
Just to point out, this is my first Blog post on here. I was just going thru some today for the fist time and i though "Hell, i might as well give my views about something and see what fellow gamers think about it".
Anyway, let me start off by saying that I am not a PES “fanboy”. I know the title might say otherwise but im definitely not. Im a huge football fan and at the end of the day all I want to do is play a decent footie game regardless whether its FIFA or PES. So far this generation I havent played one.
For me, PES6 was the greatest football game ever made, and still is. It was almost perfect. The key reason why it was so great for me was because it allowed you the play exactly how you wanted. If you wanted to play counter-attacking football, you could, all out attacking football, you could, pin a team into their box and pass around it ala Barca, you could, play everything thru a creative midfielder ala Zidane or Riquelme, you could. You get my point. Also another important point was the individuality which is all but gone from modern footie games. Every player felt different. Their strengths and weaknesses were more apparent and were vital to how you played the game. If you were on the ball with Zidane you would notice immediately because of his great control, tight dribbling and smooth passing. So it would be wise to get the ball to him every chance you could. Where on the otherhand a player like Roy Keane was great for pressurising players and winning the ball back but wasn’t very creative therefore you wouldn’t dribble much with him or try any killer passes. This injection of individulaity and simple, yet precise, gameplay mechancics made PES6 so great to play.
You would think it would only get better coming into the next generation but PES 2008 proved otherwise. PES 2008 was a huge surprise to PES fans simply because of how poor it was. But many fans, including me, just assumed it was a result of the jump to new consoles and PES 2009 would be the real successor to PES 6. We were wrong. Ok, but PES 2010 will surely be the real deal. We were wrong. The terrible animations, rigid gameplay and mistake prone goalies, among other flaws, were still present. Oh, but PES 2011, with way more animations, true 360 movement & passing and more “freedom”, this is it, PES is back! We were wrong. Although, as bad as it can be, PES 2011 does show hope, they tried new things and I could see what they were trying to achieve and it was the right idea. Except the results didn’t match the vision. It turned out to be the most frustrating game in the series. Erratic animations, clunky dribling, unresponsive players (especially defenders), terrible refereeing, non-existant close control or pace, mental goalkeeping, useless high through-ball, the “stumble”, broken shooting, poor AI…..that pretty much sums it up for me. Although I mentioned a lot of serious flaws, the thing is, these things can be easily fixed. Along with a much improved Master League and the introduction of ML Online and a brilliant tactic system, I still have hope for PES 2012 and the series in general. Even though I wouldn’t be surprised if I was in the minority regarding this. What do you think?
Now, the FIFA being overrated part. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate FIFA. Its not a “bad” game, but for me it aint a “great” game either. Yet the last two editions have received critical acclaim. “Footballing Perfection” as OPM put it. But that’s the thing, its not, its actually far from it. It does a lot of things right, it has fantastic presentation, a great soundtrack, nice graphics, smooth online, the ability to change aspects of the game from automatic to manual, the brilliant dynamic commentary and I love the aspect of playing around in the Arena during loading times. But when it comes down to the reason we bought the game, the gameplay, that’s where it fails for me.
When I first got FIFA10 I loved it. I loved the feel of it and the brilliant animations. But after a few games I started to notice things that snnoyed me more as I played. Every goalie I played against made world class saves. I found it hard to hit a low driven shot. The refereeing was very leniant. The game would get congested a lot where players would crowd a certain part of the pitch, especially midfield. Small players were knocked off the ball by stronger players way too easy. Defenders always go for the ball instead of containing players. The game sometimes felt like rugby with the overload of jostling. There was no pace, fast players were useless because anyone could catch them. One of the most annoying things was that every player felt the same and after a while every game felt the same. That is why I got sick of FIFA and started to wonder why it was getting such praise with so many glaring flaws.
FIFA11 promised a lot of improvements especially player individuality. Yet when I played it it was basically the same, with most of the same flaws and the only difference that really stood out for me was the slower passing. I rented it for the week and at the end of the week I was bitterly dissapointed as I actually thought it would be a great game. Unlike PES, I havent much hope for FIFA simply because what I consider to be a average game is getting great reviews and therefore EA are not under any pressure to make any major changes. Whereas because of the bad reviews, Konami are.
Now im stuck in a footie game limbo, last year I though for the first time I would have two great footie games, this year my expectations are much lower. Luckily for me there is loads of great games out around the same time.
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I signed up for the closed beta. I need to see how the gameplay is first and foremost.
This looks like a MH mixed with modern Battle Royal concepts. My problem is that big studios are less and less making SP games and more are focusing on MP games with a focus on live service. I just don't care about playing with other people and thereby being 'sold' the idea that I have to keep feeding money to play with them and look cool doing it. I'll keep looking to Indies for my SP fix most of the time it seems.

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We kind of both had posts on that article about PES needing "fixing" so I won't go into detail. In general I agree with you about PES (I preferred PES5 myself to PES6 but they were both great games) although I didn't actually play many of the first current-gen games (well I played but didn't own). PES2011 has a lot of problems, a vast vast amount, but I think Konami know where to head now but I think even they know they have a while to go to really get some of the players back who have jumped ship to FIFA. I remember reading an article a few weeks ago about Konami saying they're planning on a complete overhaul of the PES engine and they know that won't be finished for a number of years so I can't imagine the next few installments really changing a whole lot, but if they can fix some of the glaring 2011 problems in the next iterations then it will be a step forward.
As for FIFA I have to agree really. I played around 1000 games overall just online between FIFA 09 and FIFA 11 and nothing is any different (which is why I think FIFA 09 has been the best FIFA yet since that was the one that made the big jump), anytime I play it now it just feels like I'm playing a match I've already played, scoring the same goals I've already scored, it's a well polished game no doubt about it but there's no diversity or realism in it in that anything can happen and that every game is different which is a big problem when you think about it, but then a lot of that comes down to the argument about whether games like sports games need to stop being ultra-"realistic" and need to have more of a focus on fun back into them.
I'm not foing to pick up another footie game myself for a while I think (as you say too there are heaps of games out this holiday period so it's not like I'm really going to miss it) unless I see changes from both games. EA seem to be focusing on the impact engine (which admittedly does look fairly decent, although I want to see it in real-time first and won't be buying it to do so incase that's all that changes) so we'll see how they do but I think I'll pass on PES aswell.
(Apologies for the ridiculously long reply lol.)
Spot on, I totally agree with these sentiments although I did enjoy PES2008.
@news4geeks - It actually took me a while before i started to really dislike PES 2008. I was disappointed when i first got it but i actually do remember having fun with it for a while, especially with friends. But ultimately the flaws were too much and i just got fed up with it.
@Nate-Dog - Yeah, that article kinda made me write this. I really wanted to express that there is hope for PES and to remind people that these guys made the best football games not too long ago. Also my annoyance with the fact that FIFA is highly regarded as the pinnacle of modern football games yet it has such serious flaws that most people ignore.
I completely agree regarding a lack of diversity in FIFA, thats one aspect that PES, even at this stage, still does better than FIFA. Thats one of my favorite things about PES, the random little things that happen, even after tons of games when you think you've seen it all and then something completely random happens.
I will rent both games this year and see how they play. I really think Konami should release PES every two years. Support the game with squad updates and patches until the new releases. At least then they have way more time to work on and test there game.
Fifa 11 is awesome imo, but fifa 10 was hugely overated
FIFA is boring, I've never had that problem with PES.
Everyone made such huge noise about FIFA that I got 2011 instead of PES this year and regretted it. It just isn't my style. It doesn't even feel any different from fifa 2003 which was the last one I owned since then.
In my opinion they are trying to make it seem like they're doing things to it because they know they really can't justify asking people to pay another £40 for a transfer update every year.
Now, I live with the philosophy: If it's not broke, don't fix it.
So, if Fifa is such a good game, then why are ea trying to make it seem like they are doing something new every year?
Simple, because they think no one will buy it if they don't do something. So in the summer before it comes out they show some footage of moderately improved graphics and spout out some nonsense about new controls or dynamic something or other or bibberty bobberty confuddling and lie to everyone and say it isn't the exact same game they played last year.
The problem is that Fifa is broken. They should fix it. It is no fun. And that is why I have a problem with their lack of innovation in the FIFA franchise. So the next time someone says that "Fifa is the best football game" I refuse to believe them, having seen first-hand that they have not yet fixed the 'boring gameplay' issue.