Did Wildlight's ambitious multiplayer game stand a chance in today's market?
The developer behind the infamous shooter Highguard seems to be nearing its end, as Wildlight begins wiping its online presence.
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Don't get the point of opening a studio to make a guaranteed flop. They didn't have enough funds to keep people employed so that they could keep the game updated, which meant the game was going to shut down with or without their GOTY announcement. They had the talent, they could've been rolling in that successful indie game money if they had just made something else with a price tag. It's crazy.
Sucks for the members.
Next don't make a game nobody wants, and in a genre that's way over saturated.
VGChartz's Lee Mehr: "Whether a more cautionary tale about relying on future plans, Hero shooters in today's market, or suspicious advertising, Highguard nevertheless earns some appreciation. It's not often a shooter feverishly pastiches so many other personalities and comes out cementing its own. The drawback in Wildlight's case, though, is how said identity conflicts with player engagement, as though the fervor of exploring minute details distracted from grander structural concerns. But even with those criticisms and a roadmap now left unrealized in mind, what's left is still a rewarding shooter that knows how to make you say "just one more game... just one more game.""
Story Mode on why live service games can't expect to thrive on just competence, that they need something more. In the case of Marathon, "With Bungie at the helm, the same Bungie that defined not one but two generations of gaming — with Halo in 2001 and Destiny 2 in 2017 — ‘just another extraction shooter’ isn’t going to cut it.
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I think it'll get a month or two before it disappears... We don't need a 3rd Halo esque game. We already got Halo and Destiny
Probably not as fast but it will eventually
It seems it will have its dedicated hardcore fanbase but as soon as the next shiny GaaS game is out they’ll move on or go back to the one they were already playing for months
The hate for this is so forced. Saw some people being triggered the game has a positive rating on steam. Marathon doesn't need very high players to be successful. It needs a consistent player base. For example, look at a game like Warframe. Within the last 3 years, the game normally gets between 50K-70K on steam a day and has only gone above 15OK 3 times in 6 years. I seriously feel like this game doing well long-term might put some very miserable gamers on suicide watch.
It's not hate that's killing these games, it's apathy. Nobody gives a shit or is asking for Concord, Marathon, etc. the crux is no-one cares, so it won't make the money wasted on it and it will fail. I'll admit I quite liked Marathon as an IP but any nostalgia or goodwill towards that was lost the moment I saw the visual diarrhea on display in that first trailer.
Nobody gives a shit, yet a bunch snowflakes do nothing but keep hating, funny how works. They people who supposedly don't care about it, cry about them the most. You never asked for any of the games that exist. They were made. You didn't ask for Destiny, Warframe, Witcher, GOW, TLOU, GTA, Expedition 33, Arc, Zelda or a majority of gamed that exist. Devs make the games they think people might like, most, especially indies fail, but some find a base and become successful, even if for a little bit.
It used to be entertaining watching hiw easily triggered games make some people. Now it's just pathetic. This type of hate I am referring to is not exclusive to live service games. GOY is a single-player game, yet we all saw the hate from a certain group of gamers. Bet these same gamers will be ready to start their hate campaign when the new naughty dog gets gameplay. Those same gamers already started attacking Wolverine.
The desire to constantly keep hating on almost every other game be it single-player or live service games will have more negative impact on games than some studios known for making live service games making more live service games
Again, nobody cares, except for those who constantly cry about it.
@redemption oh no, people attacked a game that hasn't released yet, does that bother you? kinda hypocritical to call other people snowflakes then. I don't get why people are so bothered by it, it shouldn't change your enjoyment or view of the game at all. You think no one ever said anything negative about Ratchet and Clank, or Sunset overdrive, or spiderman and according to you thats way worse than shitty live service games, but what did actually change for Insomniac? thats right, nothing! if the creators arent bothered by it, you probably shouldnt be either.
Really it's not hate? Alt-right gaming YouTube channels have been all over Marathon, the Destiny fanbase, and the Arc Raiders fanbase. All want it to fail, why because the colors are too bright and aren't casual enough?
Y'all gotta let go of Concord as well. The gaming community loves chasing games that are long and gone. Almost like they're chasing down an ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend.
Ooof you guys are so sensitive. I mean, believe whatever I guess. I've no horse in this race but I'm pretty certain it's going to fail. Don't hate me for truths you find hard to swallow. I'm not saying there isn't hate for this game. I'm saying that's not what will kill it. You just need to make money with whatever supposed market there is for this. That won't happen.
"They people who supposedly don't care about it, cry about them the most"
"Again, nobody cares, except for those who constantly cry about it."
...he says, while crying about it. You're absolutely right in a completely un-self-aware kind of way.
Multiplayer people may care. I’m a single player gamer so yeah I don’t care about these games. Casuals are a different story though. If a game gets popular they’ll jump in.
Yeah that's what i was thinking.
it's not for me but i think it will make a dedicated fanbase happy for a long time
The hate is justified; the people managing these companies want us to consume whatever bullshit they drop at our feet whenever the fiscal quarter turns over. Marathon's problem is Highguard's problem is Concord's problem is AAA gaming's problem right now: the c-suite suits WHO DON'T PLAY VIDEO GAMES are chasing the lowest common denominator, applying business theory to an inherently artistic medum. They all want a formula to catch lightning in a bottle **without letting the artists make art**. There's no creative vision or passionate pursuit behind games like Marathon, it's all spreadsheets and focus groups and what's charting on Twitch or YouTube.
Gunplay is solid for this game and has been what I've been looking for in awhile. But everything else comes off as mid/nothing special to me.
I hate these types of games so i’m not the best judge of them but what i saw online was one of the most boring shit i’ve seen in a long time. Concord and Highguard looked more fun to me.
They were warned the moment that trailer released, they refused to listen and now they blame the people that warned them.
You placed an ok game on a grand stage and wanted it to be a showstopper from the get go, when an appropriate plan wouldve been to stay humble until you get some traction and could build it into something great.
That would've been your best bet, but even that would be asking a lot when the visual identity of this game is so incredibly generic.
hiring former concord devs and letting them promote that fact wasn't great in hindsight