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sigfredod4616d ago

Those beta machines sure seems to be expensive

jmobley4616d ago

Probably why there are only 300

come_bom4616d ago (Edited 4616d ago )

I'm curious to see the prices for these Steam Machines... specially the one with the Titan.

One other thing that's curious, not one machine with a AMD/ATI CPU/graphics chip. AMD goes with home consoles and Intel/Nvidia goes with Steam machines.

BTW, those machines are quite small, more or less like 30 x 30 x 8 cm

Autodidactdystopia4616d ago

Well one things for sure, these are gonna shit all over the new consoles in terms of performance.. Holy crap. i7-4770 that's like nuts fast.

but only the ones that are higher end.

I wont even talk about the price, hope they can somehow make this cheaper than purchasing yourself and building yourself.

If they could somehow get that top end one down to $600 they would totally dominate.

However I expect a normal price ie 1200bucks

12 x 12.4 x 2.9

that is tiny for dimensions. that's like a a tiny bit bigge than the ps3 slim. Im impressed.

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Mystogan4616d ago

This is going to be over the $1200 dollars. The titan alone costs about a $1000. The question really us who the hell is this aimed at. Surely not PC gamers. They already have their rig. And definitely not console gamers. They complained about the PS3 being $600 and even the X1 for its $500 price tag.

deadfrag4616d ago

They havent talk prices yet and this is done with Nvidia partner.I have told a week before steam announce,that Nvidia was steam partner no one belived,NOW im going to tell again you people are going to be surprise by the cost of the steam machines in a good way!

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3-4-54616d ago

I just build a PC with an i5-3570 , 8GB Ram, AMD 7770, for $600.

And that was through Newegg which almost always has the lowest prices.

With the specs listed, these Machines are going to be $800-1,000

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jackanderson19854616d ago

like i said on the other one, aren't titans like $999 a pop? i worry about the future price of the steam boxes (yes i realize there is other versions)

TheKayle14616d ago

yes titan are..but a 660ti for 200 euro do 2.5tf
with a dedicated machine and presumably ..with some driver that work in low lvl (ala mantle) in this steamOS...u can be ok for all the next generation (seen ps4 1.8tf xb1 1.3tf perfromance)

Nerdmaster4616d ago

That's the beauty of PCs (and the Steam Box) - you don't have only one configuration and only one price, you can choose what you buy according to how much you want to spend. If I could have bought a powered up PS3 that cost more and had better resolution and better framerates, I would've paid more. If a Titan powered Steam Box is too much for you, just choose another one.

Kuse4616d ago

1000 dollar price tag, mark my words...

EXVirtual4616d ago (Edited 4616d ago )

Whoa!
'The 300 prototype units will ship with the following components:
GPU: some units with NVidia Titan, some GTX780, some GTX760, and some GTX660
CPU: some boxes with Intel : i7-4770, some i5-4570, and some i3
RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 (CPU), 3GB DDR5 (GPU)
Storage: 1TB/8GB Hybrid SSHD
Power Supply: Internal 450w 80Plus Gold
Dimensions: approx. 12 x 12.4 x 2.9 in high'
Gotdamn, these things must be hella expensive. If you go on amazon, a GTX Titan is just over 1000 bones. My god. These things are gonna have $1000+ price tag, easily. Who is this aimed at? Console players and casuals especially are not willing to pay that much and PC players already have powerful rigs. Damn.
@thehitman, exactly! It has 16 GB of DDR3 RAM for the CPU alone! I'm getting the feeling that the most powerful could be as expensive as $2000 bucks.

thehitman4616d ago

Most PC gamers dont have rigs that expensive either. THESE are the specs you need for 1080p @ 60fps for ALL games. This should open the eyes of all the people that insecure PC gamers convinced that 1080p @ 60fps should be the standard of next-gen gaming. That "standard" is very expensive and only about 5% of PC gamers meet them.

jmc88884616d ago (Edited 4616d ago )

Nice story, but it doesn't work like that.

Any computer with an i7 920 or above (that's a $229 CPU from 2008) only needs to upgrade their GPU to say a GTX 660ti to achieve that.

So really anyone with a decent PC from 5 years ago only needs $250 or so to upgrade their GPU to a GTX 660ti.

I wouldn't say it's very expensive to do that.

Hell for millions of people that have a decent computer from the past 5 years it's cheaper then a Wii U.

I also wouldn't say 5 percent of PC gamers meet them. I'd say more like 20-30-40 percent. Because playing TF2 solitare on a Pentium IV might show up in the Steam logs, but that doesn't make them a PC gamer that really meets the definition of PC gamer. Also many of these gamers on PC will get there on their next upgrade which won't be expensive.

Let's also not forget that people that want to build new PC's don't need brand new.....HDTV/Monitors, OS, Keyboard, Mouse, HD's.

If their old PC has DDR3 1600, then they might not even need to upgrade their ram.

So whether it's upgrading or building a new PC, you can match a PS4's power for Xbox One's price.

Also whenever a GTX 750 come out, it'll be $85-150 and be roughly equal to the power of the Xbox One.

PS4 is still a good deal, don't get me wrong. But PC's are right there with them and still better then the Xbox One in terms of price and power.

But some people want a now example, so instead of showing you the GTX 750, I'll show you the now example of the GTX 650ti. This is all you need to basically match an Xbox One.

The GTX 650 ti
http://www.gpureview.com/sh...

This is roughly similar to the raw power of the Xbox One. Maybe a smidgen less in some areas and a smidgen more in others. But a pretty good equal.

Another one, but from ATI would be the ATI 7770. Again slightly better in some ways, slightly worse in others.

The price for these cards?

The 2GB version of the GTX 650ti is $164.99 before $20 rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

You can get a 1GB version for $89.99 after rebate.

The 2GB version of the ATI 7770 is $99.99

http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

With 1GB versions also as low as $89.99

So no, getting a PC rig comparable to a Xbox 1 is REALLY CHEAP for anyone with a 5 year old PC. For a PC to match a PS4 you'll need a little bit more, but not much more.

Millions of PC's only need a sub $100 upgrade and they got something comparable to an XB1. Newer lines of graphics cards currently readying for market will push the price down and performance up from these numbers. Within a couple of years even the $29.99 graphics cards should be within Xbox One range.

thehitman4616d ago (Edited 4616d ago )

I have a PC I built 4 years ago... i7 930 HD 5850 1TB HD 120g SSD 8gigs ram liquid cooler for overclocking if i choose and a 700 watt PSU. That costed me about 1200 4 years ago. If I upgraded my gpu thats another 300-400 dollars almost as much as me just buying a ps4. If you want the gpus listed above thats 300-1k dollars. And your saying 20-30%??? Here is a link from Steam numbers, the numbers valve uses

http://store.steampowered.c...

Those are actually statistics. OFC that doesnt represent the entire PC community but it represents a large amount. You can see the % of people who have different GPUs and if you add up the percentage that can actually push 1080p @ 60fps for any game the numbers come in at very low 5%-10%. If I wanted to upgrade 7970

http://www.newegg.com/Produ... would cost me 299 alone for 1 part.

Those cards you listed the 650ti is only marginally better than the card I use now would only give me about 5 fps on average higher power not worth the investment. It definetly cant handle BF4 at 1080p @60 fps on ultra thats for damn sure. Neither can the 7770. The ps4 is like a tricked out HD 7850 and I believe it would only be able to run BF4 @ ultra around 45-50 FPS. If you want that extra STABLE 10 fps then you gotta invest much more money which the cost per value starts to greatly diminish. Then you have to start looking at buying those 4 cards listed above titan 780 760 660 all starting at above 250 to 1k dollars. Also idk how you can power all that on a 450w psu I wouldnt recommend that if someone is packing that only from their specs. Going cheap on your psu is always a huge mistake.

DomceM4615d ago (Edited 4615d ago )

no offense but your build doesnt reflect the most efficient cost/performance you couldve had if you went with more logical components.

Liquid cooling? Yeah ok.
SSD? While its nice to have, its not a necessity for gaming.
Hell i could post a build with a pc case costing $1000 dollars and then complain later about it.

So yeah... if you wanted to maximize cost/performance you did not do a good job here.

I agree with jmc8888 . I have a rig from a few years back, and the only upgrade id need is a new graphics card for 3-400.

And i get top of the line performance again and stay ahead of consoles for another decade.

thehitman4615d ago

Well you proved you dont know anything about computers when you said SSD is not necessary. I am gonna further guess you dont have a SSD or use one, which is why you would say something so silly. Building a high end PC w/o a SSD is like building a gaming machine to play solitaire. The boost in performance of your overall PC is like night and day to any HDD. I use my PC for more than just games and it makes booting and running/opening applications as smooth as butter. Why spend a lot of money on a PC and it takes 3 minutes just to boot up and another minute or two to load your games and applications?

Also you claim I didnt go for the most cost/performance build so please tell me 4 years ago what I couldve built that would last me this long for a better price? Also should keep in mind I bought all my parts from Newegg mostly on black friday and cyber monday to evade taxes and most shipping costs. So share your specs if you got better.

DomceM4615d ago (Edited 4615d ago )

Opening up an argument with a personal attack. Yawn.

#1. I have an SSD in my laptop. I understand its advantages. I understand standard HDD is a bottleneck for overall speed of PC performance.

HOWEVER. I also understand that an SSD has nothing to do with how many FPS you get in a game. In other words, other than faster load speed, there is no significant benefit to using SSDs for video games if we are talking about frames per second.

Apparently that point somehow escapes you.

If you got an SSD to improve overall PC experience, thats one thing, but it has nothing to do with FPS and is not mandatory for games. You can make a personal choice if you want, but dont come on N4G and spread misinformation about the oh so exorbitant cost of PC gaming. This isnt related to PC gaming. This is just you buying a part to make your overall computing experience better.

And I already told you what was not cost efficient. SSD and Watercooling. Watercooling being the biggest offender.

SSDs are great and ill be buying a 1TB one from samsung for the holiday season. The difference between you and me is that you wont find me screaming on N4G about how PC gaming is expensive, knowing fully that the comparison is disingenious. Especially considering that not only are SSDs not mandatory for gaming, but that none of the console manufacturers have released one with their systems for next gen.

A top of the line pc can be built for 1000-1200, and upgraded with a 300-400 graphics when a new console gen hits. That is exactly what I am going to be doing.

PC gaming can be more cost efficient than consoles. You just have to do it right.

thehitman4615d ago (Edited 4615d ago )

Where did I state SSD increases FPS? Loading of games, maps, etc is just as important as increases in your frames and resolution. Why would you build a PC to have any bottlenecks at all? Before I got my SSD I had frequent program freezing slow O/S loading games starting up rather slow. No amount of CPU power or ram will fix that. That stuff is more annoying than playing a game w/ screen tearing and low frame counts. Even the steam protoypes have an SSD in there so are they stupid too? You obviously dont know anything about computers or just satisfied using a crappy setup it seems like the latter. To make matters worse you said your going to buy a 1 TB SSD???? thats like 600-1k dollars alone and your going to say IM not being cost efficient rofl.... I heard it all.

Also water cooling is not expensive, yes its an extra expense not using your stock cpu fan but I got my water cooler for like 50 dollars its QUIET doesnt wear down in the summer from overworking and you can barely even hear my PC on thats a HUGE plus. If you want to overclock then you need decent cooling and not depend on stock fans. It reduces also the overall heat inside my case dont need to have like 4-6 CPU fans. Again you seem to not know anything about building a proper setup. You probably just bought a pre-built PC from some site.

Also it was just an attack on your credibility you still havent told me your PC specs, if you even have a gaming rig. If you build a PC you build it correctly not some PC w/ half ass parts you have to replace in 2 years. Replacing parts every 2 years is costly. PC gaming IS expensive if you want to reach 1080p @ 60 fps for all games not just now but in the future and to say anything else your just bullshitting. I am tired of PC wannabe gamers trying to act like they are "elite" because they game on PC when they probably run games on medium-high settings all day. I game on PC but I dont have to act like my dick is big all the damn time. High end PC gaming is a luxury especially compared to consoles. These steam prototype specs are going to be STARTING at 1200 and up to say thats not expensive is just being ignorant. What they are doing w/ the steam machines is no different from buying a PC from CyberPower or 1 of those PC Building sites.

DomceM4615d ago (Edited 4615d ago )

I find it amusing that you keep telling me I dont know about computers and then keep posting drivel simply because you do not understand the argument that I am making.

#1. "Loading of games, maps, etc is just as important as increases in your frames and resolution"

Wrong. Stop trying to pass your opinion as fact. If you wait extra 30s or a minute for something to load you can still play everything maxed out on a high end rig.

#2. No consoles have SSDs, and the one that could be in the steambox is a hybrid. Entirely different piece of hardware. So why are you trying to calculate this into the cost of owning a Personal gaming computer? Its an ELECTIVE cost that you made. Period.

#3. "Before I got my SSD I had frequent program freezing slow O/S loading games starting up rather slow" . You are using windows. Linux does not have that problem. SteamOS should help with that actually.

#4. "600-1k dollars alone and your going to say IM not being cost efficient rofl.... I heard it all." First of all, it costs $600, I dont know where you got the thousand figure from. Second, This is not a cost related to gaming. I am buying it for an unrelated purpose. It is not my goal to be cost efficient here. I am not the one who posted on this story bitching about how much GAMING PCs cost. That was you. So if you are going to bitch about cost but then not be cost efficient then that shows your idiocy. I did not complain, and cost efficiency is not my goal when it comes to WORK related requirements of my PC. NOT GAMING. WORK related. Read that over if your comprehension skills are lacking.

#5. WAter cooling just like SSD is an ELECTIVE choice that you made. It is important for YOU to have your computer quiet (at the added risk of melting it down I might add, and frying all of that expensive equipment you are so proud to own).

You seem to not grasp the difference between mandatory components to get games running at max settings, and ELECTIVE components that you chose b/c that is the setup that suited you best. I am NOT criticizing your set-up. What I am saying is that if you made those personal choices then dont come on N4G bitching about high costs. B/c it was entirely optional on your part.

And finally... " PC gaming IS expensive if you want to reach 1080p @ 60 fps for all game" and something about replacing parts every 2 years?

Lol. Please just stop. Most games are multiplats and consoles are the standard. Owning a PC that surpasses consoles guarantees better settings in every game. Clueless much?

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mushroomwig4616d ago (Edited 4616d ago )

I honestly can't see who this product is aimed at exactly, if you have this kind of money to spend then you're better off building your own system.

Also, having a 450 watt PSU with the NVidia Titan isn't exactly ideal.

jeffgoldwin4616d ago

People have mental blocks when they haven't done something before. Like the old joke that grandparents cant set the time on vcrs.

They literally make building pc's retard proof. You plug in 8 components to make it go.

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