTribe4518d ago

Yes, somebody posted two pictures in the comments above.

OverPaperSkies4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

Thermal compound doesn't leak in the sense of how water does. It's very thick and dense. You would need to apply an insane amount to the Cpu to even be able too see it. That's after not fitting the heatsink right so it's able to heat up enough to escape. Lmao.

It's very rare it happens on ATX motherboards with common cpus and even then, 95% of companys these days use non conductive compound so if it does run on to the pcb it doesn't cause damage.

Seems like more FUD from the Sony crowd.

To the disagrees. Prove me wrong about thermal compound. I've built more Pc's than you've had hot dinners.

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ZombieKiller4519d ago

...and I've had more hot dinner's than you have bubbles. Does that mean I win this argument?

Xsilver4518d ago

"it seems that it (Could Be) the thermal compound leaking out"
your acting like they said it was a thermal compound leak when clearly they didn't it was just an assumption so calm down before you pop a blood vessel.

Belking4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

From inside the console, huh."lol

"As always, take these reports with a grain of salt, especially when there’s a lack of evidence."

We all know why these so called reports exist.

FITgamer4519d ago

Maybe because it actually happened. Did you read his post? He has a pretty legit gamerscore and didn't make out to seem like a trolling attempt. http://forums.xbox.com/xbox...

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Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle14d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7714d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300019d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7219d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit19d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania19d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit19d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0719d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr19d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box19d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr19d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9519d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7219d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

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What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7219d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket19d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm19d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde19d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9219d ago (Edited 19d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_19d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted19d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit19d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9219d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT19d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers19d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14919d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0719d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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