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PS6 Will Not Be A Digital Only Console, Says Former PlayStation Boss

Sony Interactive Entertainment's next console, the PS6, will not be digital only, according to former PlayStation boss Shawn Layden.

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Vits103d ago

Not trying to be rude, but I think Layden has absolutely nothing to do with Sony for almost a decade at this point.

Eonjay103d ago

I don't even know why people doubt its gonna support discs too. Of course it will. Once Sony realized they could sell it as an add on, the whole conversation is moot at this point. Because Money. I doubt they will ever stop supporting disc.

Vits102d ago

Well, the reason is pretty obvious. It’s likely something being pushed hard by investors and probably upper management as well. Just think about it from a financial perspective: fewer SKUs to manage, lower expenses in both manpower and logistics, not to mention more money per game unit sold.

The money they would make from selling you a disc drive add-on is basically nothing compared to the extra percentage they earn by being the sole seller of digital games. When you factor in the savings on logistics as well, the argument becomes pretty clear.

That said, there’s also a significant marketing advantage for Sony if they continue supporting discs. As they could end up being the only major provider of physical media games. Xbox, if it continues to exist in its current form, will likely go fully digital to focus on Game Pass, and Nintendo is already about 90 percent digital with its Game-Key approach. So Sony has the chance to keep supporting physical media while also taking a subtle jab at the competition.

Redemption-64103d ago

He still has access to information than almost anyone outside Sony

Neonridr103d ago

no, because Sony wants to sell you a $100 addon so you can play your games.

fr0sty103d ago

And their competition has no such add-on for their digital consoles, meaning if you got the cheap one for christmas, there's no hope of upgrading it to be able to play your old games. I'll gladly take the $100 add-on approach to that.

andy85103d ago

Rather they do that than have all digital sadly. That 100 cost would be clawed back by only 2 physical games

RedDevils102d ago

Still better than Nintendo using fake cartridges.

MayorPauline103d ago

If this gen is any indication there will totally be a digital only PS5 model. Let's not kid ourselves here. There's going to be 2 SKU's again.

fr0sty103d ago

I think what he's saying is that there will still be options to upgrade the digital only model to include a disc drive, much like the current PS5 slim.

hiawa23103d ago

Yes, that is exactly how it will be. Disc add-on if you want to pay a little more so it won't be digital only.

Eonjay103d ago

Yes of course. That makes perfect sense given the evidence from this gen.

Pyrofire95103d ago

No I'm fairly certain they will do what they do now, 1 sku with an expansion slot for a drive. It simplifies production and gives people the option to get a drive later if they want.

ocelot07103d ago

Probably 1sku digital only. Can buy it use your pS5 disc addon.

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andy85103d ago

Youd have to be pretty braindead to think it would be

badz149103d ago

I would be fine with a BD drive add-on they started with the slim if it means more power for a more affordable price. better yet, if they allow it to use the PS5 BD add-on by default. it's not like the games run from the disc anyway, and it's totally doable. would be a huge win-win situation for both Sony and gamers

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma36d ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay35d ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran835d ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger35d ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm2335d ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Talking Aliens: The Video Games With Author Mike Diver

Skewed and Reviewed have posted an interview with Author Mike Diver about his pending book on Aliens video games.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay37d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn237d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn237d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown37d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay37d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay37d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac36d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger37d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300037d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde37d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde37d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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