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Clarification: What the Valve, and Sony partnership mean.

On June 15, 2010 Gabe Newell announced Portal 2 for the PS3, and said "Portal 2 on the PlayStation 3, would be the best CONSOLE* version."*(Note the word console meaning the best way to play Portal 2 if you have no way to play on PC.) I've seen alot of people take this to make it to use it for the stupid imaginary console war, because they think he said "Portal 2 on the PlayStation 3 will be the best version." Granted, it does come with Cross-platform play(Mac, and PC only cross-platform co-op, meaning you can play on Mac with PC, Mac with PS3, PS3 with PC) a digital PC download version of Portal 2. The second part is people also think Gabe Newell announced Steam for the PS3, which is also false. He announced Steamworks, which is totally different from Steam. Steamworks allows you to play cross-platform co-op, cloud game saves, and using your Steam, and PSN Ids to play with Friends when you play cross-platform co-op. Steam is a digital store for PCs, and Macs, if Steam was coming to the PlayStation you would hear alot more about it. Steam on PS3 would be too much competition for Sony, and it would probably cause some problems. Valve is a great company, and if Portal 2 is great success on the PlayStation 3, then more games from Valve on the PS3. Also you have to realize Sony is also helping Valve develop Portal 2, so it can be a success.

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-Alpha5566d ago

Glad you said this because it most definitely is true that people have serious misconceptions about what is happening.

Christopher5566d ago

Though, technically, the PS3 is _the best version_ considering it comes with the PS3 and PC version for a single price tag.

Now, having said that, the PS3 won't have the best graphics, performance, etc. In fact, those will likely fair worse on the PS3 compared to the 360. The only thing it will have is Steamworks.

Sad as it is, that's not much of a selling point to the general public.

Parapraxis5566d ago (Edited 5566d ago )

"In fact, those will likely fair worse on the PS3 compared to the 360."
Why is that? This is the first game Valve is actually developing themselves for PS3. How about we hold off on making this kind of assumption?

Not "all" multiplats are lesser versions on the PS3, as much as some people would like to falsely believe, there are actually a good number of games which are better on PS3 (graphically) than their 360 counterpart.

Christopher5566d ago

Source Engine hasn't previously done well on the PS3. It's possible it might match up, but history has shown that PC-based engines run into issues when ported to the PS3. Unreal Engine is another example of this.

That's why I said it's likely the 360 will perform better graphically and technically.

pr0digyZA5566d ago

True cgoodno you get the pc version with it, but you still pay twice the amount. I could get two different games for the price of that one game therefore saving me money.

Christopher5566d ago

*** True cgoodno you get the pc version with it, but you still pay twice the amount. I could get two different games for the price of that one game therefore saving me money.***

Huh? PC is $50 and PS3 is $60. If you buy PC, you get PC. If you buy PS3, you get PS3 and PC. That's only $10 more for both versions.

pr0digyZA5566d ago (Edited 5566d ago )

Oh ok wow where I live you can get 2 games for the price of one console game so it's usually always PC version unless it's an exclusive. Yours sounds expensive for games.

Christopher5566d ago

Wow, sorry to hear that pr0digyZA. Very weird to hear about the huge difference in prices since you would expect that cost associated to be similar (tax, s&h, etc.) rather than higher on one platform over another.

pr0digyZA5566d ago (Edited 5566d ago )

Ye it's sad although I worked out that we pay a little more for console game and quite a bit less for PC games so I suppose it works out to an even number, I feel sorry for the console only owners in my country because if you bought 2 multiplatform console games you could get 4-5 PC games, which is actually quite significant.

*edit: can I just say derail my bad*

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LtSkittles5566d ago

You're welcome. It's been bothering me since it was announced.

Godmars2905566d ago

I think my only personal over-expectation is that they'll be doing direct patching. Posting mods directly on PSN with the option of charging for them or making them free like PC/Mac versions.

SocalBeer5566d ago

It means it's time for a sexy party !!!!

Dongato5566d ago

Maybe using this steamworks is how Sony will have cross game chat since steamworks will allow cross platform chat (I believe). Who knows but it would be one way to do it that does not infringe on any copyright laws if that is truly the case in what is holding up cross game chat on PS3.

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Xbox Game Pass Ultimate Price Update

Starting today, Game Pass Ultimate drops from $29.99 to $22.99 a month. PC Game Pass will also drop from $16.49 to $13.99 a month. Prices may vary by region.

Beginning this year, future Call of Duty titles won’t join Game Pass Ultimate or PC Game Pass at launch. New Call of Duty games will be added to Game Pass Ultimate and PC Game Pass during the following holiday season (about a year later), while existing Call of Duty titles already in the library will continue to be available.

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Neonridr7h ago

can't wait to hear how this is spun negatively.

darthv724h ago

Its nice there is some kind of drop... but is that all they really value CoD to be, a lousy $7 a month?

I was hoping it would drop by $10.

MisterBoots1h ago

That $7 equates to $84 per year - which is more than COD new ($69.99 + tax).

So - you can get the exact same thing - and save a few bucks - or you can skip COD and pocket the savings or use toward another game - or games if on sale.

That’s how I’m taking it - and is enough for me to sign back up after canceling the day it went to $29.99.

fr0sty53m ago

It's unlikely that COD is going to be the only title they stop offering day one, but we'll see how they play their hand.

1Victor4h ago

Can’t wait to hear how this will be spun extremely positive. 🤣
I wonder why knowing Microsoft thick head something must has happened in the background in the levels of Xbox one and Kinect 🤷🏿

fr0sty50m ago

Any price cut is a good thing in this day and age, but it also reveals a flaw in GamePass' design that we've all been calling out for years... it's unsustainable, especially with day and date releases on new games. COD won't be the only game they exclude, they're setting a precedent with it that they'll likely expand upon in the future.

At least they're being realistic about it now. I bet in the future we're going to start seeing them try to subsidize the high price of new consoles by making you buy 2-3 years of gamepass with it to get the console cheaper. I'm still not sure that'll be enough to save either the hardware or gamepass, but we'll see.

LucasRuinedChildhood2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Well, they're removing their biggest game from being Day 1 on the service so GamePass users can buy it instead. That's the intention.

They increased the price to $30, then removed COD and dropped it to still be above the old price.

It's an understandable compromise but the consumer Ultimately is getting less.

Think the calculation is that *most* COD users don't play that many games and aren't interested in GamePass. The GamePass users who do like COD would just buy it anyway. MS reportedly lost out a lot of money last year putting COD on GamePass.

Bathyj2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Well Call of duty could just be the beginning. What other games can they trim from the service to get the price down? How long before it's just the Xbox core first party studio games and not the one to everquired?

Create an interesting scenario with Call of duty as well. Will people wait a year to play it? Does that split the fan base? Will it hurt to Call of duty more than a benefits Game pass? These are all legitimate questions which we will find the answers to in the coming years

And I don't consider my post negative spin just realistic observation. At the very least this backtracking can be seen as an admittance that the previous strategy of gamepass was not sustainable as most of us said.

darthv721h ago

I'd get rid of the EA and Ubisoft+ too. That should bring the price down more. The only game from either of those parts of the service i played was jedi Fallen order / survivor. both of which i also bought on disc so it was more of a convenience i didnt have to put the disc in to play when i was playing them via remote play. And really that is why i still use GPU and PS+. its the convenience of having the games ready to play from a remote location. I havent picked up my consoles controllers in at least a few years. I guess that makes me a bad gamer, but so what. i'm still playing the games, just not physically on the machines themselves. GCloud and Portal are my go to now.

GhostScholar2h ago

They’ll say no one is buying game pass so they had to drop the price , even though it’s been extremely profitable.

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KicksnSnares6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

New Xbox Boss the 🐐?

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Vits6h ago

In my region, it’s still more expensive than it was before the last price hike, but it’s a far more viable price point.

Losing Call of Duty from the service, honestly, has zero effect on me, and given they chose to make it so, it’s probably not the big seller they originally thought. Overall, it’s really good news, but I still think they have work to do on the tier structure, having Premium and PC at the same price point with different features feels odd.

Lightning776h ago

Yep take COD out. Them waiting a year is interesting but it make sense. They don't want certain ppl waiting 4 to 6 months they want fomo and maximum sales. Wait a year while the new one releases.

Ok so far so good.

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