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WiiU to be dead by 2016 and here's why.

So if you are a nintendo fan or a gamer you'll know Nintendo's WiiU has not been a big success, under performing in projected sales and game DLC being cancelled for the platform. Now while yes it has recently had some good games released (and by some I mean like 2 games) that sadly is not really enough and the sad truth is the way things are going Nintendo might kill of the WiiU before 2016.

The reason for that is because once again Nintendo's hardware is behind the curve compared to its competition the PS4 & X1 and this will cause publishers to not bother making WiiU versions as soon as they all switch to next gen only.

It already started, look at Rocksteady's new Batman game Arkham Knight it was announced as a next gen only game and its listed for PS4, X1 and PC but no WiiU version even though City & Origins were both released on the WiiU.

Now this is going to be a trend for the WiiU because publishers are going to want to start publishing games for the new systems and when they all go full next gen the WiiU third party support will be dead.

Right now PS3 & 360 are what's keeping third party support alive on that system and even then its not a lot since WiiU isn't getting Dark Souls 2, South Park or Lords of Shadows 2 the last old gen only titles.

When WiiU loses its third party support the system will die because it will literally become a barren wasteland devoid of games and no platform can survive without no matter how good the first party line up is.

Now you might wonder why third party support will die, well like I said the hardware is way behind compared to PS4 & X1 and that will mean publishers would need to spend even more money to make pretty much a worse version of the game which they won't do.

At this point you might want to add the Wii and how it was worse than PS3 & 360 yet still got plenty of third party support even when they looked worse and you are correct but here's the thing. The Wii sold like crazy because of its gimmick and the chances of earning a profit on the system was high, WiiU on the other hand has been outsold by the PS4 even with a year head start.

The incentive for publishers to bother making WiiU versions is not there and if they don't support the system it will have a horrible gaming library and people won't buy it.

It is unlikely the system will reach the year 2016 as things are going to get worse by next year when publishers stop doing cross gen games and the sad thing is Nintendo has no way out of this situation but to leave the console market and focus on the handheld market instead.

Stringerbell4435d ago

I'm sorry I have to disagree on your last point. Nintendo financially isn't strapped. They still have that Wii money, boatloads actually. They aren't in the position that Sega was in where the needed the Dreamcast to be a grand slam. The WiiU can fail and they can still pull through and develop a new system. You allude to it when you say the "focus on the handheld market instead" another facet where Nintendo reaps huge profits from.

caseh4432d ago

^ What this guy said.

Pachter (as much as people hate him) raised a valid point a while back in that Nintendo have that much cash they could effectively afford to bleed money for several years and still not be in financial trouble.

Of course, that isn't what they are aiming for but the fact still stands.

BluKnight014416d ago

I'm with you here Pho. Nintendo may not have the financial resources of Sony or Microsoft, but they can afford to take the hit.

I would also like to point out that losing 3rd Party developers for the WiiU isn't necessarily going to kill the system. Nintendo has always made the bulk of their money from 1st Party titles, and third party support has been bleeding slowly away since the N64. Nintendo's business model doesn't rely on 3rd Party developers the way Xbox and Playstation's do, meaning that Nintendo will be able to weather a complete drop off in external developers much better than most people think. At the end of the day, unlike Xbox and Playstation, no one buys a Nintendo console for their CoD ports, they buy one for Mario, Zelda and Samus.

Don't get me wrong, I think there are arguments to be made about why Nintendo MIGHT kill the WiiU before 2016, but this is not one of them.

Spikeantestor4434d ago

Hmmm, I don't know. See, the thing is, they really haven't had 3rd party support for true AAA games on any system since the GameCube.

So first I'd disagree with saying that the 3rd party scene had much impact on the Wii. In fact, developers said time and time again that nobody could move 3rd party software on the thing. Of course there were a handful of acceptions but so many other poor-selling games proved to be the rule.

The second thing I'd mention is that Nintendo can sell a system on its games alone. The best example of this is the 3DS. Lately, its become fashionable to call it one of the best game systems ever made and if you look at its software it's building that reputation on its almost only 1st and 2nd party. More of the same even; Pokemon X &Y, Mario 3D Land, Zelda: LBW, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, Fire Emblem: Awakening, and a bunch of others. All are IPs we've had for years.

Further, it may be enticing to think that Wii games like Mario Galaxy wouldn't have sold as well if it weren't for Wii Sports having put so many systems in people's homes, I'd say the 3DS helps disprove this as acciomatic as well. It had a slow start and only gained steam as these games, again these remakes and sequals of tried and true IPs, started coming.

So Nintendo CAN sell a system, even in this day and age, without lots of 3rd party support. So why hasn't it happened on the Wii U?

I think it's more simple than people usually consider it. The truth is that it doesn't matter how good a Nintendo game is. Sure it helps and maybe In the long run it matters but not in the short term. think of it this way, when Nintendo has released the games that got people the most excited it was because it was something that, I the previews, demos, and trailers, looked really cool and new.

Mario 64 wasn't just great it was also really cool-looking. New Super Mario Bros. U was good but didn't look cool or new. It looked like a game we played either on the NES or DS or Wii.

Mario Galaxy looked awesome. It may have been the same old plumber but running around upside down on small planets looked really cool and new. Super Mario 3D World showed Mario in a cat suit. It didn't look new or cool at all, even if playing it revealed it was.

We even see the same rule proving my point on the 3DS. Pokemon is a big seller as a franchise but there was more excitement going into X & Y than there has been for the last few generations. Why? Because in being 3D it looked really cool and new. It was a great game but it got people excited for it. Buy the system excited.

So I think Nintendo will be ok. They won't sell as many systems as they did off wii sports but if they can get even an existing IP to wow people (maybe the long requested Pokemon MMO) than they will sell well. And even if they simply make a stable of same looking but ultimately awesome games (Mario 3D world, Mario Kart, etc.) they can do well enough I believe.

ZombieGamerMan4434d ago

Well the 3DS is different, its only competition is the PSVita which has terrible support, but also you proved my point in why they'll have to leave the console market.

It's because they support the 3DS more than the WiiU. Also the Wii still had a decent amount of third party support because of how well it sold. Sure the bigger games like Bioshock and Assassin's Creed didn't see a Wii release but even still publishers were supporting it in hopes of getting the casual market cash something WiiU lacks.

Spikeantestor4434d ago

I'm not really sure competition is the reason, or even a big reason, the 3DS is doing well. Or for that matter why any console does well. I think we typically see most systems selling when they have games people want to play. The 3DS has done better since the Vita has come out actually. And I would say its because people want to play what's on it now.

I wouldn't say they are supporting it more, Nintendo has many games in development for both, many announced, many unannounced I'm sure. I don't think it has to do with the percentage of support really. Nintendo just hasn't given people anything on the Wii U to be excited about.

Which they could. It isn't easy. It isn't a simple choice to just decide to make cooler games. Its hard work and kinda just depends on what your teams come up with. But it could happen is my only point. If they show 1st and 2nd party games people can get excited about, not just the game titles themselves, but games that LOOK exciting, than they can turn this around.

To put it pointedly, i still think the same way I had before you commented again lol.

ZombieGamerMan4434d ago

@Spikeantestor

Like I said it takes third party support to keep a platform a float and WiiU is gonna lose it, yeah nintendo will have its games but that won't be enough, it wasn't for the GC, wasn't for the N64 and it won't be for WiiU.

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Geekman4432d ago

No. Not it's already lost most of its 3rd party support and it's still alive. Nintendo themselves can keep it alive. They have the money to. I expect it to last until at least 2018.

Brettman20084432d ago (Edited 4432d ago )

I think the days of a very successful console having mainly first party games are over. How many gamers are going to give up the likes of big third party games like Battlefield, Destiny, Evolve etc? I see the WiiU being more of a niche product that will limp along until it is discontinued in 2017.

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The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

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Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

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