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Microsoft Cancels E3 Post-Press Conference Roundtable with Media

Press will not get an opportunity to learn more about the Xbox One after the show.

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GiantFriendlyCrab4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

Next: Microsoft cancels E3 conference

http://i.imgur.com/5B7Pq1T....

Muerte24944728d ago

the record straight, they avoid them. I guess they're hoping that the problems, rumors, and anything else just goes away before launch.

GrieverSoul4728d ago

Well, its a smart move for Microsoft.
Instead of explaining themselves and get bad press, they wont explain themselves and get less bad press.

abzdine4728d ago

i'm expecting the worst during their conference because i always thought talking to the press is a proof of confidence and all questions can be answered is full transparency!
Shame on you MS to do this to gamers!
4>1

xHeavYx4728d ago

I think this means M$ won't talk about Always Online and used games fee, and by cancelling the post press conference they will avoid answering those questions.
Meanwhile at Sony's E3 http://i.minus.com/iTxQ7Y4E...

jimbobwahey4728d ago

It's a smart move by Microsoft, but definitely bad for consumers.

I feel really sorry for the people who buy the Xbox One and find out about the used games block, online requirements and everything else after they've handed over cash. Microsoft's tactic of hiding this information from consumers is disgraceful.

Anon19744728d ago

If I came to sell you a product, showed you a presentation and then refused to answer any questions afterwards and just ducked out the back, would you buy?

What the hell is Microsoft thinking? Or should I saw, what are they hiding? Man up and stand behind your product, for better or worse.

creatchee4728d ago

@jimbobwahey

"I feel really sorry for the people who buy the Xbox One and find out about the used games block, online requirements and everything else after they've handed over cash."

Well, that's becoming less of a potential problem, as you and others have seemingly made it their goal in life to vomit your thoughts on the matter in as many Xbox One threads as humanly possible.

silenius4728d ago

If this is true, then they deserve the the M.E.F. (Major Epic Fail) Award of the decade.

2012-2013 these two years no matter what they developed it flopped big time.

Windows 8 = "Uber" Fail
MS Surface = "OMG" Fail
Xbox One = "OK now you are just ridiculous" Fail

Last 2 things I enjoyed from this company was back in 2009 when I installed W7 as OS.
And the xbox360, when it still had games.

Thanks M$ for the good memories...
Now move aside please...

DARK WITNESS4728d ago

It's like watching the Iron Giant climb to the top of a mountain, raise it's arms in victory and trip up.. Rolling down the mountain it goes, breaking up into body parts as it tumbles down...

Has any gaming company ever F"%^^ked up so hard !!

dumahim4728d ago

I wonder if they will give us answers during the press conference, but cancelled the round-table to avoid answering some tough questions directly, like what happened at the reveal.

ThanatosDMC4728d ago

It worked with RROD. Now fanboys talk like it never happened to them.

Boody-Bandit4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

If this is true?
MS can officially kiss my a**!

This is a clear indication that their E3 presentation will be all fluff and no substance.

I was holding out an extremely small shred of hope for E3 but now we know where MS stands with their XBOX ONE. They obviously are cancelling post press conference because they cant defend the indefensible. They feel their PR department and marketing team will warrant enough sales.

Sorry MS but consumers aren't THAT stupid. Your first year sales dictate the direction the console will head and early adopters are made up mostly of the hardcore audience which you appear to have turned your back on.

All I have to say is "CIAO, it's been fun while it lasted but we are CLEARLY headed in different directions."

*JUMPS SHIP*

Enemy4728d ago

Wow, looks like Microsoft are planning another vague conference full of Kinect and fake button-pushing. They don't want to answer the questions we've been asking since the reveal.

This is so shady it's not even funny.

darthv724728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

We can speculate as to why they canceled but only MS knows for certain.

An honest guess would be they want to wait until after Sony has theirs to see how things play out.

We all know DRM and used games are a hot topic and one of them is going to have to take point and be the first to bring it up. Them canceling their show is an implication they have no faith in how they want to answer at this time.

edit @dedicated...true. they did say that. This decision doesnt fit in with that sentiment i guess.

dedicatedtogamers4728d ago

Why, Microsoft? Didn't you just say "we need to do a better job of communication?"

How will you do that if you...you know, refuse to engage the press in dialog?

Muerte24944728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

If I'm correct, we were told to wait until E3 to get answers to pending questions. They had no problem doing a round table, right after the initial announcement. Hell didn't break loose until reports started coming in from Kotaku and Neogaf.

Why would they be waiting on Sony's response? Sony's stated that Disc-based DRM is up to publishers. They've also said that their console doesn't require an internet connection at all. Even if this were the case, Sony's press conference is after Microsoft's. I don't see where Microsoft would get a chance to respond.

The problem I, personally, have with Xbox One, is that there are too many requirements and not enough games.

ZodTheRipper4728d ago

Best console launch ever. And despite it having a negative effect on the industry as a whole, it's good that Microsoft sorted itself out. Nintendo and Sony will profit from that and in the long term, gamers will also thanks to that.

TheSurg4728d ago

@ThanatosDMC

It worked with psone too. Every person I know that had it for a while was forced to put their PSone upside down or in totally weird positions to make it read discs. Fanboys pretend it never happened.

Do I need to remind you of ps2 problems? Mine broke after 1 month...couldn't read any disc due to faulty drive that came with plenty of ps2. Yet you forgot about it.

If you mention RROD, mention those too or you weren't alive yet in psone and ps2 era?

guitarded774728d ago

Whatever it means, it's bad for us gamers. Honestly, we already know the answers to the questions. If MS is unwilling to answer, then the worst is probably true... and that sucks.

Sony is basically getting a free ride into their next-gen. Nintendo has backed out of a live E3 presser and now MS is not talking to the media on MEDIA DAY.

darthv724728d ago

I'm not disagreeing with what you said. In all honesty, i think they really underestimated sony and now they just dont know what to do next in regards to addressing the issues.

I personally feel that no matter what games they do show or even how many...will not make all the criticism they have taken go away.

The_Con-Sept4728d ago

New tweet #YouScaredBro?

Hahahahahaha.

abzdine4728d ago

Breaking news:

Sony's reaction to MS cancelling the conference
http://www.sonydefenseforce...

if there is a gif that describes the situation it's this one:
http://i.imgur.com/skgmjlP....

@xHeavYx:
Behind the scenes: http://i.minus.com/ibgH4dgQ...

MikeMyers4728d ago

They'll have to address it sooner or later. They may talk more during E3 or have a per-show. Either way well know before it is for sale to the public.

Larry Hryb already mentioned they need to be clearer so I doubt this is just to avoid it but you never know with Microsoft.

Knal4728d ago

@Brutally honest...Well said. But it was appearant that MS was all smoke and mirrors when they had to bring a circus on the stage in 2011 for Kinect and Usher on the stage last year. Laughable really. Its clear that they dont respect gamer's intelligence. Like we cant see that they are trying to distract us.

fr0sty4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

"Instead of explaining themselves and get bad press, they wont explain themselves and get less bad press."

It worked for them last time, with the MS faithful telling all the doubters "Wait for E3!". Next it'll be "We have (X amount of time) before launch. Wait for launch!".

SilentNegotiator4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

"ZOMG guys! Wait for teh E3!! Dey will answer all our questsheens!"

--Gullible top tier fanboy

loulou4728d ago

if true, then wtf are these clowns doing??

i want to buy an xbox 1, so i can continue to play the m$ exclusives and mulitplats on live and with the xbox controller.

but if questions dont get answered soon, then there is no way that an xbox 1 will be sitting under my tv alongside a ps4.

e3 is do or die... i will just have wait until someone makes an adapter so you can use xbox controllers with the ps4

microsft have lost the plot if true

Freedomland4728d ago

I think Microsoft in the same situation.

A very rich businessman asked his small son what he would like for Christmas.
"A baby brother please", he replied.
"I'm sorry, son, there's not enough time, it's only 3 weeks to Christmas".
"well, can't you put more men on the job"? the son suggested.

JokesOnYou4728d ago

Im assuming that they must have a on stage demonstration that will convicinly answer ALL questions or they have another soon to follow press event/roundtable in mind immediately after E3. If not I will have out my pitchfork right here on n4g because I agree with most here that its straight up BS to not give us solid answers at that point.

user55757084728d ago

not good to just avoid the problem. shows that they have no confidence in the Xbox One. and after they did this neither do I...

fei-hung4728d ago

Could this be why?

http://m.neogaf.com/showthr...

Apparently, there are rumours building up about MS having serious hardware problems.

Anon19744728d ago

http://blogs.canoe.ca/butto...

I did a bit more digging and actually it sounds like this is being overblown. MS isn't ducking anyone. The round table that was cancelled was actually rare (Sony doesn't do this at all, for example) and was cancelled due to scheduling conflicts. MS execs and spokesmen will still be available to answer questions and media have plenty of interviews booked.

This looked bad for MS without any context, but when you dig a bit deeper it looks like the pitchforks and torches came out a bit prematurly.

pixelsword4727d ago (Edited 4727d ago )

Dear XboX One,

I'm up!

Signed,

Your Number

pixelsword4727d ago (Edited 4727d ago )

@ J.O.Y.:

Don't lose hope; although most people argue and disagree with some of the things you say (I should know, I probably start the most trouble just about everywhere I go on/offline), no true gamer delights to see another gamer distraught.

As much as I complain and joke about various consoles, I would love it if everyone did well at this E3.

Hopefully what you said is true and perhaps Microsoft merely answers all questions onstage, making the post-conference unnecessary.

Live Kinect demos may have been something they were able to procure and perhaps that alone would answer all of the important questions about the XB1.

potedude4727d ago

I am starting to think the new Xbox is going to be released in 2014.

Too many things they haven't sorted yet for a 3013 release...

fr0sty4727d ago

@loulou

They already have one for PS3, however games that require a touch pad wouldn't work on XB1's controller.

BattleAxe4727d ago

Microsoft and the Xbox Done are looking worse day after day.

badz1494727d ago

When you can just fake everything and let the power of marketing do the selling?

And then Why even bother when you have CoD and NFL license, right?

I think I finally understand why DRM is non issue now on XB1. The damn thing wasn't designed for "games" to begin with! It's all about tv tv tv tv television tv tv sports sports sports tv tv...the xbox will become the next watercooler...tv tv tv television...(skips CoD)...xbox GO HOME!

Why o why4727d ago

Straight up pixel

Yeah, we bicker and banter but we're all brothers that share a common interest which is gaming even if the preferred platform differs between us. I don't want to see any of my brothers getting fcu*** up the jacksie by corporations.... slapped, maybe....fcu*** ...nah

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Mr_Nuts4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

I really feel like this whole "We have 15 games to show at our conference" is just something to TRY and win us over to get their console at launch so we will forget all about the DRM, blocking used games, the possible fee, profile locking etc. Then once they have us they'll not release a whole bunch of games like that ever again, we'll go straight back to what we've been going through since Kinect launched. Gears, Halo, Forza, Fable rinse and repeat.

Don't be fooled guys, think about it long term

DARK WITNESS4728d ago

exactly what I have been thinking..

and even if they say they are removing the drm/ always online etc... who is to say once we drop our pants they won't try and have another go at it with updates.

The fact that they have considered it in the first place is enough for me to say I am done with them.

ZodTheRipper4728d ago

Of course it is. It was exactly the same with X360 which was almost completely abandoned a few years after release. But this time people should be smarter ...normally.

amiga-man4728d ago

Exactly how I see it too, surely gamers are not going to fall for it, especially now M$ are not even confident enough to answer questions about their new console.

Shame on you M$.

jessupj4727d ago

Exactly.

But we all know they'll be a lot of idiots lining up day one.

Normally I can respect a person right to buy what they choose to, however, the xbox is a completely different matter.

We all know what direction M$ wants to take with the xb1 and it isn't about games.

I really don't understand xbox fanboys. They are the absolute worst of all fanboys purely for the fact they bend over for so much and then it starts catching on with other companies.

Mounce4727d ago

DAMAGE CONTROLLLLLL! D:

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THamm4728d ago

Time for Sony to go in for the kill and dispel all rumors, basically do everything that MS isn't doing.

Muerte24944728d ago

been doing this day of, and after ps4 announcement. There are countless articles where Yoshida or Cerny has spoken about them. This is ranging from always-online to mandatory DRM on all ps4 games.

irepbtown4728d ago

Let us not forget the campaign on Twitter/Neogaf against DRM and I think it was the 'only online' issue, in which top Sony folks responded in a positive way.

Not only has Sony learnt from its terrible PS3 launch, but it seems to be doing everything better than MS.

BOLO4727d ago

Xbox One boot sound.

majiebeast4728d ago

Right now this should be the Xbox One start up music.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Saints944728d ago

Is that you as the last comment? ^_^

JoySticksFTW4728d ago

@ Grindlefly

F'n Awesome!!

Just burst out laughing for real

Bubble for funny :D

Fairchild Channel F4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

As soon as the hard questions started being asked it would have turned into something like this anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

RedHawkX4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

yep seems to me they are running scared and I actually think the only thing they will show is multiplat titles and a cgi trailers. do not think they are prepared at all and because of this they want to get in and get out quickly.

ps4 gamers choice for next gen confirmed.

cr33ping_death4728d ago

And they wonder why people are getting upset over the information They released and are unwilling to Truely clarify... MS refusing to even help themselves out of the grave they've dug.

Persistantthug4728d ago

Is Microsoft intentionally trying to kill their XBOX brand?
It kinda seems like they are?

joeorc4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

"What the heck is going on?
Is Microsoft intentionally trying to kill their XBOX brand?
It kinda seems like they are?"

For Me in my own Opinion this is most likely the cause of this:

http://forums.n4g.com/The-C...

Microsoft has lost all 10! of the key people that started the xbox project over @ Microsoft!

that is not something you can take lightly, think about that Ed fries, 18 years over @ microsoft he was the guy who help make the Xbox a reality, help Microsoft in the direction to purchase Rare, and Also make courting one of the best 3rd party development studios in the world and that was Bungie with at the time a fresh and new iP which went on to be one of the thing's that put the xbox on the map for console gaming! and he is now Gone! from Microsoft, along with 9 other key xbox exec's!

jacksons984728d ago

@joeorc
Great article, that explains a lot.

liorishot4728d ago

nintendo is an actual flop, no games, bad hardware not even games in 1080p.

irepbtown4728d ago

Nintendo isn't really targeting hardcore gamers...
I'm sure most people that has/had the Wii has/had another console/PC(for gaming), or isn't much of a gamer.

That's why they sold a ridiculous amount of Wii's. Wii U however... that's a whole new story.

MRMagoo1234727d ago

@irepbtown

By the looks of it MS arent targeting the hardcore gamers either lol

n4g_someone4728d ago

hahaha, that's a good one man.

DJMarty4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

Microsoft U-turns incoming

They should just plug the plug on the PAY WALLED CABLE BOX, nobody wants it.

Sounds like Sony caught Microsoft sleeping, Microsoft clearly not ready to release ther PAY WALLED CABLE BOX.

4>1.....:)

CYCLEGAMER4728d ago

Whelp...I had a little bit of confidence in Microsoft b4 this news, Microsoft def avoiding the issues, I cannot support a company that wants to do that...instead of getting both, I guess the ps4 will be my first console of choice. RIP XB1

MostJadedGamer4728d ago

Guess MS doesn't agree with the saying that bad press is better then no press.

showtimefolks4728d ago

So lets not clear the air and keep a tight lip maybe people will forget about it. It's rumored MS advertisement budget is twice what's Sony is willing to spend. And guess what they are not gonna advertise to us the gamers

They will advertise on these TV shows to get the casual crowd to saw wow I have to buy one.

All Sony has to do is show up at E3 and they will win, it's not even competition when one side isn't even trying

It's crazy in a way that Sony hired the advertisement firm that use to do xbox360 advertisement and google to name few so just imagine how they sitting back coming up with smart advertisement. This is gonna be brutal

You can show 15 of the best exclusives ever but when you say DRM,Uer games are blocked and kinect 2 has to be connetd to play than those exclusives don't even matter

If MS doesn't answer the questions at E3 and any gamer is still loyal to them than go to hell, they are trying to rip us off and if we still act in this blind fanboys ways than shame on us

Nintendo and Sony will combined be epic at E3

itBourne4728d ago

Maybe they know they are doing shit people dont like, so instead of having an open forum about it, they release an official statement that has been carefully worded by 134 people in an office to put a spin on things, making it sound as good as it possibly can.

lucaskeller14728d ago

Watch this and tell me the new user interface isn't laggy. It also proves the reveal was staged and fake. Yet they had the audacity to lie and even comment "did you see how fast that was, lets see it again." *facepalm*.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

THamm4728d ago

"You don't have to remember what channel its on anymore"

"You can just say: Xbox, Channel 13"

HAHAHAHAHA

Nefariouz4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

The following is more or less speculation. But some sources have stated that M$ is having problems with their eSRAM and as a result have to downclock their GPU.

Read more here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/xbo...

MYSTERIO3604728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

I guess MS didn't want to miss The price is right after their E3 press conference.

MegaLagann4728d ago

I feel like Microsoft right now is that kid who has a nightmare about going to high school with no pants on. Except high school is E3 in this example.

NumOnePS3FanBoy4727d ago

There can only be two reasons as to why they chose to do this.

1. They spend a good time trying to undo the mess they made at the actual conference and therefore don't need to spend extra time with the press oooorr
2. They spend the conference time on stuff other than t.v and decide to not have the sit down with the press because they have yet to fully come up with a clear answer.

Psn8004727d ago

There in trouble , what do you expect from the most hated corporation in the world through there ultimate greed .

kenshiro1004727d ago (Edited 4727d ago )

Microsoft keeps digging themselves further into a hole. They need to come clean with the their new console. How do they expect people to react when they do this?

And didn't they say they need to communicate better? Then how in the world do they expect to communicate when they canceled the round table?

Wow, just wow.

Captain Qwark 94727d ago

weeeeeeeel wtf lol i spend all this time defending the x1 and they pull some sh*t like this. i hate to do this but im retracting everything positive ive said about x1

to me, this just shows your afraid to face your accusers and no longer have confidence in your product. i dont like this, its the equivalent of a review embargo, you dont want the media to know about your product because you know it will impact sales. garbage!

otherZinc4727d ago

LMAO! SONY didn't offer "cohesive message" either! Yet they get a pass on the net.

SONY, didn't show a console, harddrive space, and no day 1 game announcement. Yet, get all the passes possible.

M$ is doing the right thing, if you want to know what's going on, pay attention to the E3 M$ 2013 Press Conference.

kenshiro1004727d ago

But Sony showed games, didn't back out of the media roundtable and created hype for their console.

The b-but Sony mentality doesn't work so stop defending Microsoft.

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SpideySpeakz4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

Yep, more 'answers' at E3 my buttock. I knew they were full of it.

RedHawkX4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

yep and there loyal servants will just say just wait until they release the xbox one. then when they release it they will say just wait a few months they need to get updates out and such and get some time to make more games. then they will say just wait until e3 2014. they just keep saying wait wait wait.

mike32UK4728d ago

I don't know if "full of it" is the correct way to look at it. I feel at this point the negative responses has thrown them out of whack, and they may not even know what they are going to do fully. For the first time since they entered the console game I am quite worried for microsoft, I wouldn't be surprised if they delayed the launch until early 2014. Which would be nice for Sony but i really want both to do well to help drive innovation. I'll be getting a PS4 day one but I hope for the sake of the Industry Microsoft don't stray off course!

first1NFANTRY4728d ago

Not looking good M$. Sounds like their scared or don't want to answer any questions that may dig them in a bigger whole. Just what are you trying to hide here?

Frankly any type of positive media would do them some good.

Haules4728d ago

"Press will not get an opportunity to learn more about the Xbox One after the show."

What a joke company! they are hiding from the public...

Darrius Cole4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

That is exactly what it is.

Microsoft's problem is that the people will reject the truth about the system. They have been running around saying that they have not been communicating their approach to used games and DRM well. That is not correct; they have communicated their approach to used games and DRM perfectly. The people just rejected it, so Microsoft is choosing not to talk about it again.

PSVita4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

This is not communicating

brave27heart4728d ago

Surely not...I mean they talked to the press for hours after the reveal. Why wouldnt you at E3, the mecca for gaming?

Just gives the impression they know there will be some difficult questions asked.

Thatguy-3104728d ago

Expect more restriction bombs. They got torn apart after the X bone event I fully expect them to try and dodge anything after e3. More obscurity info coming.

Gamer-Z4728d ago

You don't say... lol i knew they would chicken out.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio16d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing16d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit16d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing16d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay18d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn219d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn218d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown18d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay18d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay18d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac18d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger18d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300018d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde18d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde18d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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Agent7520d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_17d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.