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Microsoft looking into playing games offline on Xbox One

The Xbox One may eventually work disconnected from the internet for more than 24 hours.

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Godmars2904733d ago

If they're going to make it playable offline, it has to be fully playable offline.

Still can't believe that they thought that was a good idea.

zeal0us4733d ago

I wouldn't get my hopes up

-Before E3
Major Larry: We're looking into players feedback

-E3
The Xbox needs to be connected at least once 24hr, used games restriction and you can only loan your games once.

Major Larry: Xbox is the future *avoids all the questions that involves drm, restrictions and requirements* *Gives generic PR answer to any hard question*

DragonKnight4733d ago

You watched the AngryJoe video didn't you?

I hated how any time the word DRM was brought up, Larry went into immediate salesman mode and said "you're not looking at the benefits."

DRM =/= Benefits.

Mikelarry4733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

They keep saying DRM and benefits I ask what benefits does DRM have.

It does not help me enjoy the game any better just an inconvenience to hinder my experience just cause in the future ms will like a piece of that used fee pie. You know they gonna do it you will be naive to believe ms gives anything for free

SonyPS44733d ago

Nah, DRM=benefits...to MS and game publishers that is.

loulou4733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

I should think that the pre-order tally is already begining to tel m$ what is going to happen if things dont change.

they have less than 5 months to change certain elements. if they dont, then i cant see them selling more than 30-35 mil consoles next gen.

stop the online checks, allow installs but make people keep the disc in the tray and going back to passes will give the xbox one a massive boost.

ofcourse keep on-line only games, or games that are going to use the cloud. but just advertise the fact.

the higher price tag although not great i can/will live with. but other people wont when put together with everything else above that i mentioned

Shane Kim4733d ago

It don't even benefit publishers. One of the top arguments against DRM is that publishers and so on spend millions on developing/expanding this DRM only to be hacked by some 15 year old russian kid.

badz1494733d ago

pfft...like playing offline is something new!

Ritsujun4733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

Okay, they're looking into it.
I bet soon they'd reveal that they're extending the check-in to 48 hours or 7 days.

/lol

dedicatedtogamers4733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

The Xbox One will not be able to play offline. It simply won't.

- the system is designed to play from the hard-drive after installing/downloading
- your library is designed to be shared with people in your "Family"
- the 24-hour check is to see if you traded the game disc (because you installed it to the HDD)

There are too many factors involved. In order to play offline, Microsoft would have to:
- change the system architecture to allow you to play straight from the disc (believe it or not, this isn't a simply line of code)
- forbid you from playing your game installs unless you are online
- forbid you from sharing your Library

Folks, the Xbox One is going to be how it is now. It may change a few months after launch, but it will never lose the 24-hour check-in.

no_more_trolling4733d ago

^^^

ever heard of firmware update?

no_more_trolling4733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

double post

abzdine4733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

I don't think they will and even if they do I already chose PS4! Sony first party games have no equal and third party will look better on it. On top of all this it's cheaper.
they did say that they built the machine for that so do you really expect them to change everything a few months before release? They also Said that they have expected this type of reaction from gamers and the media so do you still think their arrogance will stop suddenly?

Greatness awaits
4>1

loulou4733d ago

dedicatedtogamers

i honestly dont think that you know what you are talking about. it seems to me that you are hoping more than anything.

as no more trolling beat me to saying... a firmware update could resolve a multitude of issues.

indysurfn4733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

They have actually been looking to do this for awhile now....FOR THE MILILTARY. And a few countries that have very little internet. That does not help most of the people that are right now on the internet complaining, now does it. Looking at this article they seem to be trying to confuse people into thinking it will allow 10 people to play the same game at once. No from the start you have to install a game and get online. If once you get online they find out it is on other machines. They will deactivate it from all but one of them. Don't be fooled again by this play on words. When you read that article remember the person being quoted is REDDIT then the second quote is Major Nelson. It is a sneaky way of presenting a questionnaire because most people are used to one side doing the quoting, and the other side doing the answering.

the ONLY THING major nelson actually said was:
"I’d have to check w/ the engineers, but I don’t see why that would not be possible."

Which was actually nothing because everyone knows it is "possible"! the real question is are the big wigs willing!!!

blind-reaper4732d ago

@DragonKnight that interview is pretty fucking amazing, I really recommend everyone to see it to know more about how MS is managing all this DRM thing.

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Why o why4733d ago

This is good. The noise must be getting to an unbearable level.. You can't ignore a crying baby for too long.

Well done to those who made noise in the right places. Even if ms only make a couple u turns it will be a great milestone for us consumers. It'll probably be written into business study textbooks....

Despite my pre ejaculation, I'm not sure how they can do this whilst always having to install games to the hdd. What are the workarounds?

HammadTheBeast4733d ago

Week-month long period before checking?

Cueil4733d ago

simple... by putting it on the users shoulders instead of shouldering it themselves... they could used a pass... only the pass in a one time code... to sell a game you would have to then select some option to get your key back and then give it to a friend or sell it. That or they could go with a authentication check were you only need to be online ONCE and then if you wanted to sell/loan/trade your game you would have to go back online to do that.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4733d ago

lol how do u look into it??? Just stop the bullsh!t!!! and it's over.

SilentNegotiator4733d ago

Because according to Microsoft, they don't know their own policies. Like when they announced 24 hour checks and played dumb for ~month.

BlindGuardian4733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

This is just an attemp by a clever redditor to pit this guy against his own lies, they're not going to change anything because with an offline mode and no disc required to run games from HDD a single disc could be installed on hundreds of consoles and be playable from all of them at the same time.

Their standard line for the last few days has been that the 24hs check is so you can share your game library with your family, but that's just a lie, the check is to remove games from your Hard drive which show as sold on their data base, or hold all your games hostage until they can tell which ones you still own.

So this is just is logical question that he can't answer truthfully because an honest answer would conflict with the talking points he was given.

Rhaigun4733d ago

Exactly. Because, whether its a 24 hr check or a 120 hr check, its still a mandatory check.

koolaid2514733d ago

I've been connected to the internet for 18 years I even had Comcast broadband and Dsl at the same damn time one time lol.

blackmanone4733d ago

"I've been connected to the internet for 18 years I even had Comcast broadband and Dsl at the same damn time one time lol."

This mentality floors me, it really does. So you mean to tell the world that in 18 years, your internet has never gone down? Ever? Not once? You're lying to yourself and everyone on here.

LackTrue4K4733d ago

"the shamily plan" helps!!!
lol...

Cueil4733d ago

you don't see that as a benefit?

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kparks4733d ago

This is not them looking into changing anything lol... Someone askd a question and the PR guy didnt want to answer point blank!

ALLWRONG4733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

MS made the mistake of misjudging the consumers desire, demand, right, or whatever to turn sh*t off when they damn well please.

Garbanjo0014733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

I say good luck, but the damage is done. Running an Xbox in offline mode is something that should have been implemented in the beginning, I say go for it if it means getting XBox off the ground, I highly doubt this will happen, either way Sony is hitting the bank big time with the PS4. I plan to keep posted on this in the next few months, I highly doubt the validity of this claim though. "Getting in touch with the engineers," is like saying "you're right, it's bullshit our bad . . . we need to fix this and this seems to be our loophole, so we don't look like complete f**king idiots here."

I am in no way supporting XBox, PS4 had me at "hello." Or had me at "$399." :)

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StoutBEER4733d ago

Oh god. They possibly change it and your STILL bitching. No use talking to you.

NewZealander4733d ago

if people truly want microsoft to pay attention then go comment on places like www.xboxshun.com etc.

my main concern is the online check in, i know plenty of people that dont have the internet, the DRM is also a huge concern, lucky i tend to not lend or buy second hand games, but i often rent a game before i decide to buy it.

but as a gamer i still see huge potential in both new consoles, only time will tell but MS has a matter of months to put this right, if not sales will take a hit, but no matter what the sales are im still getting both, im a gamer...i love tech, i hate fanboys.

mcstorm4732d ago

I agree with what your saying. To me nothing Microsoft have said about the Xbox one has me worded about getting the console. I have my 360 Wiiu ps3 and home server connected to the internet 24/7 and my internet has never been down for more than 24 hours.

I also never give my game to other people as the game I play tend to be games other people have to for mp and this is one thing that has changed alto this gen in terms of most people are buying the same games to play each other on.

But that said there will be people around the world who don't want there console on line or don't have the internet but that said I don't see people like this looking to buy a Xbox or Ps to. I also think looking at how many xboxs have been sold and how many people have gold shows most people who buy a Xbox also have the internet.

I do see Ms looking to change things a little though as there are some people who will not want to get a one because of these reasons but that said most people on here seem to be fan boys who want to rip into Microsoft when ever they can. For years now they have said they will always pick Sony because they don't charge for playing online but now Sony have said this they have gone quiet over it.

If anything the games industry is very fickle in terms of how its run and what happens.

If you look back to when the Wii 360 and ps3 came out people were up in arms about the ps3 price, having to install games and long load times and a very poor psn service.

Fast forward to now and Sony have improved things but so have Nintendo and also Microsoft.

I think things will change over the gen and just because people are not liking what a device is like now dose not mean they won't like it in 12 months time when changes are made ect.

For me Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft all have very good consoles to support all offer different ways to play games and are all looking to go in there own direction which to me is better for gamers then having 3 consoles all offering the Same games the same ways to play and the same services.

Halochampian4733d ago

The whole reason for the online checks (once per 24 hours automatically at night) is for the family sharing. It allows you and ten family/friends to share your library. It needs the check to be able and keep this updated because due to licencing issues they cant have all ten people playing the same copy of the game.

I know it is cumbersome for some. But for a majority of people, this will not effect them. The Xbone will auto-update during the night. And then they can play offline that day if they like.

If the family share plan does some really cool things, it may turn out to be worth it. Right now, it has potential but we will have to wait and see

nirwanda4733d ago

Too be slightly fair to MS most of the next gen games at E3 shown would require an internet connection to get the most out of them on both systems and making everyone be always on is the only way you could get the whole cloud computing thing to ever work.
I'm still getting a PS4 instead though just purely based on the gpu rumours/leaks/dev comments.

BallsEye4733d ago

I BET if they would make it playable offline, fanboys would find another thing to pick on, not looking at the good stuff at all (hello family game sharing!)

jmc88884733d ago

Well they are complete morons for even thinking of it. I think a bunch of 8th graders could of planned the Xbox One better, and they wouldn't of given it that crappy name either.

But if you look on Amazon you have PS4 packages garnering the 1,3,5,6,8th positions.

True Xbox One has #2, but that's ALL of it combined.

But people have pointed that out so I wanted to give you some other thoughts.

If the xbox one is selling so good....

Then why is the PS4 camera sold more than the top rated Xbox One game. That's right, more PS4 cameras then Forza 5. Sony hasn't even talked about the PS4 camera really.

PS4 has four games in the top 20. Xbox One has 0. Their best, again, is Forza at #22.

The funny thing is if you look on the right, the most 'wished for' thing is the Xbox One and 3rd most wished for is the PS4. Because obviously these were wishes from before the knowledge of what MS was trying to pull on its customers. Now that people know the downsides (drm, spying, etc). Know it's $100 more and yet the PS4 is also has 50-125 percent more raw power those wishes are not translating into sales.

Forza 5 is #22
Battlefield 4 is #28
Dead Rising is #31
Call of Duty is #33
Ryse is #36
Destiny on xbox is #47
Watch Dogs on xbox is #69
Kinect Sports: Rivals is #77
Titanfall on xbox is #99
Madden on xbox is not listed in top 100

On PS4
Watch Dogs is #11 (58 spots higher)
Battlefield 4 is #14 (14 spots higher)
Killzone Shadow Fall is #17
Desinty is #18 (29 spots higher)
Infamous Second Son #26
Call of Duty is #32 (1 spot higher)
Final Fantasy XV #41
Kingdom Hearts III #42
Knack is #56
The Order: 1886 is #63
Madden 25 #81
Fifa 14 #92

So as you can see here the PS4 games are selling much stronger. Games like Watchdogs, Destiny, and Battlefield 4 are selling much more on PS4.

PSN network cards are #7 and #12 compared to #15 and #16 for Xbox live.

Dual Shock 4 controllers is #9
Xbox one controller is #23

So in other words, at least for Amazon, PS4 is absolutely tearing a new asshole on the xbox one.

Thunderhawkxbox4732d ago

Who give a fuck about u Sony fan boy and amazon not only amazon selling games and hardware amazom it's not even accurate so F off and sit on ur fat ass and play your ps3 games

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fermcr4732d ago (Edited 4732d ago )

I agree. I find it unbelievable how Microsoft could commit so many errors with the Xbox One. They where in a great position with the X360 and completely fu**ed up their next gen console. Who the hell in Microsoft thought the X1 with it's restrictions was a brilliant idea ?

Microsoft has some serious thinking to do and i don't think there's time to radically change (improve) the X1 before release.

EDIT: First thing to do is change that stupid name... then remove those restrictions.

CerebralAssassin4732d ago

I just dont understand why you cant just pop the disc back in the system once the 24 hr period hits. The whole idea of installing the entire game onto cloud is great. Verification on you having a legit copy makes perfect sense. But if you miss the verification time table you should be able to prove you own that game by having a physical disc in your possession and should be able to put the disc in to verify authenticity. I dont knkw if its just me but this seems like the common sense answer to play games offline.

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ThatCanadianGuy5144733d ago

Don't count on it.These decisions were made years ago by higher ups then the xbox team.Redmond HQ gave the O.K and now we just have to #Dealwithit

NameRemoved00174733d ago

Or just buy a PS4 and dodge the entire failure of DRM and online always all together while getting an already superior console.

Software_Lover4733d ago

The only problem with your statement is it's not "always on line". Its check in once every 24 hours either by internet or mobile hotpot on your phone.

I dont agree with it either way, but just wanted to correct your statement.

DigitalRaptor4733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

@ Software_Lover

There might be a distinct difference, but to the gamer and the consumer who this affects, it might as well be the same thing. It's basically saying that if you don't connect at least once every day for the rest of the Xbox One's lifecycle, you cannot play. To the people it concerns, the difference is non-existent because the concerns are identical.

koolaid2514733d ago

People forget that you can use the hot spot on your sell phone so basically you can play xbox 1 anywhere!!!

NameRemoved00174732d ago

@koolaid251 you going to pay $15 a month just so you can do that?

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vector4154733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

lol...always online is a killer for games. Look at Diablo 3. I know that game isn't that good, but one of the main reasons I think it didn't do well is because it's always online, no matter what, you cannot play it offline.

I remember the days of playing D2 offline on a laptop while I was somewhere with no internet connection...good times.

Now Xbox One says I can't do this. I am just really glad PS4 isn't going in the same direction! I am a life long Xbox fan who is probably going to buy a PS4 this time.

creepjack4733d ago

an online requirement has nothing to do with the reasons people dont like Diablo 3, lol.

HammadTheBeast4733d ago

Partially. A better example is sim city. Although its because they forced the game to work with always online, and the game play is sucky now.

vector4154733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

Yeah Sim City is a better example you're right. But I still stick to my Diablo 3 comment, because many gamers were REALLY pissed when they paid 60 bucks for a game they couldn't even play because of online issues. This wouldn't have happened if the game had an offline single player mode.

The point I'm trying to make is, I am sure a lot of gamers would prefer to have an option to play games offline if they wanted, and would be less likely to purchase a game or console that required for you to be online, or have to connect to the intrnet, just to play.

RavageX4733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

Oops, what I had to say had already been said so...carry on.

fermcr4732d ago (Edited 4732d ago )

I agree, Diablo 3 is not very good, but saying Diablo 3 didn't do well ? Are you referring to sales ?
That game sold millions and millions of copies. More then 10 million the last i heard.

Gravitic4733d ago

Wait, so that guy I just sent my digital game to, would have it revoked when I decide to go in to offline mode. It doesn't make sense. What stops me authenticating, sending a copy and then going offline to get the other benefits.

Moonman4733d ago (Edited 4733d ago )

They got the word they f###'d up. haha

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio32d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing32d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9232d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit32d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing32d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9232d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay34d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn234d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn234d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown34d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay34d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay34d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac33d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger34d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300034d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde34d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde33d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7535d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_33d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.