Many in my other blog post still , may not seem to get how the PlayStation LLC is allowed to remain Separate ran inside Sony Corporation.. This blog post is to show How.
A member was nice enough to post this counter argument for me:
Cobra951
[Short take: It makes no real difference, other than bean-counter and legal-dept headaches. The reality is that both divisions and wholly owned subsidiaries are part of the controlling entity--in this case, Sony.
That was my thought before doing a bit of searching, and now I've confirmed it.]
Actually it does make a difference and for many reasons you seem to not be aware of.
Well let's take the very main counter point to head by pointing out in very simple terms why it's not so easy to view such Corporation control & Management of a Subsidiary in that way..when you have set a Subsidiary in the Way PlayStation as a Subsidiary is set up.
First the main Sony Corporation board of Directors.
http://www.sony.net/SonyInf...
Now let's take a look at The PlayStation Subsidiary Corporation info & it's board of Directors .
Now if you notice
Outline of SIE LLC
1.
Name:
Sony Interactive Entertainment LLC
2.
Location:
San Mateo, California, the United States
3.
Principal of Business:
Research, development and sales of PlayStation®
hardware, software, content and network services
4.
Capital:
2 million USD
5.
Date of Incorporation:
Friday, April 1st of 2016
6.
Fiscal Year End:
March 31st
7.
Directors in Charge and Member of the Board: Reference below
Directors in Charge and Member of the Board of SIE LLC
Andrew House, President and Global CEO
Kazuo Miura, Deputy President
John (Tsuyoshi) Kodera, Deputy President
Kazuo Hirai
Kenichiro Yoshida
https://www.sony.com/en_us/...
Now say investors that own stock into the main Sony Corp want Sony to do something with the PlayStation LLC, but guess what, they can request, but since the only
Stock holder is an non alive Entity..IE:
the Sony Corporation itself..who sits on the board on The Sony Corporation? And who sits on the board of the PlayStation LLC?
IE: the Sony Corporation has a board and So does PlayStation LLC.. But Kaz sits on and among top on both companies board of Directors.
Investors & Stock holders of the main Sony Corporation has no say so or management of any or have any investments directly into the PlayStation LLC.
And since Kaz and the board are the representative of the Sony Corporation's invested interest into the PlayStation LLC , and the Head's of the board is the one who looks out for both companies vested interests are, you pretty much see they are both one and the same..
it is the board that gets to determine the control of PlayStation not investors or stock holders out side of the only one stock holder.
Which so happens to be in blunt terms a Corporation created Entity. Not even a live person.
Hedge fund manager asked Sony's board to have an initial public offering of the entertainment assets for 20% of the assets to atleast to be offered for public offering.. The board of directors gave a resounding vote of No..
Therefore, even a hedge fund management company with 7% controlling your interest into the entire Sony Corporation fails to have the board offer the entertainment assets for public offering, what does that tell you?
PlayStation LLC is generating profit and investments right back into not only itself, but has generated profits and new products to the market that has had high interest into the product on a consumer Level such as PSVR.
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Dear team,
Xbox has always been different.
We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.
re-evaluating exclusivity 💀
PS players will need to go back to pretending to dislike Xbox games
Or meaning since it’s doing so good they might just do everything day 1.
They didnt say re-evaluating their multiplatform approach.
🤣🤣🤣 Xbox is so dead. I know you scared🤣🫵ӿ 97;
Even when the topic is strictly Xbox he can't stop talking about PlayStation. Xbox has basically become the hate of PlayStation... and not much else.
This whole mess is the result of bad decisions and strategy from those who have "the vision" inside the company.
Hurt over video games 🤣🤣
Lmao we all grew and got jobs but apparently you stayed home broke 🤣🤣.
Man I love loyal dogs like you. MS kicked Spit and slapped you around but you still come back on all 4s.
Good little boy 🤣🤣
My only question is what games are PlayStation gamers gonna play now? They don’t really come out with new games anymore. I’m looking forward to wolverine, but after that then what?
Lmao
There’s no way after everything it’s going back, the damage is done
What you are seeing now is the new management telling what the core fanbase (aka…you) want to hear so they are pumped full of hope and are more likely to invest in the next Xbox console
When Phil took over after the awful Xbox One reveal he did the same thing, he told people what they wanted to hear for damage control.
It’s crazy people are getting suckered into this again.
FWIW..... wasn't the new management speaking to the other staff.... not so much us (regular folk)?
And you'll now go back to again thinking exclusives suddenly matter, that multiplatform is no longer the future, or that revenue from multiplatforms doesn't matter, like all you flop flopping xbox grifters lol.
The whole post just sounds like the previous phil corpo slop talk to me, whole thing reads like a nothing burger lol.
“re-evaluating exclusivity”
She also said this.
“The model that got us here won’t be the one that takes us forward.”
I don't know if they have a model anymore it's flipped so many times since the xbox one reveal
There's a bunch just like him but that's what happens when some rely on dreams, hope and wishful thinking. lol
"pretending"? Bro gears hasnt broke 1mil on ps5, and starfield hasn't passed 200k, Hellblade 2 was even stated to be a financial disappointment in sales on its own console, let alone ps5. Im not saying people don't like them, but they certainly aren't setting the community on fire, Forza may be different tho
Xbawx is ''re-evaluating exclusivity''... Translation: After throwing all sort of crap to the wall to see if something sticks but clearly nothing worked, we, including our lord ''in charge'' Phil came to the conclusion that exclusives indeed do matter so please forget if we ever said otherwise.
Yup, I feel it in my gut, next gen belongs to xbox, PS6 is cooked...
Someone can’t sleep after those 5 million forza games PURCHASED by PlayStation owners🤣 🧌 💥
Well with the decreased price of gamespass even with cod off it there is no way it is profitable given the cost of making their 1st party games (not if you actually include that cost in gamespass costs which they typically dont but should) they will just make a loss without the sales on
If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.
Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.
We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+
True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.
I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.
If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.
Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.
Funny world where Sony is pro consumer and Xbox is not? At least according to what you loyalists have been saying all this time 🤭
@itveds For how many years have you been doing this sad stuff? For how many years have you been creating fake accounts to troll? For how many years have you always been cl vnn
Pathetic incels with nothing better to do than argue over a box... Because they don't have any good games to play on theirs, obviously. If your precious box is so special, why don't you shut the fuck up and go play it?
I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.
I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.
They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?
Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.
More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.
Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.
PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy
Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.
The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.
It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.
They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.
Insider Gaming writes: "Marathon was one of the best-selling video games in March 2026 in the United States. On Wednesday, Circna released the best-selling games of the month, and it featured six new releases along with two games returning to the top 20 after previously falling out."
Is it April fools day again?
The game is dead.
EDIT: the numbers are fudged. “digital sales on Nintendo and Xbox weren’t included in the data”
well it's not on Switch / Switch 2.. so their number would be zero.
The game had a decent launch however the userbase numbers are dwindling on Steam.
“ Is it April fools day again?
The game is dead.
EDIT: the numbers are fudged. “digital sales on Nintendo and Xbox weren’t included in the data”
Does it hurt you to hear a SONY game was BEST selling ?
You gotta let go of those OBCURED feelings 🤷🏿
I mean the only reason MLB was the best selling title was because it was multi-platform. Likewise with Marathon. Will ring true for MS games. Only Nintendo titles are truly flexing their muscles when they chart as they are only to be found there.
It's kinda funny how this Obscure guy lives rent-free in your head. lol
Does Phil also live there?
It's kinda funny how this Obscure guy lives rent-free in your head. lol
Does Phil also live there?
I’m sorry did you wrote something smart ?
Or are you trying to to be funny because you failed at both
Now kid run to mommy legs the grown ups are talking.
Don’t bother writing anything I will not respond to a bratty child like you
Yeah sure, yet the player count is no where near what they want for a AAA game with so much money behind it
Why people are trying to spin this game like it’s done overly amazing is baffling to me.
It won’t even be a blip on peoples radars by the end of the year .
You must me typically wrong cuz those Steam chart numbers (AKA where the game sold the MOST) is less than what Hunt has, and Hunt didn't cost $500 million to make lol
Interesting you wrote there. I think SIE can handle this on their own. I think PSVR will profit along with PS4.
Thanks, if you go though the corporate structure time line of the Playstation's Subsidiary, you can see just how its not only structured but just how successful this CO venture was for Sony ..
In 1993
Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCEI) is established as a joint venture between Sony Corporation and Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc.
So when it was 1st established it was Incorporated right off the bat.
By may 1994
Sony Computer Entertainment America is established (A division of Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.)(CA, USA)
I think this is where many gamers and Media are getting confused..see , that's a Division of SCEI..Not the Sony Corporation..., it's been around as it's own Incorporated Subsidiary with its very own Divisions it has itself..lol
https://www.sie.com/en/corp...
This also allows asset protection in the process.. Example: say is if Sony did ever decide to sell off the SIE LLC Subsidiary & all of the subsidiaries Holdings the PlayStation SIE LLC has, in stock certificate's you can have neat triggers built into the deal at the time of creation.
Example stock certificate front face
http://www.notarysuperstore...
Now what's also really important is the back of the certificate itself..and the filed business prospectuses and Corporation structure and if there is Corporation transaction triggers set up in contingency in..such and such case of examples for the Corpus request at the completion of the deal or even future deals!
What's in a friendly term or not so friendly term depending on which side your sitting on as Stock Buy- sale triggers..lol
And they can get real nasty in how they can be set up. And those triggers are very important.
http://www.wilaw.com/news-a...
Example:
https://www.lawinsider.com/...
If say for instance the Sony Corporation decided to vote and have SIE LLC go up for sale, SIE LLC could have a first Option buy - back - sell trigger in effect!
Thus in the case of a Hostile take over of say the Sony Corporation, and the current board of its Directors are disposed and are replaced and a vote was set to sell off its SIE LLC Subsidiary.. There could be a trigger in effect that allows SIE LLC to buy back it's stock off of The Sony Corporation at fair market Valuation of its created stock option when SIE LLC stock was first created...as in 1993 fair market Value not even the fair market Valuation of what it would be worth today!
It's pretty much the screw you to the corporation that wanted to go after your company in a bid for a Hostile take over.
And since Somthing like a Blind Trust, or a Subsidiary that has no public buy in you would not have an idea this first option : buy - back - sell through trigger is on or in effect until after you purchased said Corporation. And after the new board votes, and if SIE LLC decides to enforce that trigger.
It could decide to forego the trigger if SIE LLC decided..but it could decide to choose to use said trigger. For all we know it could even be an Auto trigger..yikes
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