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IMO, the +10 Defense Card

This blog might and most likely will make you believe what I got to say is wrong, so if you do end up feeling like I am wrong please read it to completion as I will have something to tell you by the end. That or you can just skip to the end that works too if you want an easy way out.

Now how many of you have been in a heated argument over something but had the other person or you yourself be the person to try to end it by saying "Well it's my opinion."

Those words that to be the point in time where you think the argument is over, this person or you will not concede to the idea of being wrong so they/you threw the IMO card to defend him/yourself from further arguments.

Now some of you might be thinking "Who cares let them think whatever they can they are entitled to their opinion and it's just a stupid argument anyway no need to be bent out of shape about it."

To you sir I say, well duh internet arguments are pointless but it's the topic of my blog so let's act like it does to amuse ourselves with it. The reason why this card tends to be thrown in is because there's this idea that a person's opinion can't be wrong because that is what they think and you can't tell someone they are for not thinking the same as you.

Well I consider this to be say it with me now, WRONG, an opinion can be wrong if they come from the wrong mindset.

Let me use this example: "In my opinion Hitler was a really nice guy." To begin with this is not my opinion but let's say you met someone does believe this. Now do you believe his opinion is correct?

So we are clear I'm not saying a person doesn't the right to an opinion especially when it contradicts your own but there is a limit. If we're talking which game is more fun between Gears of War or Halo than having conflicting opinions is fine but as soon we start saying something like Resident Evil 6 is better than The Last of Us than you are horribly wrong.

Again people are entitled to feel that way if they want but it doesn't mean it's not wrong because it can be especially when the situation is something that does involve some objectivity.

Let me use a real life argument I had. I remember this one time when I was arguing with a guy I knew over what constitutes as a horror game. Now I have studied the art of horror games so I was well versed in what can be defined as a horror game and what is a good and bad horror game.

I stated a horror game needs to instill a sense of dread, desperation and vulnerability, his response however was a game that needs to give a mini gun with a truck load of bullets. Now clearly you can see why this opinion is wrong because you are challenging the objectivity of what is a horror game and what isn't.

If you're wondering how the rest of the conversation went well he claimed I was wrong and would be dead if a zombie apocalypse happened because I wouldn't have any weapons. So yeah he was an idiot but you see what I'm trying to get here right that even if it's something that person or you believe in doesn't mean it's free of ridicule.

An opinion is not an impenetrable that can be placed to justify a way of thinking, a person is free to think anything they want, believe anything they want but at the same time there moments when it's just wrong not because of a contradiction between views but because of one of objectivity.

So next time you see someone throw this card or you throw it remember this, just because it's an opinion doesn't mean you can't call BS on it and to the guys who read this peace and think I'm wrong for it. Thank you for proving me right.

sweetSWAGGER4247d ago

um... I didn't know Hitler personally, so I can't factually disagree that he wasn't a nice guy. What he did as a dictator doesn't really speak to who he was behind closed-doors. (even then, I get the point).

But you're right about horror games though. Hell, your whole blog needs to be hung from the rafters of the Internet because I don't feel like explaining this to everyone who pulls this crap.

DonDon4247d ago

What he did behind closed doors?! What he did behind closed doors was plot more and more destruction and genocide for his nationalist Nazi regime. Can't believe someone would assume that a monster like that would be stable enough to wear a gentler mask in private. His actions are as result of his thinking.

On topic: I agree with some points in this blog. It has a very socratic type of deductive reasoning on why some fanatics continue to argue despite being unable to fully articulate and effectively argue for their point of view in an effective way. That's when I just walk away. Simply saying it's "your opinion" is not equal to meaning that aid opinion is immune to scrutiny. However, I still think this blog (as of this writing) needs some polishing up. But I think I kinda see what points he/she is making.

sweetSWAGGER4247d ago

I said "who he was" not "what he did". Those aren't the same. As horrible as his actions were as a dictator, that doesn't really tell me much about his personality or demeanor as a person. That's what the term "behind closed doors" usually implies.

He could've been a wise-cracking, fun-loving, devoted father. He could've believed what he was doing was the right thing for Germany. Or he could've been a sociopathic, sadistic, child molester who went to bed every night masturbating at the thought of killing Jewish children for all I know. I don't have the facts to assume that he was just as much a monster of a person as his actions as a dictator.

Look, history will remember a person's actions, not them as people. For that, Hitler deserves no sympathy from anyone. But honestly, gents, you can't just assume the worst of a person's personality without facts to back it up, I don't care who it is, be it Virgin Mary or Jack the Ripper.

You know, that "monster" wanted to be an artist originally. Not a whole lot of people know that, because we need to train ourselves to dehumanize him as much as possible in the irrational fear that humanizing him will somehow make us sympathize with his actions. C'mon, we're smarter than this!

So instead, because we remember actions and not personality, Hitler's personality must reflect his actions (regardless of any facts to claim otherwise). You see that with historical figures all the time, their personality is completely reflective of their actions, sometimes to a cartoonish degree. The slightest humanization of Hitler will bet met with... well, your reply: "YOU FOOL, BE YOU MAD? HE WAS CLEARLY A MONSTER! ARGH! ACK!" (joking, joking)

Then again, perhaps that's what someone like Hitler deserves, to be forgotten as a person; To have their humanity be completely stripped and erased because they don't deserve humanity at all. Perhaps it's a sort of natural hell: as someone only truly survives death in this world if they are remembered. Therefore, we forget Hitler as a person as punishment for his actions. Wow, that really makes me think...

On topic: yeah, the Internet can be a right tit sometimes.

BillytheBarbarian4245d ago

Madden still sucks and has sucked since 2004

SilentNegotiator4245d ago

"IMO" is too often just used as a tool by people who know that their argument doesn't hold much water.

thorstein4245d ago

"IMO" is just as bad as the "Opinion Piece." It's as if the opinion piece somehow protects the author from reports for clickbait.

Today there are a few. One entitled: "PlayStation Just Screwed Up Big Time" an "opinion" piece about the prices that have shown up on the private PS4 Now Beta that are ummmm beta... Yeah, I guess someone doesn't know what that means.

This is followed by "I Want Destiny To Fail" What? And a trolling Watch Dogs review that erroneously claimed "Graphics Downgradez Durr!!!"

It is so utterly idiotic.

sweetSWAGGER4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

But you have to admit it gets a lot of attention, and that's the sad truth. It's just a means to get your obscure website/channel off the ground, honestly: be negative about everything, who cares if it's right, wrong, important, rational or even legitimate journalism. So long as it gets clicks from the masses who're easily offended and antagonized. It gets in the way of real discussion and coverage.

Tommy Tallarico said it best in this Reboot interview:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

I almost want to call him the Roger Ebert of game reviewers, because his work for "Reviews on the Run" felt like it was in service to the medium and to the customer, not to corporate or attention.

Then again, I say "almost" because I don't follow a whole lot of reviewers. The only brutally honest journalist I can think of right now is Angry Joe, but don't tell anyone I said that because people hate that man for some reason.

Regardless, "Journalism" right now just feels like hype-service and attention whoring.

mixelon4243d ago

Its weird though, if anyone writes an opinion piece, depending on how it spreads people treat it differently. If someone say, writes a perfectly legitimate piece on gender issues, certain people spread it like wildfire then you get a bunch of people saying "why are you making such a huge deal out of this, it's not important!" - that's not actually the writer's fault or responsibility.

People need to seperate the writers and the intention of the piece from what happens to it after the fact. At the end of the day pondering things and offering opinions, even challenging the status quo sometimes can be good.

I'd rather have opinionated posts than sponsored as copy hype posts.

mixelon4243d ago

Opinion pieces are important. I have no problem with people's crazy opinions being out there. That "I want destiny to fail" thing was mildly hilarious.. I don't even think it was trolling particularly though. I totally disagree with it, but you see people curmudgeonly dismissing big budget movies and sports stuff too.. It had a kernel of legitimacy as an opinion.. And opinions are good for getting discussions going.. Even if they're dumb.

Only time I don't like opinion pieces is if they report erroneously or lie. It'd be nice to think having a non-majority opinion wouldn't get you lynched by site visitors.

thorstein4243d ago

Completely agree with the lying part of opinion pieces. The authors act as if, because they are expressing an opinion, it is okay to justify falsehoods.

Had to report one the other day and the person was really angry about it. Too bad too, because part of the article was really good.

mixelon4243d ago

Walking in with IMO is one of the only ways you can engage with some people who are arguing with what they think is facts but is actually just their opinions.

If you can point out how you both have different opinions you can either defuse most debates, while looking significantly less of a dick than the people throwing contradictory "facts" at each other.

If they have wrong facts, yes correcting them makes sense but often highlighting their stance by coming from a balanced position is sensible too.

.. Also there's no consensus on what a horror game means, I can think of a bunch of different variations which fit under that umbrella. ;)

ZombieGamerMan4241d ago

I've studied the horror game genre and I can say there is a clear line of what makes a horror game and what doesn't. Horror games may come in varies flavors but as soon as a person tells me their definition of a horror game is big guns with tons of bullets killing everything that moves than that is not a horror game by definition.

mixelon4240d ago

Well yes, that's clearly not the definition of horror games, but you can still be empowered in horror games, have weapons etc. I've "studied" it too, as a collector and at degree level (lol that sounds stupid but it's true)

It's a very broad subject, you can have horror themes and gameplay permeating an action game. It's like movies.. Evil Dead 2 is horror (comedy) and Psycho is horror (psychological) .. RE4 is a horror/action game, you have a freaking rocket launcher in one part..

ZombieGamerMan4239d ago

@ mixelon Sigh if you know so much then why even bring up the whole horror thing? Like I stated in my blog the guy had a freaking retarded idea of what constitutes as a horror game. The example given was pretty clear he didn't know what he was talking about so why bring up the broadness of what is a horror game when the example given wasn't even one that could be argued over but one that clearly showed he didn't know what he was talking about.

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