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Reality Check: Why the Wii Motion Plus shouldn't - but will - win the "Motion Wars"

So, now that the introduction to E3 2009 is over, all three of the big players are now on the field with their own motion-based gaming technology. Each of them has a slightly different flavor - Nintendo improves on what it already has, Microsoft takes it to a potentially whole new level, and Sony falls comfortably in between. Obviously there's been a decent amount of discussion regarding which of these new technologies is "best", but I think there's something most people aren't considering.

Why the Wii Motion Plus shouldn't win the Motion Wars

The answer to this one is pretty simple. Nintendo's Wii Motion Plus technology appears to be inferior to what both Sony and Microsoft are offering. It definitely improves upon what the Wii initially gave us, but, from their initial demos and post-demo analysis, both Sony and Microsoft appear to have the edge here.

In a perfect world, the "best" technology would win, and help give gaming that extra nudge forward. Unfortunately, the rules of economics deem this highly unlikely to happen. Why? Well...

Why the Wii Motion Plus will win the Motion Wars

The simple answer is, well, simplicity. Take a moment in stick yourself in the shoes of a gaming company. Are you more likely to make a game that utilizies:

  1. Unproven technology with a subtantally smaller userbase, at least at first.
  2. A small add-on to proven technology that you can bundle with your game for those who may not already have one.

This isn't, by any stretch of the imagination, a new question for the gaming world. Post-launch console add-ons are almost always doomed to failure. Why? Because the potential number of customers is, by definition, significantly smaller than the number of people who own the console itself. Why, as a developer, would you make a game that relies on Project Natal technology, when you could simply make a standard game, for cheaper, and have a much larger potential userbase?

Nintendo has the clear advantage here. Their accessory is relatively cheap, and can easily be included with your game for a small price bump. Even better, it will be bundled with other popular games, thus guaranteeing that even more people are likely to have one.

What we are most likely to see on the Sony and Microsoft side are games that have an OPTION to use motion-control, but can also be played with your standard controller, which means the potential for the technology - especially in the case of the Natal - will still be very limited. Unfortunately, without games exclusive to the motion-control accessory, there is that much less of a reason to justify the purchase. Some people will take the plunge, sure. But the casual market Sony and Microsoft are aiming for? That becomes much less likely. It's a classic "chicken vs. egg" problem - most people are unlikely to buy the accessory unless there are exclusive games that take full advantage of it, and at the same time, companies are unlikely to make games that rely exclusively on the technology, unless there is already a subtantial guaranteed user-base.

For this reason, I think it's clear the Wii Motion Plus will dominate over its new technologically superior competitors. Sony's hybrid technology is likely to land somewhere in the middle, since it's more likely to be incorporated into the type of games that could also use the standard controller. As for Natal? Well, it easily has the loftiest potential, which also gives it the greatest heights to fall from.

Assuming the motion trend continues, I think all of the players in the next round of the console wars will have much more even footing, and when that happens, we might see some true magic happen from the more talented developers. Admittedly, I do hope that companies prove me - and history - wrong, and that we will see both the Natal and Sony Motion reach their full potential during this generation, delivering some incredible, never-before-seen experiences.

I just don't think it's an economic reality in this particular console war.

Brasi826168d ago

You might want to look into the facts a little more. Sony's Motion Control is 1:1 ratio, which is exactly what the Wii Motion Plus is. How can you say Sony's is better? Also Microsoft's "Natal" is basically a fine tuned Eye Toy, however if you watched Sony's conference they clearly stated that the Eye Toy's downfall was the lack of buttons.

Xander-RKoS6168d ago

Yeah...the only reason why Sony's appeared "better" was because they used two plus the eyetoy. My friend and I were discussing after watching the E3 demo that it would be a marketing nightmare if they tried to package two plus a camera all together.

Also, they showed us a glimpse of body tracking FPS gameplay (something already done with just a motion controller) but they only showed us how to walk around a room, but not, say, from one room to another or across a huge battlefield. I think that the end result of Sony's "wand" is something looking eerily similar to the wii remote and nunchuck.

SpoonyRedMage6168d ago

I'm with you guys. The Bow demonstration was exactly the same as the Wiisports Resort Archery demo, done the exact same way and described in the same terms.

The sword and shield demo of Sony's was the one that apparently interested people but it's more or less exactly what High Voltage are trying to do with Gladiator AD.

More importantly we didn't it in a proper game. It was run in a empty, safe environment with lower quality models but in a full game it might not run as good.

ZuperAmazingCooKie6167d ago

Or because it was out earlier?

Anyway I don't care if it was out of the gates first with inferior hardware as backup, or if it's comming out with a very advanced system but relatively useless with most games, I care if it can do a lot of new things while at the same time be used with old games and/or genres.

bigjclassic6167d ago

But you also forgot the fact that Motion+ hits next month. Gamers will already be accustomed to Tiger, Virtua Tennis and Wii Sports Resort. At first I can only assume that "hardcore loyalist" of 360/PS3 will adopt the new add-on so fast.

As a PS3/Wii owner, I'm not really interested in PS3 having Motion+. I want a true next-gen experience like MGS4 and KZ2. Only Heavy Rain, FFXIII and GT5 give me that type of feel on the HD consoles.

peeps6166d ago

PS3/360 fans bought their consoles because they wernt interested in motion controls, else they would have bought a wii...

If you own a wii you will buy motion plus because it is esentially doing what the wii should have done in the first place. It's also not a whole new control scheme, just an advancement over the current one.

Ppl are going on about how natal and sony's motion controls look really cool, but is it only me that can't actually see them taking off?

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Itveds9h ago

re-evaluating exclusivity 💀

PS players will need to go back to pretending to dislike Xbox games

pwnmaster30009h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Or meaning since it’s doing so good they might just do everything day 1.

They didnt say re-evaluating their multiplatform approach.
🤣🤣🤣 Xbox is so dead. I know you scared🤣🫵ӿ 97;

8h ago
Eonjay5h ago

Even when the topic is strictly Xbox he can't stop talking about PlayStation. Xbox has basically become the hate of PlayStation... and not much else.

pwnmaster30008h ago

Hurt over video games 🤣🤣

Lmao we all grew and got jobs but apparently you stayed home broke 🤣🤣.
Man I love loyal dogs like you. MS kicked Spit and slapped you around but you still come back on all 4s.

Good little boy 🤣🤣

8h ago
GhostScholar7h ago

My only question is what games are PlayStation gamers gonna play now? They don’t really come out with new games anymore. I’m looking forward to wolverine, but after that then what?

-Foxtrot8h ago

Lmao

There’s no way after everything it’s going back, the damage is done

What you are seeing now is the new management telling what the core fanbase (aka…you) want to hear so they are pumped full of hope and are more likely to invest in the next Xbox console

When Phil took over after the awful Xbox One reveal he did the same thing, he told people what they wanted to hear for damage control.

It’s crazy people are getting suckered into this again.

GhostScholar6h ago

I mean I always buy both systems, so none of this affects me.

darthv7235m ago

FWIW..... wasn't the new management speaking to the other staff.... not so much us (regular folk)?

CrashMania8h ago

And you'll now go back to again thinking exclusives suddenly matter, that multiplatform is no longer the future, or that revenue from multiplatforms doesn't matter, like all you flop flopping xbox grifters lol.

The whole post just sounds like the previous phil corpo slop talk to me, whole thing reads like a nothing burger lol.

Jin_Sakai6h ago

“re-evaluating exclusivity”

She also said this.

“The model that got us here won’t be the one that takes us forward.”

Profchaos4h ago

I don't know if they have a model anymore it's flipped so many times since the xbox one reveal

TriniOutsider6h ago

It must be miserable being someone like you.

Aloymetal6h ago

There's a bunch just like him but that's what happens when some rely on dreams, hope and wishful thinking. lol

isarai_lee6h ago

"pretending"? Bro gears hasnt broke 1mil on ps5, and starfield hasn't passed 200k, Hellblade 2 was even stated to be a financial disappointment in sales on its own console, let alone ps5. Im not saying people don't like them, but they certainly aren't setting the community on fire, Forza may be different tho

Neonridr5h ago

Forza broke 5 million on PlayStation. So yes. And there's a new one coming soon.

Aloymetal6h ago

Xbawx is ''re-evaluating exclusivity''... Translation: After throwing all sort of crap to the wall to see if something sticks but clearly nothing worked, we, including our lord ''in charge'' Phil came to the conclusion that exclusives indeed do matter so please forget if we ever said otherwise.
Yup, I feel it in my gut, next gen belongs to xbox, PS6 is cooked...

6h ago
1Victor4h ago

Someone can’t sleep after those 5 million forza games PURCHASED by PlayStation owners🤣 🧌 💥

4h ago
Extermin8or3_2h ago

Well with the decreased price of gamespass even with cod off it there is no way it is profitable given the cost of making their 1st party games (not if you actually include that cost in gamespass costs which they typically dont but should) they will just make a loss without the sales on

Xx_Pistol_xX1h ago

They don't hate the games. They hate the box.

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Outside_ofthe_Box8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster30008h ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7218m ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

Itveds8h ago

Gonna be a funny world where Xbox games are exclusive and Sony games are not lol

Outside_ofthe_Box6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Funny world where Sony is pro consumer and Xbox is not? At least according to what you loyalists have been saying all this time 🤭

VenomUK6h ago

@itveds For how many years have you been doing this sad stuff? For how many years have you been creating fake accounts to troll? For how many years have you always been cl vnn

fr0sty4h ago

Pathetic incels with nothing better to do than argue over a box... Because they don't have any good games to play on theirs, obviously. If your precious box is so special, why don't you shut the fuck up and go play it?

CrashMania8h ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

Neonridr5h ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box2h ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Pyrofire953h ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7232m ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

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maximusprime_8h ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

7h ago
BeHunted6h ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

6h ago
CrashMania3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

shadowT8h ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers7h ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

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92nar1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Is it April fools day again?

The game is dead.

EDIT: the numbers are fudged. “digital sales on Nintendo and Xbox weren’t included in the data”

italiangamer1d 11h ago

🖕🖕🖕 29313;🤡🤡

92nar1d 8h ago

How’s concord 2, sorry I mean marathon doing? 🤣🤣

Neonridr14h ago

well it's not on Switch / Switch 2.. so their number would be zero.

The game had a decent launch however the userbase numbers are dwindling on Steam.

1Victor14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

“ Is it April fools day again?

The game is dead.

EDIT: the numbers are fudged. “digital sales on Nintendo and Xbox weren’t included in the data”

Does it hurt you to hear a SONY game was BEST selling ?
You gotta let go of those OBCURED feelings 🤷🏿

Neonridr14h ago

I mean the only reason MLB was the best selling title was because it was multi-platform. Likewise with Marathon. Will ring true for MS games. Only Nintendo titles are truly flexing their muscles when they chart as they are only to be found there.

S2Killinit4h ago

So that means we are going to act like it wasn’t best selling?

ChunkyMonk3h ago

It's kinda funny how this Obscure guy lives rent-free in your head. lol

Does Phil also live there?

1Victor1h ago

It's kinda funny how this Obscure guy lives rent-free in your head. lol

Does Phil also live there?
I’m sorry did you wrote something smart ?
Or are you trying to to be funny because you failed at both
Now kid run to mommy legs the grown ups are talking.
Don’t bother writing anything I will not respond to a bratty child like you

Outside_ofthe_Box13h ago

Can't wait to see how this is spun negatively. 😜

-Foxtrot8h ago

Yeah sure, yet the player count is no where near what they want for a AAA game with so much money behind it

Why people are trying to spin this game like it’s done overly amazing is baffling to me.

It won’t even be a blip on peoples radars by the end of the year .

S2Killinit4h ago

I really doubt that. I see it getting more and more traction.

ChunkyMonk3h ago

You must me typically wrong cuz those Steam chart numbers (AKA where the game sold the MOST) is less than what Hunt has, and Hunt didn't cost $500 million to make lol

Soy5h ago

So........doing better than most expected, but not enough to make back what it cost.

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