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Groupthink

According to Merriam-Webster, Groupthink is : a pattern of thought characterized by self-deception, forced manufacture of consent, and conformity to group values and ethics.

Wiki explains it a bit better: Groupthink is a type of thought exhibited by group members who try to minimize conflict and reach consensus without critically testing, analyzing, and evaluating ideas. Individual creativity, uniqueness, and independent thinking are lost in the pursuit of group cohesiveness, as are the advantages of reasonable balance in choice and thought that might normally be obtained by making decisions as a group.

I’d say that most of the gaming community is guilty of this to some degree or another. It has been ingrained in us at a very early age to “share”, “get along”, and “play nice with others”. On the flip side, once we find friends with common interests, we develop bonds with them and form groups/cliques/”clans”. It’s human nature.

So, with that in mind, it’s easier to understand the psychology behind the “warring” factions between console owners.

Take the most recent example of this… Halo ODST reviews.

There are ppl on both sides (PS3 and Xbox360) who are acting like slobbering buffoons about this. I have a secret to let everyone know. I’ve NEVER played any Halo games. Not to say that I haven’t wanted to play them at some point, but I just never have. I don’t own an Xbox 360 and I doubt I will. Nothing against it per se, it’s just that my gaming preferences led me to the PS3 and I’m extremely happy with it.

Having said that, I certainly don’t begrudge people being excited about Halo: ODST. It’s getting great reviews for the most part. If Xbox gamers are happy about the game, cool! You see, it doesn’t affect me. I won’t be buying it; I more than likely won’t be playing it.

Now, what does this have to do with groupthink? Well, you have people on both sides (from the extremes on both sides, I hope) either saying it’s the best think since peanut butter and jelly in the same jar to people saying it’s as bad as Yaris.

And it’s all too easy to fall into the group that you “associate” with. Let’s all try to step back and appreciate games for what they are… games. If someone is excited about a particular game, let’s not try to rain on their parade.

Gaming, as has been said oodles of times, is supposed to be fun. Often times I find the discussions of gaming, not so much fun. It shouldn’t be that way.

kwicksandz6067d ago

n4g is a good example of groupthink. The odst articles are a bit extreme with 40 disgruntled ps3 fans calling it a 4 hour dlc rehash for every one interested gamer.

the forza VS GT debacle as well.

PS3 faithful is the only "accepted" group on n4g, which is a sad thing for a gaming site indeed.

HolyOrangeCows6066d ago

.....swarming with people screaming "PS3 fanboys!!" and maybe 2 actual PS3 fanboys (Whom came AFTER the long list of complaints about them).
With all of the complaints about the not present fanboys being "agreed" with like mad.

360 fanboys have a united little acceptance group here on N4g as well, but they only appear where they think it's safe, because they also lack the knowledge for an intelligible argument.
It's foolish to think it's only PS3 fanboys.

And for God's sake, stop blaming the PS3 fanboys exclusively for the disgruntlement towards ODST.
I've seen the leaked videos. People completing the game within 5 hours on heroic, Halo 3's recycled MP, one new mode without matchmaking......
....as a fan of Halo 3, I don't look forward to this new game one bit.

Jinxstar6066d ago

Ok first off. I hate when people lablel fanboys in a bad light. If I were a star wars fanboy would that make me a bad person? I am a Batman/Superman fanboy and would recommend them over Xmen anyday. Does that make me a bad person? What is wrong with being a fanboy? I am one of teh oldest PS3 fanboys here on N4G. I have been for the longest time. Even when I was down to 3 bubbles getting them stolen by the MASSIVE amounts of 360 fanboys who used to run rabidly on N4G. The tables have turned. Many many 360 fanboys have turned to the dark side but how many PS3 fans have? It makes sense to me... Sorry you don't quite see it.

The problem I have with Halo ODST is not the Halo name. It's not the stellar reviews. It's the fact that... Take this "Full priced" game and compare it's quality and length and everything else it offers to nearly any other full priced game coming out in the next few months and Take the name off the cover and what do you have.

Here lets do this.

"Tales of adventure guy 2. With thieves."
This game is 20+ hours long with varied environments, Unique characters with every cut scene fully mo cap'd, Awesome AWESOME graphics, great sound, Online co-op, Online Multiplayer, 20+ hours of single player gameplay, Puzzles, scale beyond most games we have seen to date, great interactive environments with a ton of stuff going on at once....

vs

"Space ring 3: Space marines who drop from orbit"

A game that is 5 hours long, No real update to graphics, A bunch of map packs that any fan of Space ring 3 already has, Decent sound/music, Acting that is so so, 1 new mode that has yet to prove it's longevity...

Now those are 2 big exclusives coming to competitive consoles. i wont go into comparing consoles now because no matter how much the PS3 has over the 360 all I ever hear is "Cross game chat" like people have never heard of a phone...

Now for my 2 cent's MS is selling a game that needed very very little budget and they have been sitting on it for MONTHS waiting for Xmas and in doing so helped push many other quality games to next year. The other thing is this game is what I would consider the pinnacle of milking the golden cow. Very low budget and very little new and they blew it up to a full retail game. This is the part where "it doesn't affect me" comes into play. If MS thinks they can get away with this then whats stopping others from doing the same. Giving us low quality and short experiences for full retail price. As gamers we should demand more not settle for less because a game has a certain name on it.... I am a huge fan of God of War and can't wait for 3 but if sony was re releaseing the previous 2 at an incredibly inflated price I would not buy it. As it is you get 2 of the best PS2 games digitally remastered with trophy support for 40$. THAT is a deal. It's still milking but it's not full retail and shouldn't be.

That kind of behavior I applaud. Giving those who didn't have a chance to play a chance to see what all the awesome is about at a fair price while making money thats going to support their other projects and products. I know it's kind of apples and oranges but thats how I see it. 2 quality games that are over 10 hours each for 40$ with all kinds of improvements vs a old engine running a very short game that offers almost nothing to previous fans.

Really if you want to play Halo ODST... supporting that is supporting getting taken for a ride in my eyes and the more we let the industry do that the more it will happen.... however if you want classic games remastered support that. If you want cookie cutter short games that offer you nearly nothing then support ODST. To me if your a HUGE FAN then rent it.... Because if your a huge fan you already have all the DLC... I just can't figure it out and why this is so hard for people to see...

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

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Jin_Sakai2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio2d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing2d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster922d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit2d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing2d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster922d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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