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Nintendo Should Become A Pure Software Developer

"Nintendo have put themselves in a precarious position in terms of hardware releases. With the Wii and now the Wii U looking to be well weaker than their generational counterparts, Nintendo are forcing gamers to buy more than one console to appreciate a good variety of gaming. " | Explosion.com

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animegamingnerd4839d ago

did people forget why sega had to become software developer?

Gazondaily4838d ago (Edited 4838d ago )

Completely disagree with the article. The Wii U hasn't even gotten off the ground yet and people are making knee jerk reactions of gloom and doom. By this logic and the PS3's rocky start, Sony should have thrown the towel too.

Like it or not, it is Nintendo that pushes the boundaries as far as innovation is concerned. The industry needs the likes of Nintendo to add something fresh and to innovate in terms of hardware. Nintendo's departure from the hardware game would be a COLOSSAL loss for the industry.

nukeitall4838d ago

Nintendo often has a strategy that ensures survival even if their platform tanks.

That said, it is just too soon to judge the Wii U out. Similar to how Nintendo turned the 3DS fortune around and look at them now.

FriedGoat4838d ago (Edited 4838d ago )

That "innovation" is what has totally put me off Nintendo, I loved the N64, I loved the Cube and everything before it, The Wii on the other-hand just wasn't for me, every game I played seemed like a dumbed down version of its predecessor. I liked galaxy and G2 don't get me wrong, but I preferred Mario 64, I'm still waiting on a sequel.

Its things like warioware, have you played the wii version? It has like NO content at all, after playing twisted on the GBA Warioware wii is like less than a quarter of the game. The control schemes actually tended to ruin the games for me, skyward sword is one of the only Zeldas I have stopped playing, mainly because there was no exploration and it just generally was nowhere near the quality of past Zeldas.

The 3DS is the same, had one since launch, the games are like 30+ quid and not even 5 hours long (kid icarus being the exception.) I feel really screwed over by Nintendo for my 3DS purchase, £250 for something that just attracts dust.

I do know one thing, If the WiiU does do badly it will be good for us, because Nintendo will start focusing on games again instead of attracting casuals and moms wanting to get fit.

2pacalypsenow4838d ago

used to be the same for Ps3 , with time it will pass

OccludedGamer4838d ago

Careful Septic that's a lot of sense your making there, it's borderline dangerous round here.

Seriously though, I don't blame the gamers for the reception the Wii-U is receiving. I blame the journalists. Gaming media is the cause.

Unless the standard for gaming journalism is raised then we're gonna be stuck with these sorts of crappy baseless opinions springing up all over the place.

I'm not even on about the writing skills, that's not even the issue. I would happily read an article with bad spelling etc. provided the author took the time to make a well thought out article with a genuine point.

squarecircle4838d ago

How do you expect it to get off it's feet when there are 2 more technically powerful consoles on the horizon which everyone is waiting out for?

PS3 could afford a price cut and was one of the last to launch, which meant it had time to recover without other consoles looming over it.

The Wii U is in neither of those positions the PS3 was in. It can't afford a price cut or that would mean they need to sell 3 or 4 games with each console to make a profit and they have 2 highly anticipated machines on the horizon; which everyone is waiting for.

Gazondaily4838d ago

Nintendo doesn't need the power. So what if the other two consoles are technically superior; it doesn't undermine Nintendo's ability to deliver great games.

AAACE54838d ago

I used to think it would be good for them to drop consoles, but seeing the direction the games industry is going... we need them more than ever!

Because of ms and sony. Lots of developers are gone. Cost are up on consoles and games. Pc's require a lot more power just to say they have the superior game. We have less choice in variety of games and releases per year. And that will only get worse in time as developers wont be able to afford development and investors will only want to put their money on AAA games and very few new IP.

Nintendo keeps things in reality. By trying to show us that you dont need a super powerful console to have fun!

ahronith4838d ago

This whole talk about Nintendo consoles dont have enough power...By that logic the PS2 should have tanked. And Septic, i agree with you 100%

herbs4838d ago (Edited 4838d ago )

Anyone who disagreed with what Septic stated in his first post doesn't have a good grasp of the gaming industry strait up.

DomceM4837d ago

lol. Old hardware is innovation? nah. Nintendo is one gimmick ahead of everyone else. wish they just made a normal console with good hardware and their ips.

Wii mote was a gimmick and still is.

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FlyingFoxy4838d ago

You can't use the Sega argument here with the Wii U, Dreamcast was ahead of it's time for at least a year and then some. games were much better looking than N64 and it had plenty of perfect and better arcade ports as well as a handful of very good exclusives.

Wii U is only a bit better than last gen which started a long time ago, so it's a completely different kettle of fish here. Sega had to go into developing software because the hype of PS2 killed off the DC, not because it was a bad system.

Zodiac4839d ago

Want to play PlayStation games? Buy a PlayStation.

Want to play Xbox games? Buy and Xbox.

Want to play Nintendo games? Buy a Nintendo console.

If people want to play a certain companies game, but won't buy the hardware, then you probably don't want to play it that badly.

Nintendo is not going to stop production of hardware because the consumer would rather play Zelda on the 360.

Sure, they would get more money by going third party/publisher, but the companies put a lot of pride into these consoles. Sure, the industry is all about money, but then people forget why they went into the industry to begin with. They love to play and make video games.

The only way for Nintendo to leave hardware is if they go bankrupt, which is probably not going to happen with over 15 billion dollars in cash reserves.

PopRocks3594839d ago

"If people want to play a certain companies game, but won't buy the hardware, then you probably don't want to play it that badly."

I think this part of it sums it up best for me. I mean hey, I already get labeled as a fanboy all too consistently on this site, so I may as well be honest.

I don't mind buying Nintendo hardware for Nintendo games, mostly because I know what I'm getting out of it is a fun experience for myself. Other people have typed back to me how it's a waste of money for one reason or another, but as long as I'm enjoying myself and I'm satisfied with the end result how is it a waste?

It's not like Microsoft and Sony are forever cutting edge with their hardware either; the PS1 and PS2 were the weakest consoles of their generation and PCs almost always outdo new consoles within a few years, sometimes months.

You would not ask for Sony and Microsoft to make their games on PC for this reason (though Microsoft has occasionally tried to take a bite out of the PC crowd before, but nothing too ambitious).

FriedGoat4838d ago

lol Microsoft has tried to take a bite out of the PC crowd before? Microsoft was a PC only company all but 12 years ago.

And Sony still publish games on the PC, Planetside for instance.

Oh_Yeah4838d ago

Gears of war, halo, fable, Alan Wake, crackdown, they're all on pc..The only exclusive AAA franchise that Microsoft didn't put on pc is Forza And pc's are always more powerful than consoles...chu smoking on?

ahronith4838d ago

Zelds on 360...that just sounds wrong.
*throws up in mouth a little*

jacksheen00004839d ago

The problem is Nintendo lack the resources to make quality games.

All Nintendo really have under their belt is Retro; which I m afraid to say isn't enough manpower to crank out games in a timely manner.

Now we all know that the Wii U is a underpowered gaming console, but to say its was the fault of the weak CPU/GPU is not realistic thinking.

Realistically, what seem to be the case here,is They're stubbornness to take on the gaming with very little game development resources was suicide.

All this could have been prevented a long long time ago. They're strict low cost policy seems to get them in trouble every single time.

Sadly, They can't seem to let go to the fact that going beyond the outter limitation to spend more money is key to stay on top of business market.

Next time, Nintendo stay away from making any bold statements in the future.

Nuff said!

animegamingnerd4839d ago

what you mean they lack resources to make quality games have you seen the scores both mario galaxy's got and what about monolith many people consider xneoblade to be one of the bets RPG'S this gen

jacksheen00004839d ago (Edited 4839d ago )

xneoblade and Mario galaxy are both excellent game.

But what I meant is Nintendo don't have the manpower/enough R&D divisions to support all of our gaming demands, both causal and core.

Recently, Just about every game released by Nintendo so far is either Mario, rehashed(games/DLC), causal games, mini games, etc.

And the only way I think Nintendo is going to dreamcast their way out of this sh_t hole is buy more game studios or hire more experienced DEv. Hiring THQ employee was a good start.

AdvanceWarsSgt4838d ago

Intelligent Systems is chop liver now??? They just released arguably the best Fire Emblem in the franchise, created and developed the awesome Advance Wars series, and have made good-great games on all of Nintendo's handhelds.

Adnan_rules4838d ago

nintendo dont make quality games? sony and microsoft dont compare to sonys first party franchises

RFornillos44838d ago

"The problem is Nintendo lack the resources to make quality games."

yes, that's the problem of Nintendo. they don't make quality games. they only have 3 or more games in the top 10 video games of all time in most listings and reviews, with the 2 or 3 in the top 5, one of which is the no. 1.

shame nintendo, shame. next time, aim for 10 out 10...

Kos-Mos4838d ago

Why do you still comment after your nuff`said ????????????????????????

jacksheen00004838d ago

Simple.

If someone ask me to explain my commit further to get a better idea on what I m trying to say, than I do it.
Anything out side of that I will simple just ignore it.

does that answer your question?

VikTheStampede4838d ago

LOL, what? XDD

If anything where nintenod falls behind in its hardware, they more than make up for it with its fantastic software.

Realplaya4838d ago

Yu have a point but I don't think they have a lack of resourses. The mario games are ok to me Nintendo is the king of 2d and 3d platformers but what hurts them is they jumped on the HD bandwagon so late that there basically playing catch up hell they even admitted it. With that said they now are gaining experience I will go on record and put this out there what ever mario game they create next will look sexy amd play like a beast.

deafdani4838d ago

You really have no idea of the ridiculous amount of game studios that Nintendo owns, do you? They're easily one of the biggest game publishers out there, if not the biggest.

Your argument isn't grounded in reality at all.

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WeAreLegion4838d ago (Edited 4838d ago )

I understand the "If you want to play Nintendo games, buy a Nintendo system." mentality, but there are so few games on the Nintendo platforms that I want to play. I can't justify paying so much for a system when there are only a few games I will play. My Wii U was a gift, so I will never sell it. I just wish there were more quality games coming out for it. :/

TechnicianTed4838d ago (Edited 4838d ago )

I can understand that. I didn't buy a ps3 until 3 years after it launched, because there was nothing on it I wanted to play until then. And the price was way too high.

At the end of the day though it's all down to preference. The Nintendo systems have always had games on them I loved that the other systems didn't offer.

Not everyone is going to have the same tastes, it doesn't mean a system is bad because you don't like the games on it, it just means you don't like the games.

I'm sure things will pick up for the Wii U, it's just got off to a very slow start. Nintendo won't give up on it though, it will just take time for the libary to build up.

TruthbeTold4838d ago

Well, since you never buy Nintendo consoles, and your Wii U was a gift, then hopefully between the Wii games you've missed, and the games for Wii U that you like, you'll have plenty of good gaming to supplement whatever your other favorite(s) are.

Look on the bright side. :D

schlanz4837d ago

Its called time.

Give it some time.

The ps3 didn't start rocking until mid to late 2009.

Better example perhaps is the 3ds, it started off awfully weak but is now shaping up to be more than a worthy successor to the sublimely awesome DS. Systems dont become must-own overnight.

WeAreLegion4837d ago (Edited 4837d ago )

Good responses, guys! I did actually own a Wii and have played most of the great Wii games. In fact, I just bought Metroid Prime 3 yesterday. It's one that I loved, but never finished. :) The Weird thing is...for me, the PS3 was a hit from day one. I played RFOM online for months! Motorstorm and the great PANEL games helped, as well. I'm easily pleased by Sony, it seems.

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millzy1024838d ago

i don't see it as forcing me, ive been playing nintendo longer than playstation and xbox, does that mean there forcing me to buy there consoles for there games, no. i like nintendo games so i buy nintendo hardware, i like sony games so i buy playstation and i used to like xbox games so i had an xbox, its about what i want as a gamer/ consumer and like the dude said above if people want to play nintendo games but not on nintendo hardware then they don't to play them that much. i never own just 1 console i like to have them all anyway.

besides nintendo would go purely hand held before 3rd party.

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U.S. patent examiner rejects Nintendo’s summoning characters patent as obvious: non-final ruling

The rejection is non-final (and even when such rejections are labeled as “final”, the process is far from over, given that there can be, at minimum, an appeal to the Federal Circuit).

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Relientk7747d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Good, as they should! A game mechanic like that shouldn't be locked behind a patent, and Nintendo didn't invent it either.

PRIMORDUS46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Nintendo wants to keep wasting money on bullshit lawsuits, real smart in this economy. They should put that money aside for other game projects. On the other hand, I don't care if they waste it all either, and they are screwed in the future maybe that will teach them a lesson.

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Nintendo Completes Share Repurchase and Sets Price for Secondary Offering

Nintendo completed its share repurchase and set its secondary offering price at 8,347 yen ahead of March 16 delivery.

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Nintendo Suing U.S. Government Over Tariffs

Nintendo filed a lawsuit in the United States Court of International Trade.

Nintendo of America is suing the United States government over the sweeping tariffs President Donald Trump put in place last year, according to a complaint filed Friday in the U.S. Court of International Trade and obtained by Aftermath.

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Deathdeliverer72d ago

Well dayum lol. Old agent orange pissing off every industry and nation.

0hMyGandhi71d ago

The fact that you have ANY disagrees will forever baffle me. And to the (apparent) MAGA contingent that exists on this website, enjoy your 8-9 dollar gas.

AuraAbjure70d ago (Edited 70d ago )

Yes, they had better be pissed after Trump told them the way they rip off the USA is over.

EveryPlatformGamer72d ago

LOL I read this on gaff, will they refund the money back to the gamers? highly unlikely. Didn't they just raise prices and pass it onto the gamers? Only Nintendo would send out the Ninjas to the US government.

-Foxtrot71d ago

That’s what I was thinking, imagine them winning hypothetically, getting a s**t load of money back which they would have lost if they hadn’t raised their prices and it’s business as normal.

It would just mean people paid more for no reason since they got the money back anyway.

Outside_ofthe_Box71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

A lot of companies partially passed the cost to consumers instead of all of it. They would still have to at least pay that back to gamers, but we know that won't happen. What's also sad is that prices won't come back down after the initial hike caused by tariffs.

People didn't understand the full repercussions of tariffs. That alone should have cost him the presidency if people knew it was a permanent price hike for consumers

Inverno71d ago

The people should sue these companies for having to over pay cause of these tariffs.

Eonjay71d ago

Naw they should sue the government for forcing the tax to begin with. No one reasonably expects these companies to absorb the taxes. Many smaller companies tried and were shut down or faced to increase prices to try to maintain their business. The tariffs effect everyone.

Inverno70d ago

I meant it mostly as a joke cause we all know the costs of these tariffs were passed onto the consumer. But it's seems no matter how vocal we are here in the states our "representatives" don't seem to care enough to represent us. And things are about to get worse.

Killer2020UK70d ago

The companies were doing what the law required then to do, the tariffs however were illegally implemented. Usually it's criminals we punish, you seem to have different ideas 🤷‍♂️

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