Exactly. When I read "More about....services", I just thought "How is that physically possible for the Xbox brand to be more about services?? Are they going to cut out games entirely?"

Didn't anyone seek to report this article for the misleading title?

pc is about to get even better!

"In other news, Gabe said that Valve wants to move on to DRM-free releases"

also since source engine 2 is coming imagine the free amazing content on pc!

http://www.dsogaming.com/ne...

@ Cam977 below

"EA’s president of labels Frank Gibeau said while giving his Keynote at GamesCom 2012 that he’s seen Sony and Microsoft’s new machines."

http://www.gamesthirst.com/...

maybe there is some truth then?

it seems people still believe that powerful hardware only means prettier graphics but they couldn't be more wrong. More power, specially for physics and AI will enhance games beyond what any gimmick could.

Not sure if this is the right wording to express my point but my English is limited.

You can always attain such effects by simply taking focus away from processing... you guessed it, the graphics. Optimization and stability will lead to better games far more than blindly upping the power and causing development costs to rise.

Great games have always existed regardless of power. Or all those ps1/xbox classics simply deal now that they are "outdated"?

@hennessey86:

Actually, more power is not necessary in hardware or more of x, y, and z.

It is often to do with the tools available and the ease of using that "power" or better said, possibilities.

PS3 is an excellent example. It's processing power is almost unmatched, yet poor design caused it to lag behind its direct competitor. Some smart design decisions (instead of bonehead ones) would have made it a screaming monster!

@scofios Yes it was the weakest of the bunch, but you had alot of talented devs that made kickass games despite the limitations.

To all the people downplaying the importance of power look at the wii's lineup vs the ps3/360's lineup. Really are you people this dense? Sorry it's not even a contest.

You can sit there and scream retro pride ect all you want, but new generation games should take advantage of more powerful hardware.

"The most powerful console is last place, and the least powerful console is at the top!" Well since i am not a shareholder of either company, do you have a relevant point for a gamer?

Sorry never was interested in the sales game, funny how during the gamecube's gen, nintendo fans were it's all about the games. This gen it's lol #1 in sales and the highest metacritic score ever, so will good games be the goto argument for the wii u.

Always a nintendo guy shouting about how "power" is overrated, yeah yes it's easy to say that when your games have been the same since the gamecube. Why would power matter to games that are still stuck in the past.

I swear too many retards think, just because gamers think power is important, that we are all mindless graphics whores.

So why do you nintendo guys need to buy the wii u, the wii should be more than sufficient since you don't deem power or graphics as relevant just gameplay. If that is truly the case you should be perfectly happy with the original nintendo entertainment system's graphics

@madjedi

"You can sit there and scream retro pride ect all you want, but new generation games should take advantage of more powerful hardware."

There you said it *take advantage of more powerful hardware*. Keyword "take advantage of"! PC has plenty of brute force power, but is rarely taken well advantage of.

It is about easily accessible power that will make an impact.

"Sorry never was interested in the sales game, funny how during the gamecube's gen, nintendo fans were it's all about the games. This gen it's lol #1 in sales and the highest metacritic score ever, so will good games be the goto argument for the wii u."

To be fair, there will always be people saying something about something on every side of the fence. Stereotyping an entire group of people based on individual experiences isn't realistic.

Finally, sales is *THE BEST* method of determining demand for a product. If consumers buy one item over another, then there are more people vouching for it than another competitors product, pure and simple. It is the strongest vote, regardless of what the reason is.

FYI, no I'm not much of Nintendo fan.

"Always a nintendo guy shouting about how "power" is overrated, yeah yes it's easy to say that when your games have been the same since the gamecube. Why would power matter to games that are still stuck in the past."

What is so different about Xbox 360/PS3 games? It is pretty much the same games that existed on the PS2/original Xbox just a larger scale.

Furthermore, Wii actually has games that has never really been done prior with motion control. That little popular thing that changed an entire industry and propelled consoles to grandmas and soccer moms.

"I swear too many retards think, just because gamers think power is important, that we are all mindless graphics whores."

Nothing you have said have told me anything else, albeit I don't necessarily believe that about gamers in general.

"So why do you nintendo guys need to buy the wii u, the wii should be more than sufficient since you don't deem power or graphics as relevant just gameplay. If that is truly the case you should be perfectly happy with the original nintendo entertainment system's graphics"

There is a lot of "generality" in what you are saying so it's hard to discuss, but I think what most people talk about power, they are talking about negligible increase in power. By almost all respect the PS3 and Xbox 360 is on par, and any differences are almost negligible. They really don't enable much difference and I certainly don't want to pay gobs of many for this negligible impact.

If you want power to matter, make it so. Don't give me something that I can't tell!

Ironically, the Wii U is again introducing new "power" that other consoles don't have, such as the tablet. It also introduces a much better facility to handle new ways to experience your game that isn't possible on other consoles. Example of this is the PS3 inability to have cross game chat, which Wii U will have plenty of RAM to handle. Not everything in hardware power has to be to "graphics..." or richer environments.

Well then sell your console. You clearly dont need a gaming PC or consoles. They are redundant to you as you can play games on your smartphone and/or tablet. Why spend money on a device that will become redundant?

Consoles will always be bought for 1 reason and 1 reason only: to play games. All the other crap is just a bonus. No one will buy a console to access facebook, stream movies or listen to music. That is why apps on a console are not a necessity. They are nice to have but no will buy a console for them.

Are you trying to say they were wrong to do so?

Home Consoles from here on out will me multimedia & multi-service devices.
Frankly, I don't see why that has to be "wrong".

Why can't we all have both, Imalwaysright?

"Well then sell your console. You clearly dont need a gaming PC or consoles. They are redundant to you as you can play games on your smartphone and/or tablet. Why spend money on a device that will become redundant??

"Consoles will always be bought for 1 reason and 1 reason only: to play games. All the other crap is just a bonus. No one will buy a console to access facebook, stream movies or listen to music. That is why apps on a console are not a necessity. They are nice to have but no will buy a console for them."

1. Never use the word always because nothing is forever.

2. People want media devices in their consoles.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012...

http://news.cnet.com/For-So...

3. Gone are the days that consoles are used in your words for gaming because the "hardcore gaming" community can't sustain them.

4. So people didn't buy the PS3 because it was the cheapest Bluray player? Or that you could use Linux on it correct? Or people didn't get an Xbox because it could be a replacement for over priced cable?

Look I understand you are passionate about gaming but really if you think that consoles are only for gaming than you are really foolish.

Different elections. Different scum. Same results.