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PS4 doomed to have only few games? (1 year on)

[Update: This post had a mistake which said PS4 had about 40 disk based games after 1 year, but it had 77. It also said PS2 had about 75 disk based games but it had more than 136]

1 year ago I posted this article: http://n4g.com/user/blogpos...

I feel so far its proven to be accurate. At the time I wrote the piece, the original PlayStation had a library of 2,418 games and PS2 had 3,870 games. PS3 had 795 games. So far its been a year since the PS4's launch and it has 87 or so disk based games [source: listwars]. I think this source is wrong and PS4 has 77 disk based games, see below. Around one year after release, the PS2 had about 136 games after its first release in any territory (see here: List of PlayStation 2 games wikipedia article). None of these figures include digital only games/indie games.

I also stated it took $5-$10 million to develop a PS2 game versus $0.8 million-$1.7 million for the original PlayStation [source: sciencedirect] . In June 2009 Ubisoft reiterated that major titles for PS3/X360 cost $20-$30 million to make and that games for the next-generation may exceed $60 million [source:edge-online]. It has now been stated in 2014, by the video game developer Epic, that it expects next-gen dev costs to double compared to PS3 [source: gameindustry.biz]

Here is a list of disk based PS4 games as of today:

(1) Drive Club
(2) Infamous Second Son
(3) Killzone Shadow Fall
(4) Knack
(5) Omega Quintet
(6) Onechanbara Z2: Chaos
(7) LittleBigPlanet 3
(8) MLB 14: The Show
(9) Natural Doctrine
(10) Samurai Warriors 4
(11) The Last of Us
(12) Alien: Isolation
(13) Among the Sleep
(14) Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
(15) Assassin's Creed Unity
(16) Battlefield 4
(17) Bound by Flame
(18) Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
(19) Call of Duty: Ghosts
(20) Child of Light
(21) Destiny
(22) Diablo III
(23) Disney Infinity
(24) Dragon Age: Inquisition
(25) Dynasty Warriors 8
(26) EA Sports UFC
(27) Far Cry 4
(28) FIFA 14
(29) FIFA 15
(30) Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn
(31) Grand Theft Auto V
(32) Injustice: Gods Among Us
(33) Just Dance 2014
(34) Just Dance 2015
(35) Tomb Raider: Definite Edition
(36) Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham
(37) Lego The Hobbit
(38) Lego Marvel Super Heroes
(39) Lords of the Fallen
(40) Madden NFL 25
(41) Madden NFL 15
(42) Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes
(43) Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor
(44) Minecraft
(45) Mortal Kombat X
(46) Murdered: Soul Suspect
(47) NBA 2K14
(48) NBA 2K15
(49) NBA Live 14
(50) NBA Live 15
(51) NHL 15
(52) Need for Speed Rivals
(53) Outlast
(54) Payday 2
(55) Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare
(56) Pro Evolution Soccer 2015
(57) Rayman Legends
(58) Sherlock Holmes: Crimes & Punishments
(59) Skylanders: Swap Force
(60) Skylanders: Trap Team
(61) Sleeping Dogs
(62) Sniper Elite III
(63) Strike Suit Zero
(64) The Amazing Spider-Man 2
(65) The Crew
(66) The Elder Scrolls Online
(67) The Evil Within
(68) The Lego Movie Videogame
(69) The Walking Dead
(70) The Wolf Among Us
(71) THief
(72) Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark
(73) Trials Fusion
(74) Watch Dogs
(75) Wolfenstein: The New Order
(76) WWE 2K15
(77) Guilty Gear Xrd

If the graph above is going to be 2 times higher for the PS4. Then one would might say that its likely that the graph below may also follow a similar trend.

If we accept the previous premise that "video game costs doubling compared to the PS3 generation will lead to a few number of games made". Then I would say that the PS4 will have about 400-600 disk based games.

arbitor3654149d ago

If you counted digital games, the PS3 list would be alot closer to the PS2. The PS2 had alot of lower budget games that would probably be downloadable games today. And the PS2 did take advantage of alot more japanese localization. Alot of those games are portable now.

Anyway here is what the PS4 has lined up for 2015. I dont think a shortage of games will be an issue.
https://docs.google.com/spr...

LordMaim4149d ago

Exactly. You can't compare PS2 releases with current releases and not factor in games that are downloadable only. Obviously that wasn't an option in the PS2 era, so everything was released on disc. Nowadays, smaller companies don't even bother with a physical release. This is a bad case of misinterpreting data.

Errefus4149d ago

agree with you, also so many companies from previous generations either have closed and we do not have as many games as before.

SilentNegotiator4149d ago

That's a good point. The industry has changed a LOT since the 6th gen. Low budget games on ps2 were still put on discs, unlike most today.

Like I said a year ago on the first blog; indies are evening out things. They're redefining the industry and blurring the lines between indie and AAA with games like Minecraft (well, not technically anymore), No Man's Sky, etc.

Enemy4149d ago

204 PS4 games have been released
136 Xbox One games have been released

http://www.listwar.com/rele...

If anyone has a shortage of games, it's Microsoft. Don't even get me started on how bad Microsoft's 2015 lineup is looking. It's actually shocking.

slapedurmomsace4149d ago

@ Enemy,
This is an opinion piece that is trying to portray that this generation...ALL platforms...won't have as many games as previous generation due to cost associated with development. It has literally nothing to do with XB1 games vs PS4 games...this year or any year. I understand you saw a chance to jump on xbox one for a chance at a few cheap bubbles..but it's comments like that, that do nothing but divide our community. Either that, or you haven't developed any reading compression yet.

O/T...
If you are comparing straight disk games to disk games..than yeah but you can't completely ignore digital just because...it doesn't suit your argument.

kingbain904148d ago

Shockingly good! 2015 is looking better than 2014 for PS4 but XO 2015 is still looking better.

Breakman924144d ago

The only thing shocking here is the fact that N4G is full of playstation fanboys, you guys cant even accept the fact that the Ps exclusives are pathetic and the Xbox one lineup in 2015 is THOUSAND times better than the ps4 lineup. Quantum break, halo 5, scalebound, crackdown 3, Fable, Tomb raider. Xbox one owned the Ps4 this holiday, and directx 12 is coming soon to xbox one. Have fun playing your overhypedstation 4. Gonna laugh at the butthurt fanboys now. BTW the Wii U is better than all the "next gen" consoles.

GhostTurtle4142d ago

^
Oh look, another fanboy who calls others fanboys. Get real dude...

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mixelon4149d ago

I guess one difference is now we have a lot more smaller *non* disk based games. Some of which would likely have been disk based in the past, by smaller publishers.

Alsybub4149d ago (Edited 4149d ago )

When talking about the PS2 having 75 games after one year, is that referring to one year after the US release or one year after the Japanese release? It would only be fair to measure from when a console was first released in any territory since that is when development begins to ramp up.

In other words, it's an unfair comparison.

Since the PS2 released in the US 7 months after Japan that could mean that those 75 games were released at a rate of 3.94 per month (75/19 months). Since the PS4 was first introduced 12 months ago and it has had 40 games released it has a release rate of 3.33 (40/12 months). That's not a big difference.

Of course, if this is talking about from the Japanese release then please ignore me.

Ranma14149d ago (Edited 4149d ago )

Its the first release on any territory.

I want better graphics but I also want more variety and more risk taking :(

I feel more expensive games will affect innovation and risk taking. That will reduce this gen significantly

Alsybub4149d ago (Edited 4149d ago )

Fair enough. :) My math was for nothing. ;)

As far as risk taking, development costs and time, we need to hope that Sony puts a lot into development tools to improve things.

DefenderOfDoom24149d ago

My prediction from a year ago is we will see more games that are not bid budget , but not low budget either . I would like to see more games that take risk , focus on gameplay , that are not focused on cutscenes , that sell for under 30 dollars at the PS Store online.

Kal0psia4149d ago

^^^

I'd say Microsfot is already doing something like that. With Windows 10 and Dx12, if porting is that easy and what they claim Dx12 will help game artists focus more on game developement then technicals, I'd say Microsoft is doing something special. I mean it only makes sense since this is their field they specialize in. Also so far many develoeprs and engine developers are touting Dx12 to be a major tool for game development.

The ps2 was the best because it was the dominating console, and all major studios had only to focus on one console and therefore took risks. That is why even til' this day with better graphics and whatnot, it is stil the best gaming era.

Angeljuice4148d ago (Edited 4148d ago )

The "risk taking" has simply moved to smaller and mid-tier game developers.

It all works out perfectly, the big guns are free to spend huge budgets on AAA safe-bet titles whilst the smaller companies have the opportunity to make a name for themselves through innovation and creative gameplay.

Personally I feel that the diversity we are currently witnessing is very exciting. When I first started gaming (35 years ago) there weren't any huge AAA titles at all. If a game became big it was because it was good, not because some huge corporation pumped millions into it's development and advertising.

Today you can have a totally fulfilling and rounded gaming experience without even touching a AAA title should you so wish.

I believe that today's gaming environment is the healthiest it has been in years (if not decades).

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TransientDreamer4149d ago

We're just over a year in. Calm yourself.

Ranma14149d ago

This is a very reasonable comment.

But now i am just comparing PS4's first year with the past iterations.

Things dont look good in terms of quantity of games.

Some will say it doesnt matter i guess so long as theres quality.

But it does matter, as ps4 expensive development costs is hindering risk taking which in turns hinders the chance for more innovation

zero_gamer4149d ago

Quality on the PS4 is lacking as well. PS4's inFamous is the worst entry yet for the IP, and Shadow Fall is the worst Killzone game since the PS2 debut. Knack is a joke, and Driveclub...that game speaks for itself pretty much. Another Motorstorm would've likely been better for Evolution's talent.

2015 might be a better year, but how much? We'll see when the heavy hitters launch. I am not at all convinced the PS4 will be anything worth remembering by the time they announce the PS5. Sony is really playing the safe game this time around, while Nintendo and MS are trying their best with their bad hand of cards.

Eonjay4148d ago (Edited 4148d ago )

I have gotten plenty of digital games that I do enjoy and play frequently. They are games. The only way this argument holds water is if you completely ignore the move to digital distribution. If we do that, and act like they simply don't exist you argument is correct. If we don't cherry pick what counts as a game, the PS4 has 200 games playable right now. I submit that your bias as to method of delivery is intentional in order to produce the result that matches the narrative you are driving.

garrettbobbyferguson4149d ago

As a consumer you shouldn't be saying "Calm yourself". You should be demanding where the content is for the product that you purchased.

TransientDreamer4149d ago

Being a consumer doesn't give you cart blanche to make unreasonable demands.

garrettbobbyferguson4149d ago

Are you trying to tell me that demanding content for your product is an unreasonable demand? What the hell is wrong with you people. Is purchasing a car and expecting it to have basic features unreasonable? Why are video game companies allowed to mistreat their consumers, and those people such as yourself are okay with it?

Christopher4148d ago

That would be great if we didn't have a ton of content for the product as it is. Whether you like it or not, that's subjective. But, data shows that there is a ton of content for the product.

uth114149d ago

There's over 200 PS4 games after one year. It should outpace the PS3 at least.

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