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Did Microsoft win GamesCom 2013?

GamrMag's Christian Orkibi discusses GamesCom 2013.

"So GamesCom 2013 has come and gone and while the show floors may still be busy, the major conferences have been cleaned away. So what’s the verdict, which company had the best showing, who made a mess of the floor, and who ultimately…won the show? In my opinion, that answer is quite clear."

ape0074564d ago (Edited 4564d ago )

nextgen stuff,(ryse, titanfall, online Cloud) MS wins

overall stuff (curren gen+handheld+indie games shown), sony wins

ShugaCane4564d ago

That's a weird point of view lol. If Sony didn't win nextgen stuff, how did it overall won. Anyway I agree that Sony won the show. MS did right but I'm so not interested in Kinect or FIFA so I'm gonna stick to Sony and PSV indie games, Shadow of the Beast, the LBP hub, Remote play etc.. Still prefer what the PS4 has to offer. Much more.

ape0074564d ago (Edited 4564d ago )

anyways the show is only the tip of the iceberg, almost showed nothing, both companies have a lot happening back stage in the dark :D

Skips4564d ago

^ Sony's gonna have a conference a week before TGS (And I doubt it's to show off more indies), and a they're also going to host a Keynote AT TGS.

Not sure what MS is gonna do...

B-radical4564d ago

I personally dont care for indies games at all the fact MS talked about there indie program was cool tho

4Sh0w4564d ago

Yeah I like indie support but frankly I buy a console for great games from experienced studios, it doesn't have to be AAA but I dont want to play games that a 5yr old smartphone can run, if so why buy a home console? Indie games for me are a sideshow like xbla titles its just a given, nice to have like TV, features, apps, they are distant secondary selling points but at a gaming conference I expect to see the big guns. Thats why I thought micro had the best gamescom.

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golding894564d ago

Lol.

Not sure what you mean by that statement ape007.. contradicting yourself.

ape0074564d ago (Edited 4564d ago )

no i mean, overall, handheld, indie games shown, release date

if u want nextgen stuff, then ms was better, if you are not into nextgen that much yes, sony wins

the show showed nothing still

it's not something decisive at all

mewhy324564d ago

I'll play titanfall and ryse on my pc (not true exclusives) and the "Cloud" is not unique to micro$oft LOL, and so many 180's that gamers are getting dizzy trying to keep up. "fail"

Sony releases in 32 countries, shows "TRUE" exclusives, better price, real exclusives, indie friendly....yeah Sony definitely won it all. Hands down.

andibandit4564d ago

shows "TRUE INDIE" exclusives

, corrected that for you, no need to thank me.

Gimmemorebubblez4564d ago

@andibandit

ReSPAWN is an Indie studio because they own the Titanfall IP and they themselves are not owned by MS or EA.....so whats wrong with Indies. Indies doesn't mean a garage of 1-10 people working on a game...all it means is that the studio is independent of a publicly traded company.

wicked4564d ago

Sony releases in 2 countries then in another 30 2 weeks later, corrected that also.

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Muerte24944564d ago

Gakai have real servers not virtual ones. They have a Guineas World Record showing this. Virtual Server aren't the same thing. They aren't as stable as physical servers. While they are cheaper than physical servers, they are more prone to crashes.

Golden_Mud4564d ago

Microsoft confirmed that they'll have 300000 physical dedicated servers

BABYLEG4564d ago (Edited 4564d ago )

I have to wonder how the 2 weaker consoles look more next Gen and play like next Gen consoles.. But the stronger system is technically just a Ram upgrade. Did anyone see the user Interface on ps4? For a second I though he was digging too much.. Something that I could find in 3 seconds by saying Xbox Bing...

guy below me mentions the mud that is driveclub, but not the gloss that is Forza 5.. Dam shame

windblowsagain4564d ago

Titanfall does not look nextgen. Source engine.
Ryse looks good, but slow and abit boring.

vs.

KILLZONE SHADOWFALL.
INFAMOUS SECOND SON
DRIVECLUB.

True nextgen looking games.

ape0074564d ago (Edited 4564d ago )

Titanfall looks better (gameplay, design, novelty wise and replay value wise) than all those 3 games combined, plus the gfx shown were freaking awesome

im a FPS vetran who played almost every fps game in the book, titanfall is the next big thing, something that KZ totally failed to deliver with KZ2 in 2009

not anything against KZ, i'll buy shadown fall but it's not a class A FPS game, more like B

just compare the KZ multiplayer trailer shown yesterday with the CoD ghosts trailer, ghosts look 10 times better in everything (except gfx) let alone comparing it to TITANFALL

Skips4564d ago (Edited 4564d ago )

"Titanfall imo looks better (gameplay, design, novelty wise and replay value wise) than all those 3 games combined"

If you're in to COD gameplay I guess. XD

"plus the gfx shown were freaking awesome"

Not sure how looking about as good as COD Ghosts means "gfx = freaking awesome". lol

Titanfall looks incredibly bland as a "next gen" title.

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
vs.
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

You can't get any closer at looking similar than that. lol If it wasn't for the mechs, Titanfall would look about as bland as Ghosts gameplay and graphics wise...

"something that KZ totally failed to deliver with KZ2 in 2009"

LMFAO!!!! Just stop right there. XD

Bennibop4564d ago

Its funny how MS fans are jumping on Titanfall to be the next big thing, I just dont see it. The graphics look ok but nothing amazing and the gameplay was hardly new and original. Was not that fussed about KZ but now I have seen the multiplayer and its ability to create you own game rules I cant wait but I am under no illusion its not PS4's killer app, that will prob be naughty dogs next title.

Muerte24944563d ago

@APe007, @Rainstorm81

I don't think anyone is doubting the gameplay of TitanFall. It looks wonderful in motion and it runs at a brilliant 60fps. I hope TitanFall does well because it would be retribution for the ex Infinity Ward guys. With that said, these are just modified versions of John Carmack's Doom 3 engine. His engine prioritizes frames per second over textures. He has built another one but i think it's exclusive to ID software (RAGE-mega textures).

For you people who say killzone 2 failed, you clearly have never played it. That game had a dedicated following. Dynamic mode changes on the fly is a Killzone2 Original (Warzone). Killzone3 left a sour taste in people's mouth because it went after COD lovers. I hope they'll have brutal headshots like Last of US.

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Bigpappy4564d ago

I would not base it solely on presentation. The show is still going on. It is up to press reports and the reactions from those reports.

Rainstorm814564d ago

ryse titanfall and **cloud** were all at E3....isnt that the complaint about Sony showing Killzone, Infamous, Drive Club and Knack?

What about Sony's next gen features like in the beginning Yoshida was watching a streaming video of KZ shadow fall then instantly joined into the match...Or the Vita/PS4 remote play feature on AC4.

Sony did show us a ton of indie games but even many of those look very appealing...Rime, Rapture, Shadow of the Beast...Even the vita got alot of love and Masasaki Baby looks great as well...Add in Price Drops and a PS4 release date........ yea sony wins

MasterCornholio4564d ago

"streaming video of KZ shadow fall then instantly joined into the match"

OMG thats so cool.

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-Superman-4564d ago

Only new stuff from Microsft we got is Fifa 14, but again, its only game bundle and im not intersted in Fifa 14.
Sony how ever showed a lot indie games which some of those looked interesting.

PsnGammer214564d ago

Ms didn't win jack shit man all it showed was same stuff and u get a 500 dollar game with a brick that when u get home all the drm stuff will be back on xD

Anon19744564d ago (Edited 4564d ago )

I'll say it again, there is no comparison between the two Gamescon events. I can't believe that I'm hearing so many gaming sites claiming MS somehow pulled ahead with their non-event.

Let's recap the highlights.

MS hosted a press event from some backroom somewhere. They showed a trailer for a new Fable, when the previous entry didn't really set the world on fire. Anyone surprised a new Fable is down the line somewhere? They unveiled a free copy of Fifa, only for those who preorder, only in 7 of the 13 launch countries. No launch date. 23 launch titles.

Sony's event. Reaffirmed their commitment to the PS3, LBP Hub for free, massive Vita price cut and support, Vita remote play shown off with PS4, a new, $199 PS3, new PS4 features like easy, custom soundtracks unveiled, a raft of new games, firm dates and 32 launch countries, look at the PS4 OS, Gameplay from some of the most anticipated titles, Minecraft, Twitch, PSN+ details like PS3 owners receiving massive discounts when opting to pick up PS4 versions of titles. One million already preordered. 180 games in development for the PS4. 33 launch titles unveiled for 2013 versus MS's 23.

How on earth are the two events even being compared?

trywizardo4563d ago

current gen , MS wins 360
next gen , ms wins a console for core gamers and awesome games lineup
PS3 sucked this gen most of multi games looks better on 360 and exclusives PS3 just have uncharted series and LOU those are the good ones and there are GOW3 only those :)
handheld vita sucks and still sucks so they are trying to make it more popular with connecting it with home consoles lmao
PS4 is for indies that's it

Magicite4563d ago

I see you are serious. NOT.

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NYC_Gamer4564d ago

I can't pick a winner since every conference lacked huge software announcements

shivvy244564d ago

yep i agree, but a few of the indie titles sony announced looked amazing especially RIME

Rainstorm814564d ago

Rime's art style reminds me of The Mark of Kri on PS2...i cant wait to see more on that game

shivvy244564d ago

it reminds me of something team ico would make

Ksar4564d ago

That's pretty obvious they win Gamescom. Sony made a poor conference.

Xsilver4564d ago

having a conference and not having a conference.could you tell me when ur xbox releases i kinda didn't hear it, Sony won u must be delusional. makes sense you support MS that literally tried to stop you from owning ur own games.

DonFreezer4564d ago

Damn right.Sony mentioning the words debut on ps4 first and all the timed exclusive shit broke them apart.

Magicite4563d ago

and the famous Ksar the king of Xbots posts his opinion and once again gets shitload of disagrees.

gamertk4214564d ago

Call of Duty is Activision, not EA.

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Microsoft has revoked the DMCA takedown that forced an indie Minecraft-like off Steam

Microsoft claimed the indie game uses "Minecraft content."

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Microsoft Expects More Xbox Content and Services Revenue Decline Despite Game Pass Growth

During the conference call for Q2 of FY2026, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood talked about the future of the xbox business.

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dveio19d ago

«partly offset by growth in Xbox Game Pass.»

I take it with a big grain of salt. They've been reporting nothing about GP, only words.

We still don't have any hardware numbers, no software units sold, no subscription numbers, no PC vs console GP, we don't have any profit numbers ... we literally have nothing but overall revenue and words.

Reaper22_19d ago

Does it really matter? Are you shareholder? Gamers have to stop acting like these companies owe us something. Its obvious everything is down. Thats completely normal in all businesses. It will be up and down again.

dveio19d ago

Yes, since they don't get tired spewing out word salad 12 months a year.

"Biggest launch", "millions of players", "growth of", "here look our revenue", "We buy ABK", "We'll bring you 1st party every quarter", "Biggest this, biggest that", "We always wanted to share games with everyone", "We're growing", "biggest launch", "millions of players", ... you get the point.

They either shut up.

Or deliver numbers like Nintendo, Playstation, hell even Tencent does.

On a sidenote:

Just years ago, Microsoft wanted to buy out a whole lot more than just Zenimax and ABK. They even wanted to push Sony out and collect Nintendo in.

You bet your butt I'm demanding numbers.

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Christopher19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

In an article discussing industry matters, telling people to not worry or want better information on the industry is antithesis to the whole point of it. I'm going to try this out with all those review articles. I mean, who cares about scores, just try it out for yourself, that's the only opinion that matters.

dveio19d ago

«In an article discussing industry matters, telling people to not worry or want better information on the industry is antithesis to the whole point of it.»

Well.

That's it.

Case closed!

Profchaos19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

He might be a shareholder you can get a etorro or whatever online platform about and throw 20 bucks into Microsoft boom shareholder

BehindTheRows19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Yes, it matters. This is business! Some gamers have to stop acting like it only matters when the company they prefer wants to play ball.

Eonjay19d ago

The fact that shareholders are also in the dark im sure is also completely fine with you and Microsoft doesn't owe them anything either amirite? Not withstanding how silly and potentially inappropriate it is for someone to defend a public company from hiding sales information, you are also completely wrong.

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dveio19d ago

@varora

Thank you.

For over 10 years we've been in those quarterly discussions.

Yet Nintendo and Playstation are the only manufacturers that deliver numbers, that deliver proof, that give us numerical baselines to either brag about or compliment them.

The only fraction that's been pulling doooozens of doooozens, hundreds and thousands of word salad bribberish comments out of their Xbox'clestotitis fan cloud is the die hard Xbox community.

And by doing that they're even defending that downward spiral Xbox is suffering from.

Bring the numbers buddies, or else just stfu.

Reaper22_19d ago

Nintendo and Playstation can deliver all the numbers they want. It doesnt matter much because hardware isn't the only way to make money in the industry. Maybe decades ago but not now. That's why you see sony putting more and more games on PC. They know its the games that keeps the money coming. Consoles stagnate but not the software.
The fact is that Microsoft was and is never gonna outsell them. The competition's console sales doesnt really affect Microsoft"s profit margin much if at all.. Look at how many more consoles sony sells and then go look at what they report in profit. The gap is nowhere near the gap in console sold. Hardware doesn't dictate market trends.

IRetrouk19d ago

Microsoft doesn't report xbox profit, so how can we compare them.......
Console sales lead to those software sales, thats not a theory its a fact, old days, these days... doesn't matter, one company is doing much better than the other, and thats partly because of said console sales...

rlow119d ago

I really think Call of Duty underperforming, the raise in subscription prices and Hoods ridiculous expectations of 30% return. Is what led to the lower numbers.

Reaper22_19d ago

Maybe, but COD sold 8 million on xbox which counted for 40% of the sales.

IRetrouk19d ago

Not even close to being true

BehindTheRows19d ago

Show us the article/sources with these sales numbers.

Chevalier19d ago

Could you show us the profit charts while you're at it? Would love to see this 'gap' you mentioned. Should be easy to show that right?

Eonjay19d ago

This whole report is confusing to me until I remember content and service are separate. Content went down... okay we get that because COD 'bombed' but Services went up because of the price increase which mitigated most of the lost from the cancelations. Okay got it.

I wouldn't blame the results on Amy but she sure as hell had unreasonable expectations.

GamePass has put Xbox in a bad position where the absolutely need PlayStation to make their numbers. So if a big game like COD bombs... they got a problem.

The fact that their service revenue (GamePass) can't drive growth on its own is a huge red flag. That was supposed to be the whole point.

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1Victor19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

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raWfodog19d ago

I don't why people waste their time replying to the alt-account clown. Their comment is going to get flagged as spam as it always does and those comments (and all replies) will eventually disappear. Better to ignore them and carry on constructive debate with those not scared to post with a permanent account.

1Victor19d ago

@raW: “ I don't why people waste their time replying to the alt-account clown.”
He suffer from from keyboardrhrea and can’t wait the average month of clean posting to have a permanent account.

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@taco: “ Funny that this website actually works again when there's prime opportunity to slam on Xbox.
LOL it's all admins ever give a shit about
The funny thing is that it’s at random at least for me, sometimes is working find and other times it doesn’t let me do anything even flag the spammers.
This isn’t a us vs them it’s a everyone is in the swamp up to the neck

Tacoboto19d ago

Funny that this website actually works again when there's prime opportunity to slam on Xbox.

LOL it's all admins ever give a shit about

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Outside_ofthe_Box20d ago

Pretty surprising on revenue and content being down. Obviously hardware being down is expected, but you'd think that the GamePass price hike, CoD, and things such horizon 5 coming to PS5 would drive things up. No wonder MS is all-in on the multiplat strategy, don't really have choice at this point. There might be another GP price hike this year.

SimulationDaily20d ago

COD is likely the issue. It appears BO7 is doing significantly worse than BO6. Game Pass is apparently growing, so the problem isn't there.

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SimulationDaily20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

@Varora: What you "hear" (from your uncle who works at Nintendo?) is irrelevant when the CFO of Microsoft says the opposite in the conference call.
Incidentally, "content and services" are down, not just services, which include Call of Duty. If you don't know how to interpret financials, don't try 😂

Edit: Oh wait... another troll account made 46 minutes ago. I really need to learn to check before engaging. 😂

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Kurt Russell20d ago

I noped my way out on the last price hike. Whilst Ultimate was convenient for a while being also able to Play on PC, it became too rich for my blood.

CrashMania20d ago

Wonder how the goalposts will be moved this time, it shifted from exclusives and console sales, to revenue, where now then.

Lightning7720d ago

No goal post. It was down last January also. Amy Hood predicted this was gonna happen. You gave us and downs, that's simply how it works.

ocelot0719d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Think it was down last January but I don't know why. There is probably a genuine reason for it.

DivineHand12520d ago

There is no incentive to buy into a closed ecosystem with no exclusives. I wish they would just make windows lite or steam os bootable on the Xbox so long time fans who still own the console can get some enjoyment.

Lightning7720d ago

Closed ecosystem? How's it closed?

__y2jb20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

All consoles are closed eco systems. This in itself is not a problem but a closed eco system without exclusives is pointless when there’s alternatives that have them.

NotoriousWhiz19d ago

That's why xbox's next (and final) "console" will actually be a PC.

Christopher19d ago

This is also why Microsoft has been marketing really hard for the elimination of exclusives in general. They are out of the console business and into publishing games and subscription services. They need exclusives to die so they can end the battle with console markets.

Lightning7719d ago

@yb it's games and services are are on PC, tablets, phones and TV's not just found on Console. Even it's games are on other systems.

It's not closed at all. It's games going everywhere is probably the worst idea MS did you're right about that.

Christopher19d ago

You do know that DivineHand is talking about the hardware losses, not the games, right? The hardware is a closed system. It has seen two digit declines each year for at least 3 years in a row.

derek20d ago

And Microsoft wants to release another super expensive console next gen? Bizzaro world economics over there. Phillip Bartholomew Spencer will be promoted on the strength of these loses. Lol

TriniOutsider20d ago

Their next console has to be released. I could only imagine how much R&D they've already put into their next platform.

derek20d ago

Sunk-cost fallacy in action.

__y2jb20d ago

Yes let’s release so we can lose even more money!

Eonjay19d ago

Its a PC.. I don't think they spent a lot of money to R&D the idea of releasing a prebuilt PC. And they are not subsidizing it so by that token I don't see any reason why they wouldn't release it unless they pivot from hardware altogether.

NotoriousWhiz19d ago

They're just releasing a PC. And they don't intend to subsidize the cost so it's going to priced like any other PC and probably expected to ship PC-like numbers and not the many millions that consoles sell. After that, they'll eventually go third party and xbox hardware will be a thing of the past. Sega says hi.

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