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So This is Supposed to Get Me to Like Nintendo Again?

Like many people going into E3 this year, I was excited to see what Nintendo's new console would bring to the table. Would it be an iteration of the Wii with better graphics? Would it be a traditional controller and console? Would it be the next revolution in gaming? I was both excited and freaked out. At the end, I was just confused.

First off, let me tell you that I am not a huge fan of Nintendo. They have great franchises but most do little for me. The last Nintendo console I owned was an N64, but it was quickly usurped by my Playstation and Xbox consoles, but I am waiting for them to win me over again.

Next, for all you Nintendo funboys (sorry fanboys), we all know that you will love the Wii U and buy the Wii U and talk long, loud, and hard about the Wii U. But what about everyone else?

Right now there is just too much that is not known that will be critical for me in my decision:
Graphics: will it be better than my PS3/360? Worse? The same?
Price: if it's not close to the PS3/360 why would I get one?
Controller: Can I use two, three, four, only one? How much are the controllers (if it's over $100 we have a problem).
Storage: how much flash memory will I have?
Online: will Nintendo improve their online functionalities?
Games: will they have real 3rd Party support or just slightly modified ports of PS3/360 games. Will they have 1st Party titles that are little more "mature"?

All these questions have yet to be answered and are all critical to most gamers.

In my opinion, Nintendo was not really ready for an E3 unveiling of the Wii U. They didn't give enough info and didn't have much to show as to capabilities outside tech demos. And while they showed that they have some 3rd party support, it was all assurances that they would be working on games (how much trust do you have in game developers telling you the truth?)

The thing that confuses me the most is what is Nintendo trying to do with Wii U? They had great success with the Wii in marketing to kids, non-gaming adults, and those who jump on fads. These market groups do not care about hardcore games, graphics, online capabilities, etc. They care about ease of gameplay and cost. Is Nintendo abandoning them? Do you want your 6 year old moving the Wii U controller all over the place if it costs $100+ to replace? Are they serious about going after the mature/hardcore demographic and wowing them with specs, graphics, mature games, and online versatility? I couldn't tell from their presentation.

Right now I am not making any plans to get a Wii U. Maybe once more of my above questions are answered I will change my mind, but right now this is looking like another GameCube debacle for Nintendo. Who knows, I thought the Wii would tank and was dead wrong, so I may be mistaken again.

What do you think?

xX-StolenSoul-Xx5429d ago (Edited 5429d ago )

I agree, the WiiU did not really excite me in anyway. The graphics look good from what i seen so far but the controller and the games they showed arnt really for me. Not really a fan of Zelda.
Last nintendo i owned was a Snes lmao but i really did enjoy the N64 with my friends to play goldeneye but i never saw nintendo as a good console most of their games seemed childish to me. Well their exclusives.

Besides im sure the Next Xbox and Playstation will come out a year after and i sure can't wait.

Agent-865429d ago (Edited 5429d ago )

I'm with you and never been a huge Nintendo fan. I respect and admire them, but, as far as gaming goes, they don't really do anything for me (Mario, Zelda and their other IP's just never appealed to me). I go one generation farther than you, though, and chose the Genesis over the SNES. I wanted more mature games like Road Rash, Desert Strike, and EA Sports games (damn EA, you really should bring back Road Rash). SNES seemed mostly geared towards kids and sidescrolling, platform games (which just isn't my thing).

And each generation onward, I chose a different system other than Nintendo: PlayStation over the N64 and PS2 over the GameCube. Now, I'm mostly a PC gamer (about 10 years now), but have a PS3 as console "sidekick". I have it so I can play the console only games like Red Dead Redempton plus Sony has a pretty great lineup of exclusives (love Uncharted, inFamous, and want that new Twisted Metal game....loved the first two). I really don't see switching over to Nintendo now. You list a lot of revelant reasons to be concerned over their new console.

I'd add the lack of HDD as another possible big concern (doubt the single digit flash storage will be enough; what is it only 8gbs or something?). Nowadays, a large HDD is needed for all the downloadable games and DLC. My guess is that this new console will be this generation's Dreamcast: barely better than current generation and sure to be surpassed when Sony and MS release their new machines. I also think it's just bad timing all around. The economy still sucks and the alternatives (PS3 and 360) will be much cheaper and have better 3rd party support (the key to any successful console).

majiebeast5428d ago

Third party support till the ps4 and 720 launch.

coryok5428d ago

i was interested because i thought they might have a good showing of games, but they didnt really show any.

sure they had some ps3 footage of games that are planned to be multiplatform, but i dont care about multiplatform games, i already have a console that i like that has a full list of friends that i enjoy talking to and playing games with.

they were a big disappointment to me, im all about the games and they didnt even offer me any that i dont already own.

they spent waaay too much time on their hardware (and btw, they didnt even tell us any specifics about their hardware) and not enough time on software. i would have lied to hear at least 10 exclusives being announced for it, or sell me the multiplatform games for 40$ instead of 60$

scotchmouth5428d ago

The price point of the controller and it's durability have me wondering. How rugged is it going to be? My controllers (xbox,ps) get a little wear and tear.

How does it feel? I mean let's be honest. That's a clunky looking thing. How will my wrists feel after a couple of hours into it?

Also one of those tablet controllers per system won't cut it. It needs to support more then one.

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Xbox Game Pass Ultimate Price Update

Starting today, Game Pass Ultimate drops from $29.99 to $22.99 a month. PC Game Pass will also drop from $16.49 to $13.99 a month. Prices may vary by region.

Beginning this year, future Call of Duty titles won’t join Game Pass Ultimate or PC Game Pass at launch. New Call of Duty games will be added to Game Pass Ultimate and PC Game Pass during the following holiday season (about a year later), while existing Call of Duty titles already in the library will continue to be available.

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Neonridr7h ago

can't wait to hear how this is spun negatively.

darthv724h ago

Its nice there is some kind of drop... but is that all they really value CoD to be, a lousy $7 a month?

I was hoping it would drop by $10.

MisterBoots1h ago

That $7 equates to $84 per year - which is more than COD new ($69.99 + tax).

So - you can get the exact same thing - and save a few bucks - or you can skip COD and pocket the savings or use toward another game - or games if on sale.

That’s how I’m taking it - and is enough for me to sign back up after canceling the day it went to $29.99.

fr0sty51m ago

It's unlikely that COD is going to be the only title they stop offering day one, but we'll see how they play their hand.

1Victor4h ago

Can’t wait to hear how this will be spun extremely positive. 🤣
I wonder why knowing Microsoft thick head something must has happened in the background in the levels of Xbox one and Kinect 🤷🏿

fr0sty48m ago

Any price cut is a good thing in this day and age, but it also reveals a flaw in GamePass' design that we've all been calling out for years... it's unsustainable, especially with day and date releases on new games. COD won't be the only game they exclude, they're setting a precedent with it that they'll likely expand upon in the future.

At least they're being realistic about it now. I bet in the future we're going to start seeing them try to subsidize the high price of new consoles by making you buy 2-3 years of gamepass with it to get the console cheaper. I'm still not sure that'll be enough to save either the hardware or gamepass, but we'll see.

LucasRuinedChildhood2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Well, they're removing their biggest game from being Day 1 on the service so GamePass users can buy it instead. That's the intention.

They increased the price to $30, then removed COD and dropped it to still be above the old price.

It's an understandable compromise but the consumer Ultimately is getting less.

Think the calculation is that *most* COD users don't play that many games and aren't interested in GamePass. The GamePass users who do like COD would just buy it anyway. MS reportedly lost out a lot of money last year putting COD on GamePass.

Bathyj2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Well Call of duty could just be the beginning. What other games can they trim from the service to get the price down? How long before it's just the Xbox core first party studio games and not the one to everquired?

Create an interesting scenario with Call of duty as well. Will people wait a year to play it? Does that split the fan base? Will it hurt to Call of duty more than a benefits Game pass? These are all legitimate questions which we will find the answers to in the coming years

And I don't consider my post negative spin just realistic observation. At the very least this backtracking can be seen as an admittance that the previous strategy of gamepass was not sustainable as most of us said.

darthv721h ago

I'd get rid of the EA and Ubisoft+ too. That should bring the price down more. The only game from either of those parts of the service i played was jedi Fallen order / survivor. both of which i also bought on disc so it was more of a convenience i didnt have to put the disc in to play when i was playing them via remote play. And really that is why i still use GPU and PS+. its the convenience of having the games ready to play from a remote location. I havent picked up my consoles controllers in at least a few years. I guess that makes me a bad gamer, but so what. i'm still playing the games, just not physically on the machines themselves. GCloud and Portal are my go to now.

GhostScholar2h ago

They’ll say no one is buying game pass so they had to drop the price , even though it’s been extremely profitable.

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KicksnSnares6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

New Xbox Boss the 🐐?

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Vits6h ago

In my region, it’s still more expensive than it was before the last price hike, but it’s a far more viable price point.

Losing Call of Duty from the service, honestly, has zero effect on me, and given they chose to make it so, it’s probably not the big seller they originally thought. Overall, it’s really good news, but I still think they have work to do on the tier structure, having Premium and PC at the same price point with different features feels odd.

Lightning776h ago

Yep take COD out. Them waiting a year is interesting but it make sense. They don't want certain ppl waiting 4 to 6 months they want fomo and maximum sales. Wait a year while the new one releases.

Ok so far so good.

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