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How are Developers Using Xbox One's Kinect?

It knows who you are. It knows where you live.

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MariaHelFutura4670d ago (Edited 4670d ago )

"it knows where you are, it knows where you live"

Creepy.

Anyway, developers are most likely using Kinect 2 like used Kinect 1.... To shoehorn gimmicks into games.

The worse thing about Kinect 2 though is no one knows what happens if it breaks, Microsoft isn't selling it and it s mandatory for the system to function. All MS has said is "we have nothing to share at this time". Pretty crazy.

iamnsuperman4670d ago

"The worse thing about Kinect 2 though is no one knows what happens if it breaks, Microsoft isn't selling it and it s mandatory for the system to function. All MS has said is "we have nothing to share at this time". Pretty crazy"

I guess it is if you break any part of the system. If it is under warranty and breaks on its own then they will get a new one for you. If you break it accidentally or you are out of warranty then you will have to pay to get it fixed.

It isn't like buying another Wii U tablet controller as you only need one Kinect. It is more like if I broke the wireless part of my PS4.

MariaHelFutura4670d ago (Edited 4670d ago )

Something that should/could be optional should not be treated like something mandatory (fans, disk drives, etc.). And them not giving a straight answer about it considering, is completely disrespectful.

@malokevi

Kinect could become optional w/ a patch, you fans and diskdrives can't be altered w/ a patch. Don't fool yourself. Kinect is mandatory by choice and it won't be optional because of advertisement more than gaming. Microsoft has made it very clear the Xbox One was made w/ advertisement in mind. In fact, it's one of the only things they've been clear about.

Minato-Namikaze4670d ago

Pretty retarded if the camera breaks then you cant use the system. What happens if it can be repeaired? do you have to buy an entire new system? I can smell this being RROD 2.0. Maybe kinect is the reason they are having production issues?

malokevi4670d ago

"Something that should/could be optional should not be treated like something mandatory. "

But it isn't optional. Its mandatory.

Its not a forced peripheral. Its an essential component.

It's time to come to terms with that.

abzdine4670d ago (Edited 4670d ago )

come one, when you lose of break your car key do you change the whole car?
stop trying to make the problem smaller than it is. My EyeToy breaks, i change it to another one for no money, same goes to PSeye and the next PS4eye which seems pretty advanced and doesn't cost that much even compared to Kinect 1.

Maria has a point, the thing is mandatory and if sth happens to it you are screwed.
The use of Kinect is smells really fishy, i dont really understand why that thing has to be there.

" A hard or gentle twist of the wrist while revving a jet ski will affect its acceleration"
WOW AMAZIING

mewhy324670d ago

There's an important point here. If the kinect stops working for ANY reason then you can't use your xbone. That's not a good thing no matter how you spin it. If it's under warranty (usually no more that 1 year) and micro$oft isn't selling it separately then you're down until you send the thing off for repair. Not acceptable. This thing should not be mandatory. NSA (prizm) anyone?

darthv724670d ago

"Anyway, developers are most likely using Kinect 2 like used Kinect 1.... To shoehorn gimmicks into games."

no that would be the PS4 eye because it will get about as much support from sony and others like the PS3 eye and eyetoy did.

sony not including the camera in every pack is making it an afterthought like they did with the previous cameras. Meaning that if it isnt a standard item, devs will know not everyone has one and wont bother to really take advantage of it.

Ms making kinect part of the package ensures devs that everyone will have one and they will use it in some way to interact with their game. A cool example is how in Dead rising 3 you can lure zombies toward you by speaking: "over here" or "hey" and it gets their attention on the screen.

That may not be a huge benefit to the game but one that is still interesting.

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Colzer014670d ago

Google/Apple map in your handphone knows where you live too. Yeah, it's creepy, FBI is gonna come to my house if I happened jerked off in front of Kinect.

Talk about gimmicks, Yes. the PS light+Eyetoy gimmicks are revolutionary right

hankmoody4670d ago

I'm not worried at all. When they had the red ring problem, MS took care of it. I'm confident that the Xbox One will have full tech and replacement support as well.

maniacmayhem4670d ago

How many times did the Kinect 1 break? Any data or stats you can pull out to confirm that this was an issue with the 360?

Or are we going to continue to play the "what if" game just to downplay what a neat little device this Kinect 2 is shaping out to be.

What if your one controller for the PS4 breaks?
What if your HDD for your PS4 gets corrupted and breaks?
What if the disk lens or Blu Ray drive breaks for the PS4?

You see we can play the what if doom game all day or we can actually see what devs could do to "shoehorn gimmicks" into a game and enhance the gameplay.

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xReDeMpTiOnx4670d ago (Edited 4670d ago )

Simple as this people, Sony fan boys need to shut up ( even tho I like ps better)

Kinect no matter what you say will bring new things to the table and it does have its audience no matter how small or not.

I personally don't care for it one bit but there are those that do so just shut up real talk this fan boy ish gets annoying as ish

trafalger4670d ago (Edited 4670d ago )

it doesnt help that this is the same article we have seen at least 3 x now. but it is true, sony fanboys love to troll m$/xbox topics.

we will see a lot more interesting stuff come out on the xbone with kinect. its 10 x as powerful and now that every system has it they will take it more seriously.

xReDeMpTiOnx4670d ago

Yes they do troll Xbox articles... People even call me a troll even though I stand up for Xbox just because I don't like a feature lmao.

Xbox fans do the same to ps articles as well.

People need to just play good games for good games and not for a brand.

The Meerkat4670d ago

To keep a door open?
To keep piles of paper in place?

I jest.

I hope they use it to map my face onto all my multiplayer characters like you could in Rainbow 6 but better.

Or even better use it to earn me extra XP if my opponents Kinect detects them throwing their controller down when they get beaten. LOL

n4rc4670d ago

Haha at the last one.. How awesome would that be tho?

Screw privacy.. Record that rage out in HD and send it to me.. Lol

rigbybot1274670d ago

The Kinect has the potential of being one of the most gamechanging components in years. If devs utilize it, it will contribute in offering a truly next-gen experience.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle8d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk778d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300014d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7213d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit13d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania14d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit13d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0713d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr13d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box13d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr13d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9513d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7213d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--13d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7213d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket13d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm13d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde13d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9213d ago (Edited 13d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_14d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted14d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit13d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9213d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT14d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers14d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14913d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0713d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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