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Did Microsoft win GamesCom 2013?

GamrMag's Christian Orkibi discusses GamesCom 2013.

"So GamesCom 2013 has come and gone and while the show floors may still be busy, the major conferences have been cleaned away. So what’s the verdict, which company had the best showing, who made a mess of the floor, and who ultimately…won the show? In my opinion, that answer is quite clear."

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ape0074648d ago (Edited 4648d ago )

nextgen stuff,(ryse, titanfall, online Cloud) MS wins

overall stuff (curren gen+handheld+indie games shown), sony wins

ShugaCane4648d ago

That's a weird point of view lol. If Sony didn't win nextgen stuff, how did it overall won. Anyway I agree that Sony won the show. MS did right but I'm so not interested in Kinect or FIFA so I'm gonna stick to Sony and PSV indie games, Shadow of the Beast, the LBP hub, Remote play etc.. Still prefer what the PS4 has to offer. Much more.

ape0074648d ago (Edited 4648d ago )

anyways the show is only the tip of the iceberg, almost showed nothing, both companies have a lot happening back stage in the dark :D

Skips4648d ago

^ Sony's gonna have a conference a week before TGS (And I doubt it's to show off more indies), and a they're also going to host a Keynote AT TGS.

Not sure what MS is gonna do...

B-radical4648d ago

I personally dont care for indies games at all the fact MS talked about there indie program was cool tho

4Sh0w4648d ago

Yeah I like indie support but frankly I buy a console for great games from experienced studios, it doesn't have to be AAA but I dont want to play games that a 5yr old smartphone can run, if so why buy a home console? Indie games for me are a sideshow like xbla titles its just a given, nice to have like TV, features, apps, they are distant secondary selling points but at a gaming conference I expect to see the big guns. Thats why I thought micro had the best gamescom.

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golding894648d ago

Lol.

Not sure what you mean by that statement ape007.. contradicting yourself.

ape0074648d ago (Edited 4648d ago )

no i mean, overall, handheld, indie games shown, release date

if u want nextgen stuff, then ms was better, if you are not into nextgen that much yes, sony wins

the show showed nothing still

it's not something decisive at all

mewhy324648d ago

I'll play titanfall and ryse on my pc (not true exclusives) and the "Cloud" is not unique to micro$oft LOL, and so many 180's that gamers are getting dizzy trying to keep up. "fail"

Sony releases in 32 countries, shows "TRUE" exclusives, better price, real exclusives, indie friendly....yeah Sony definitely won it all. Hands down.

andibandit4648d ago

shows "TRUE INDIE" exclusives

, corrected that for you, no need to thank me.

Gimmemorebubblez4648d ago

@andibandit

ReSPAWN is an Indie studio because they own the Titanfall IP and they themselves are not owned by MS or EA.....so whats wrong with Indies. Indies doesn't mean a garage of 1-10 people working on a game...all it means is that the studio is independent of a publicly traded company.

wicked4648d ago

Sony releases in 2 countries then in another 30 2 weeks later, corrected that also.

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Muerte24944648d ago

Gakai have real servers not virtual ones. They have a Guineas World Record showing this. Virtual Server aren't the same thing. They aren't as stable as physical servers. While they are cheaper than physical servers, they are more prone to crashes.

Golden_Mud4648d ago

Microsoft confirmed that they'll have 300000 physical dedicated servers

BABYLEG4648d ago (Edited 4648d ago )

I have to wonder how the 2 weaker consoles look more next Gen and play like next Gen consoles.. But the stronger system is technically just a Ram upgrade. Did anyone see the user Interface on ps4? For a second I though he was digging too much.. Something that I could find in 3 seconds by saying Xbox Bing...

guy below me mentions the mud that is driveclub, but not the gloss that is Forza 5.. Dam shame

windblowsagain4648d ago

Titanfall does not look nextgen. Source engine.
Ryse looks good, but slow and abit boring.

vs.

KILLZONE SHADOWFALL.
INFAMOUS SECOND SON
DRIVECLUB.

True nextgen looking games.

ape0074648d ago (Edited 4648d ago )

Titanfall looks better (gameplay, design, novelty wise and replay value wise) than all those 3 games combined, plus the gfx shown were freaking awesome

im a FPS vetran who played almost every fps game in the book, titanfall is the next big thing, something that KZ totally failed to deliver with KZ2 in 2009

not anything against KZ, i'll buy shadown fall but it's not a class A FPS game, more like B

just compare the KZ multiplayer trailer shown yesterday with the CoD ghosts trailer, ghosts look 10 times better in everything (except gfx) let alone comparing it to TITANFALL

Skips4648d ago (Edited 4648d ago )

"Titanfall imo looks better (gameplay, design, novelty wise and replay value wise) than all those 3 games combined"

If you're in to COD gameplay I guess. XD

"plus the gfx shown were freaking awesome"

Not sure how looking about as good as COD Ghosts means "gfx = freaking awesome". lol

Titanfall looks incredibly bland as a "next gen" title.

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
vs.
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

You can't get any closer at looking similar than that. lol If it wasn't for the mechs, Titanfall would look about as bland as Ghosts gameplay and graphics wise...

"something that KZ totally failed to deliver with KZ2 in 2009"

LMFAO!!!! Just stop right there. XD

Bennibop4648d ago

Its funny how MS fans are jumping on Titanfall to be the next big thing, I just dont see it. The graphics look ok but nothing amazing and the gameplay was hardly new and original. Was not that fussed about KZ but now I have seen the multiplayer and its ability to create you own game rules I cant wait but I am under no illusion its not PS4's killer app, that will prob be naughty dogs next title.

Muerte24944648d ago

@APe007, @Rainstorm81

I don't think anyone is doubting the gameplay of TitanFall. It looks wonderful in motion and it runs at a brilliant 60fps. I hope TitanFall does well because it would be retribution for the ex Infinity Ward guys. With that said, these are just modified versions of John Carmack's Doom 3 engine. His engine prioritizes frames per second over textures. He has built another one but i think it's exclusive to ID software (RAGE-mega textures).

For you people who say killzone 2 failed, you clearly have never played it. That game had a dedicated following. Dynamic mode changes on the fly is a Killzone2 Original (Warzone). Killzone3 left a sour taste in people's mouth because it went after COD lovers. I hope they'll have brutal headshots like Last of US.

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Bigpappy4648d ago

I would not base it solely on presentation. The show is still going on. It is up to press reports and the reactions from those reports.

Rainstorm814648d ago

ryse titanfall and **cloud** were all at E3....isnt that the complaint about Sony showing Killzone, Infamous, Drive Club and Knack?

What about Sony's next gen features like in the beginning Yoshida was watching a streaming video of KZ shadow fall then instantly joined into the match...Or the Vita/PS4 remote play feature on AC4.

Sony did show us a ton of indie games but even many of those look very appealing...Rime, Rapture, Shadow of the Beast...Even the vita got alot of love and Masasaki Baby looks great as well...Add in Price Drops and a PS4 release date........ yea sony wins

MasterCornholio4648d ago

"streaming video of KZ shadow fall then instantly joined into the match"

OMG thats so cool.

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Only new stuff from Microsft we got is Fifa 14, but again, its only game bundle and im not intersted in Fifa 14.
Sony how ever showed a lot indie games which some of those looked interesting.

PsnGammer214648d ago

Ms didn't win jack shit man all it showed was same stuff and u get a 500 dollar game with a brick that when u get home all the drm stuff will be back on xD

Anon19744648d ago (Edited 4648d ago )

I'll say it again, there is no comparison between the two Gamescon events. I can't believe that I'm hearing so many gaming sites claiming MS somehow pulled ahead with their non-event.

Let's recap the highlights.

MS hosted a press event from some backroom somewhere. They showed a trailer for a new Fable, when the previous entry didn't really set the world on fire. Anyone surprised a new Fable is down the line somewhere? They unveiled a free copy of Fifa, only for those who preorder, only in 7 of the 13 launch countries. No launch date. 23 launch titles.

Sony's event. Reaffirmed their commitment to the PS3, LBP Hub for free, massive Vita price cut and support, Vita remote play shown off with PS4, a new, $199 PS3, new PS4 features like easy, custom soundtracks unveiled, a raft of new games, firm dates and 32 launch countries, look at the PS4 OS, Gameplay from some of the most anticipated titles, Minecraft, Twitch, PSN+ details like PS3 owners receiving massive discounts when opting to pick up PS4 versions of titles. One million already preordered. 180 games in development for the PS4. 33 launch titles unveiled for 2013 versus MS's 23.

How on earth are the two events even being compared?

trywizardo4648d ago

current gen , MS wins 360
next gen , ms wins a console for core gamers and awesome games lineup
PS3 sucked this gen most of multi games looks better on 360 and exclusives PS3 just have uncharted series and LOU those are the good ones and there are GOW3 only those :)
handheld vita sucks and still sucks so they are trying to make it more popular with connecting it with home consoles lmao
PS4 is for indies that's it

Magicite4648d ago

I see you are serious. NOT.

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NYC_Gamer4648d ago

I can't pick a winner since every conference lacked huge software announcements

shivvy244648d ago

yep i agree, but a few of the indie titles sony announced looked amazing especially RIME

Rainstorm814648d ago

Rime's art style reminds me of The Mark of Kri on PS2...i cant wait to see more on that game

shivvy244648d ago

it reminds me of something team ico would make

Ksar4648d ago

That's pretty obvious they win Gamescom. Sony made a poor conference.

Xsilver4648d ago

having a conference and not having a conference.could you tell me when ur xbox releases i kinda didn't hear it, Sony won u must be delusional. makes sense you support MS that literally tried to stop you from owning ur own games.

DonFreezer4648d ago

Damn right.Sony mentioning the words debut on ps4 first and all the timed exclusive shit broke them apart.

Magicite4648d ago

and the famous Ksar the king of Xbots posts his opinion and once again gets shitload of disagrees.

gamertk4214648d ago

Call of Duty is Activision, not EA.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio13d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing13d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9213d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit13d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing13d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9213d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay15d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn216d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn215d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown16d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay15d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay15d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac15d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger16d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300016d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde16d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde15d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7517d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_14d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.