Read This:
http://www.n4g.com/dev/News-187992.aspx
Okay, now read the comments. I can wait, this is the written word, not the spoken.
I can fully understand why PS3 fans are upset. FULLY. And I'm not quite certain why Valve decided to leave PS3 players in the dust on this one.
Then we have Left 4 Dead. A Valve game that has the potential to be a new great IP for Valve. They aren't releasing it on the PS3 either. Or at least, it hasn't officially been announced yet.
Quite frankly, I don't know a whole lot about game development. I've made games using GameMaker, but that's not even close to being the same as developing for a PS3 or Xbox 360. I don't know if it's just more difficult to make games for the PS3, or if Valve doesn't want to support it for one reason or another. But I do know that some of you console specific fans can be mighty stupid.
I've gone on other blog posts saying that I don't bias a console. But do you want the truth? I bias the 360 and Wii because I own both, and it peeves me when I hear a PS3 owner tell me both consoles are crap. I know it's just because I don't own a PS3 (yet), and when I finally save up enough to buy one, I'll be happy and content. But I don't bias the 360 and Wii enough to be a fanboy. So I hope you'll excuse me for not knowing what happens in the PS3 section of this site, because I don't go there.
As I said, I don't know what happens in the PS3 comments section. I've never been to a PS3 only article and made a comment. And I've also never made fat jokes about a developer just because I don't get a game for the 360. I mean... seriously? That's the best argument you can make? A person that makes such a stupid remark must be feeling sorry for themselves. Yeah, Gabe Newall is big. But is that a reason why you wouldn't buy his games? Is that the main deciding factor for whether a video game is worth it? No, it's not. There, I answered the question so that all of you out there making fat jokes to lower your insecurity levels won't have to strain you brains.
Like I said, I like the PS3. But the level of stupidity that some people show simply boggles the mind. And really, if you don't care, why are you calling him fat? I know that some of you bought The Orange Box for the PS3, and wish Valve would support it. But if they're not going to, and you feel like they basically stuck up a middle finger in your direction, email Valve, don't leave comments on a message board that they don't even read. They probably won't read your email either, but if that gets you down, start a petition. But making fat jokes and calling the 360 stupid won't help your cause.
And be sure not to call Valve a stupid M$ humping company in your email. You may come off sounding condescending.
P.S. Xbox 360 fanboys need to shut up too. You need to stop posting in PS3 review and news articles. Just like like PS3 fanboys need to stop posting in Xbox 360 review and news articles. I know this it's pointless to say this, because it goes against the nature of fanboys to keep to themselves, but seriously... shut up.
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Personally, I think Gabe has come off sounding just as immature in his interviews as the "fanboys" you are denouncing. I'm an owner of the PS3 version of The Orange Box and I have only bothered to play portal since the TF and main games are so buggy. Gabe is Fat, His company hates the PS3 and they have taken royalties from hundreds of thousands of Playstation fans for the Orange Box and have done NOTHING to fix the ridiculously broken gaming experience that they and EA orchestrated. Ps3 owners feel ripped off by Valve (and EA) and its my opinion that your writing piece lecturing rabid fanboys comes off as uneducated since you can not write from an informed, The Orange Box (ps3) owning perspective.
Yeah... but is calling him fat really the way to go? Anyone who calls him fat because they feel spited comes off as uneducated. 6th graders call people fat.
And you're right, I'm not an Orange Box PS3 owner. But all I was saying is that you guys could try doing something worthwhile about it instead of calling Gabe fat and running off.
And if Valve hates PS3, then so what? Just move along. You bought the game, maybe you learned a lesson? I don't know, I haven't been there. I do think he needs to explain himself, but what are you gonna do if he doesn't? There's no need for the high levels of immaturity that some of you are showing.
Valve is not a PS3 developer. EA Got the Orange Box on the PS3.
People who have the Orange Box for the PS3 should be happy it's on the console in the first place. If it wasn't for EA, it wouldn't even be near the PS3.
Valve is NOT a developer that makes games for both consoles. Valve creates games for the PC and the 360. That's it. If you're going to point any fingers about the PS3 version, point them to EA. Like already said, without EA, the PS3 version wouldn't even exist.
It gets a little old seeing people complain about Valve. I'm very enthusiastic about their company, and I can already tell you, there is nothing for you to complain about them.
360 TF2 update going to cost money? That's Microsoft's fault for forcing Valve to make you pay. Valve in spite of this will make the Update gigantic, and will be fairly cheap
Anyone who got the PS3 Orange Box and wasn't aware of the consequences, I feel bad for them. But they need to research a little and see why the PS3 version has problems. Think of the PS3 Orange Box as a faulty port by a different company, than a full game by the original company. Valve is a small company, I think around 150 people. They're working on a lot of projects, are you also expecting them to work on PS3 versions of their games as well?
Valve is independent and small for how much they're doing. Valve has talked about branching out, but they're going to have to get bigger first.
That was probably a lengthy read, but to recap on what I just said:
PS3 Version should not have any fingers pointed at Valve. Point them at EA, because without EA, Orange Box would only be on the 360/PC. If you got the PS3 Orange Box, and weren't aware of what would happen, I feel bad for you. But you can't be pointing fingers at Valve.
360 TF2 updates cost money because Microsoft forced Valve.
If you have the 360 TF2 and are complaining about updates and prices, blame Microsoft. Valve is trying to get around this as much as possible.
Valve is a fairly small company. They are PC/360 developers. Keep this in mind until they say otherwise.
If you want the best results from Valve, get the PC versions of their games. The updates come quick, and they have great support.
I can not speak for others on this site but I used to be a HUGE valve fan. I have images from the original half-life burned into my mind and I probably passed the game more than 5 times. However, what Valve did with it's Orange Box IP is blasphemy. They took an award-winning homegrown series, sold it out to the largest developer in the industry with no strings or conditions attached and sat by and watched as "said developer" destroyed their Playstation-owning fanbase. Have I done my best to inform people about why PS3's Orange Box isn't worth buying? Yes. Did I sign that stupid "Valve give us a patch" petition? Yes. Will I buy another Valve product for Playstation 3? Probably not. Will I ever buy another Valve PC product? I guess it all depends if Gabe loses some weight. ^_^
But in all seriousness, You wrote a good article but people are going to feel the way they want and some people just handle "getting the shaft" a little bit more maturely than others. Doesn't go to say the immature responses aren't justified, just maybe a little excessive. Have a good night. See you on the "Left 4 Dead Announced for Playstation 3; Ported by EA" thread....
I think they should either take responsibility for all iterations of their product or not allow it to be released in that form. I play Orange Box on my PS3 and I don't have a major problem with it. But for a developer to respond so immaturely to questions involving avid supporters of his product, he deserves every last crack he gets. We are not talking to him face-to-face therefore it's all in good fun to rib someone who in all honesty, has it coming. If he didn't go out of his way to make himself sound like a jerk to me (a PS3 owner), I would not be as inclined to match his insensitivity.
Also, "Poor Gabe" is a load of crap. I'm sure he made out like a bandit with the PS3 Orange Box alone. If he declines his right to take responsibility, he should not get a cent off of that game. EA should pocket the whole thing. They want my money, but they don't want to work for it.. Is that something that can really be defended? REALLY?