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PS Vita as Second Controller for PS4?, "Depends on Developers"

Shuhei Yoshida is President of Sony's Worldwide Studios for SCE has confirmed that Playstation VITA cannot be used as a second controller to Playstation 4.

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MariaHelFutura4717d ago

That sucks, but I kind of expected this.

Need4Game4717d ago

Of course PS Vita cannot be used as a Second Controller on PS4, its because PS4 is not out yet.

What about PS Vita as the First Controller or Third or Forth controller?

mewhy324717d ago

All games are "required" to work with Vita.

thechosenone4716d ago

"Unless a game is specifically programmed to allow such use of PS Vita"

So it's definitely possible but not by default.

kfloydchicken4716d ago (Edited 4716d ago )

POSSIBLY WRONG TITLE !!!

FROM THE ARTICLE / Twitter
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"@InsideEddie Hey BRO! In a normal sense, no. Unless a game is specifically programmed to allow such use of PS Vita."

darthv724716d ago

It could probably be done at some point. I can recall the GBA could be used as a controller for certain games on the gamecube.

The added circle pad pro for the 3ds could potentially lead to the 3ds being some sort of controller option for the wii-u.

I wouldnt lose hope just yet.

MaxXAttaxX4716d ago (Edited 4716d ago )

Title is wrong.
It CAN be used as a controller. It depends on the games.

Not sure why you'd want to use the Vita as a PS4 controller though.
However, Vita Cross-Control features and Remote Play, hell yeah!

abzdine4716d ago

vita cannot be used as a standard second controller for each game for the very simple reason that vita isn't mandatory for PS4 to work

King_many_layers4716d ago

This should be fairly obvious as there's no way that you can just flick a switch for it.

There are no r/l 2 triggers and no input for r/l 3 inputs available so a developer Needs to work in a control scheme that is as effective and natural.

Guwapo774716d ago

@ Need4Game - OMFG I thought I was going to die laughing.

good stuff bro.

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Dir_en_grey4716d ago

Misleading and made up title by submitter.

The tweet specifically said that Vita "CAN" work as a 2nd controller for PS4 if developers made it so.

So the title is completely wrong in saying that it "cannot be".

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GABRIEL10304716d ago

Hi, Ms President what are doing here?

Please read

"Unless a game is specifically programmed to allow such use of PS Vita"

An update is enough in the future to allow to Vita be the second controller.

3-4-54716d ago

So games can't, unless the dev's make it so.

The Ability is actually there then, it's up to dev's to use it though.

Not bad news at all. It will be a huge bonus for dev's to include it as they will then have the handheld market playing their game.

They then can release a Vita game later on and have a better chance of sales because of the awareness of them as developers from their PS4 game that was played via the Vita.

bangshi4716d ago

This is using the Vita as a controller, not playing PS4 games on the Vita - but playing PS4 games _using_ the Vita as the controller instead of the DualShock 4.

All games will have Remote Play unless it requires the camera.

Christopher4716d ago

Wouldn't want to use my vita in the first place. Battery life is horrible.

MariaHelFutura4716d ago (Edited 4716d ago )

Great point. It nice as an option, but I'd rather just use a real 2nd controller. It's obviously more accurate aswell.

I would bubble you up, but that would be pointless.

Nicaragua4716d ago

In all fairness my Vita's battery life is a lot better than my WiiU gamepad.

If im using headphones then i dont think vita battery is bad at all.

badz1494716d ago

Vita's battery is not great but far from bad either! it's almost as good as current smartphones. my Samsung GS3 drain its juice like a thirsty camel even just by playing Candy Crush! play it for like an hour and it ask to connect the charger! (15% battery left)

I play more demanding games on my Vita and it easily give almost 2 hours of continuous play before saying the battery is low. on idle, the Vita easily last for days!

the Wii U gamepad however...that's the definition of horrible battery!

sinncross4716d ago

OMW Sony... MAKE IT A STANDARD FEATURE.

If all game require the PSV controlling mapping for remote play, how hard could it be to make the device a controller?

Seriously... what a stupid move. I am slightly disappointed by this.

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FamilyGuy4716d ago (Edited 4716d ago )

That's not expected at all actually. With remote play an all you'd think PS Vita as a controller would work automatically, at the very least with the games that already support remote play.

Not sure why anyone would want to though, aside from not having to purchase an additional controller, the DS4 is supposed to be a great improvement so I'm sure it would be the most comfortable way to play PS4 games.

I actually wish they'ed make a DS4 style controller for the PS3. A PS3 controller with the DS4 triggers an analogue sticks would be pretty cool.

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yeahokchief4716d ago (Edited 4716d ago )

Come on kid. Use your head.

Not all games are going to benefit from using a touchpad as the controller.

The simple games where you want more touch than you get with the touchpad on the dualshock or games where you want a second screen will be the ones to utilize the vita.

It would be a waste of resources for every developer to use the vita as a controller for every game. Are you really going to play call of duty with a vita as a controller? get real!

it will still be fantastic to use the vita for the games where it can add to the experience. you do not want every game to use this feature. lol.

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THC CELL4717d ago (Edited 4717d ago )

Don't care about second controller, games will work on vita thru remote play is a winner alone. Also if developers want too may as well of been said.

Elem1874716d ago (Edited 4716d ago )

I'm curious how bad the latency is going to be. Nintendo did it right by putting two wireless N chips on the device so one can handle network/internet while the other is strictly for streaming video to the gamepad.... if the PS4 doesn't have two seperate wireless chips the off tv play will have to piggy back off of your local area network which will add up to 100ms of latency (50ms each way)

Crillvirus814716d ago

I been saying this from the beginning ....the vita ps4 remote play is using wifi so it will be laggy

ChozenWoan4716d ago (Edited 4716d ago )

been remote playing PSN games with my vita and I've not noticed any lag. You have to remember that the vita's screen res is not that high so the PS3/PS4 doesn't have to send high bitrate video. So unless your playing something like KZ:SF or BF4 online, your not likely going to notice any lag.

badz1494716d ago

@Elem187 @Crillvirus81

you guys should try remote play for once before saying that it will be laggy! when games are coded to work with remote play, the lag is barely there to begin with! I've played LEGO Batman demo using remote play on my PSP and it worked great! GoW Collection and ICO collection works almost perfectly with remote play on the Vita too. and these are achieved with the PS3. We can only expect things to get better than it already is with the more powerful PS4!

the Wii U pad is useless for gaming out of the range from the Wii U but the Vita can do remote Play from anywhere with wifi. and The Wii U pad itself can't play the whole game while the Vita is pretty mush your PS4 in your pocket. 2 very different things!

sherimae24134717d ago

why does it needs to be a controller when you can play ps4 games on it through remote play instead....

nick3094716d ago

Thats something else entirely.

jujubee884716d ago

No. It's PART of the same thing. What the rumor is talking about is slicing off the easiest part of remote play and doing that.

This is literally the easiest computer language trick, you literally just isolate the gamepad API to say "listen for the wireless signal from a dualshock 4 (in this case, a vita instead)" and boom.

Remote play is built on the same fundamentals, but adds a compressed video to be beamed to the vita display too. I guess what some might want is literally to have a blankass vita display while just using it as another DS4.

Hicken4716d ago

Well, technically, since the Vita has pretty much all the functions of the DS4, it CAN be a controller. And, in fact, the response actually SAYS that it's up to the dev to allow for it.

The title here is just somebody trolling.

Cam9774716d ago

P4G!
And yes, I agree, although it would be a decent feature, I guess.

DigitalRaptor4716d ago (Edited 4716d ago )

The Vita is different, build and feature- wise to the DualShock 4.

But if you can remote play PS4 games through the Vita, I don't see how difficult it could be to have it as a native controller.

Shame.

nyobzoo4716d ago

Kind of misleading title, he pretty much says that it's up to the developers to decide whether they want to allow a Vita controller or not. Like how you can use the vita as a controller for UMVC3 and LBP2 on the PS3

GameCents4716d ago

Like how it's up to developers to allow mods on Xbox One but everybody decided it meant no?

fsfsxii4716d ago

How do these two connect??

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

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BeHunted58d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8558d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele58d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla58d ago (Edited 58d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk57d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay57d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10158d ago (Edited 58d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit57d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg57d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10157d ago (Edited 57d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14958d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_71d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle71d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit71d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog71d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog71d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad71d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_71d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage71d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda71d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

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