Darrius Cole

Actually they are not at the mercy of Microsoft. If it plays out in the way that it now (May 24, 2013) looks like it will, I would not be surprised if Gamestop starts to subsidize the PS4. They may throw a game in with a purchase or something like that. It will be in their interest to make sure that as few as possible Xbox 1's are actually in the market. Every customers that buys an XBone is a customer lost to Gamestop forever. Microsoft is essentially asking them to cut their own th...

The only uncertainty Microsoft has is that they are uncertain what is the best way to hide the long enough for the Xbox Live regulars to jump-in and get trapped. This is not hard to understand.

The only reason to require a system to be online is so that they can see what is being done with that system.

The only reason to keep people from buying used games from Gamestop or the like is so that they will have to buy games from you.

The only rea...

You were not too wrong. Just because Microsoft is using the retailers, it doesn't mean that they still won't offer their own online trading system. After all, they are forcing the retailers mentioned here to use Microsoft's proprietary system. And just because Microsoft starts off allowing trade-ins now, that doesn't mean that they will continue to allow them in the future. They could offer trade-ins until everybody gets used to coming to them for games. Then they could ju...

I don't think Sony can do this. This plan sacrifices all the markets where the internet is not strong. The Playstation is big in mostly all of these places. I don't believe that Sony is going to sacrifice those markets. The Xbox is small in these places so it is not much for Microsoft to sacrifice. The Xbox is practically a solid block of American systems (not all the units, but the vast majority). Microsoft can afford to take this risk on their platform.

I do...

Gamestop names their price, and people pay it, or they don't. The game publishers name their price, and we either pay it, or we don't.

Now they want to name their price and name my price too. Screw that.

If this goes all the way to fruition it will kill Gamestop, and shrink the gaming market, and ironically kill more developers and publishers because there won't be the enough dollars in gaming to support the number of developers and publishers w...

I don't believe Sony will do this. I actually am not sure that they even can. The Playstation is bigger in every place outside of the US than it is in the US. Lots of those places don't have strong enough internet to support this plan. Actually lots of places in the US don't have strong enough internet to support this either.

This can only work if EVERY unit checks into the internet so the big brother can examine each box. Sony has said that the PS4 will not ...

You are right its crazy, as in you would have to be crazy to do it. When you decide about how to spend your money you have to know how it is going to work BEFORE you part with you money. These consoles require big investments on the front end.

Microsoft is counting on people like you and people who listen to you to do what you recommend. Make a big investment in their system and get trapped before they realize what is happening.

This is going to end wi...

Probably

So, Ninja Theory, now you are making a game call "Fightback". You still haven't figured it out yet, huh.

We all knew this already. You can have as many Xbox live accounts as you want. But each game you buy can only be owned by one account.

Well, I'll be damned.

So, SDF Repellent is going to buy a PS4. Microsoft, do you think you have overplayed your hand MAYBE. I mean for this dude to officially switch loyalty you had to really, REALLY take advantage of him.

The dude bought 140 360 games. At the new DRM, ban-used-games prices that's.... 59.99USD x 140 = $8398.69USD, plus another $50 x 6 = $300 for Xbox live. And that is assuming that he never had to replace his Xbox 360.
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Hey man, something had to be the last straw.

No the license can't just be "taken from you" at any time. Once you buy a game on a disc you own it. As long as you don't make a distribute copies you can do whatever you want with it.

That is what Microsoft is trying to change with the second Xbox 1.

You are indeed missing something, and not missing anything at the same time. You can't see the forest for trees.

You had it correctly in this paragraph...

"If anything MS should have just went with the all digital route as early rumors suggested. It would make more sense and even justify this absolute ridiculous locked used game dilemma. "

That is exactly what Microsoft wants to do. It's just that they know that if they ...

If GamesStop helps Microsoft sell the Xbox1, Jr, then they are the dumbest company in the world. Microsoft is trying to force you out of business, genius. Why would you help them?

I have checked but you are probably right. You have to be deeply invested in Xbox Live to be okay with Microsoft banning used games and requiring the internet for online digital restrictions.

I feel for the guys who have been primarily Xbox live gamers. Their gaming just got A LOT more expensive, or they have to build new networks all over again.

It's like Microsoft destroyed the mass relay network. Only gamers would understand that reference. Good ...

No, your friends are on Xbox 360. No one is on Xbox 1, or PS4 yet. I suspect that unless most of your friends will end up migrating over the PS4 as well. Unless they are so well off that money is no object.

I have (or rather had one until it was stolen) a PS3 and a Xbox 360. I did most of my gaming on PS3 though. (360 games were Bayonetta, Splinter Cell Conviction, Halo 4). So most of my friends are on PS3. I was going to get both consoles again this generation. But...

And that may very well kill their platform, and they know it.