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PlayStation is not a Division of Sony. It's a Whole owned Subsidiary.

Many of the gamer web sites and the Gamer review, and forum websites have tendencies to refer to The PlayStation part of Sony as a Division of Sony..this is completely incorrect. There is a big difference between the two terms & structure in Business.

This blog post is to clarify and show just some of the Differences.

What is the difference? Look and See for yourself.

Well it's defined, by many Business structure definition as such.

Difference Between Division and Subsidiary

Division vs Subsidiary

A division is a part of a business entity. This means that a division, although it operates in a different name, is still a piece of the entity itself. On the other hand, a subsidiary is an entirely different company, a separate one, which is owned by another usually bigger entity. But in some cases, the parent company is a much smaller entity than that of the subsidiary company. In a more concrete analogy, you can say that a division is a part of the body, let us say hand, for instance, and while a subsidiary is the offspring with an entirely separate body but is still owned by the parent company.

Another difference between a subsidiary and a division is that the subsidiary can perform an entirely different operation from that of its parent company while a division cannot.

SUMMARY

1.A division still operates as part of the parent company, although it has a different name, while a subsidiary is a totally separate company from the parent company.

2.A division’s operations should be related to the operations of the parent company while a subsidiary company’s operations need not to be in line with its parent company’s operations.

3.The condition of the division will greatly affect the parent company while the condition of a subsidiary will not have any effect on the parent company.

http://www.differencebetwee...

SIE is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Sony Corporation and has global functions and regional headquarters in California, London and Tokyo.

https://www.sony.com/en_us/...

As you can See, the PlayStation is a separate structure of Subsidiaries that are several separate entities under the PlayStation Subsidiary LLC.

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joeorc3533d ago (Edited 3533d ago )

Oh OK so if it's false , than prove it..instead of just saying it's false, why do you claim it's false? Explain why!

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Hoffmann3533d ago

I don't like to get spam PM's about submissions, no matter how good, bad, right or wrong they are.

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KwietStorm_BLM3533d ago

What's your purpose in all this?

Oschino19073532d ago (Edited 3532d ago )

It's obvious they are a professor of semantics at pretentious university.

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XXanderXX3533d ago (Edited 3533d ago )

So basically Sony is the Mother , PlayStation is the daughter and no matter how old the daughter is it still must do as told by the mother. Correct

MasterCornholio3533d ago (Edited 3533d ago )

If it was a division they would have a lot less freedom in their decision making. One of the things that SIEA is able to decide is their budget allocation and collecting said funds for that budget. If they were a division the parent company would make all those decisions for them. There are other things as well but what I mentioned is one of the most important ones.

Thank you for the article Joeorc.

@Bak

A division and a subsidiary are not the same thing.

LexHazard793533d ago

It still a Sony Company. It like NBC network. Its has it own board of Directors and all that but at end of day NBC is still owned by Comcast.

When its time for financial reports Sony still has to post Playstation numbers for investors.

joeorc3533d ago

@BakPAin

[When its time for financial reports Sony still has to post Playstation numbers for investors]

Hold on there, not entirely true..you see this right here...

What is an
'Unconsolidated Subsidiary'

"An unconsolidated subsidiary is a company that is owned by a parent company, but whose individual financial statements are not included in the consolidated or combined financial statements of the parent company to which it belongs. Instead, this type of company appears in the combined financial statement as an investment."

http://www.investopedia.com...

All would be required would be such data as how much Capitol went out from the holding into Subsidiaries, or How much is received.. Or transactions between the Subsidiary to the Capitol holding Corporation if that is how it's set up. Disclosure to another Corp about day and date expenditure of the Subsidiary spending or its own Subsidiary spending would not have to be disclosed. Only if it pertaining to the holding companies stake in said Subsidiaries.

So with how many systems it has sold in such a sales Quarter, yes..how much Capitol the hold company will gain from those sales..yes..how much the Subsidiary's cut is on those sales ..no
LoL

Some things are not disclosed for a reason if you would not have to. Since the PlayStation board members are people like Kaz, in the case of Sony's Subsidiaries it's really not a problem..except for outside investors wanting to get in on the PlayStation Subsidiary by asking to have it taken public and a repeated ...Answer of No being the result..LOL

XXanderXX3533d ago

So if for any reason PlayStation screws up with it resources , budget or has mismanagement issue they are on their own and have to recover on their own with no extra resource backing from sony .

joeorc3533d ago (Edited 3533d ago )

@XXanderXX9m ago(Edited 9m ago)
"So basically Sony is the Mother , PlayStation is the daughter and no matter how old the daughter is it still must do as told by the mother. Correct"

That would depend on how the whole owned Subsidiary is set up in its structures.. Sony has as the main body is a Holding company..that's why there is a LLC..a limited Partnership, thus the Subsidiary has its very own Board of Directors it's own financial Ballance sheet , investments of its own etc..out side of the main Sony Corpus, that's playstations..those as of the very post above States.

["A subsidiary is a totally separate company from the parent company."]

Thus it's the separate child reference...

The common stock is held by the Corpus of Sony , IE: there is no stockholders or any of Playstation's stock as offered into a public stock option, now stock holders.. Do not exist except for one single stock holder and that is the created company its self..its pretty much holds the stock but does nothing else, in ver basic blunt terms is playstation is just a held Asset!

So taking the key of LLC designated listing..

"while a subsidiary company’s operations need not to be in line with its parent company’s operations."

There is no stock holders calling the shots to the LLC other than the PlayStation LLC board of directors, those just so happen to be people like Kaz anyway..lol

They have to call meetings , days minutes... Have board meeting discussion's etc..but it's not Sony calling those itself , it's the PlayStation Subsidiary's very own Board of Directors.. PlayStation is in essence a private company in of itself .

Christopher3533d ago

Not really, actually. There are instances where the subsidiary can even work to separate itself from the company and operate as a separate company. It's harder for the business to re-absorb a subsidiary in certain situations, meaning they lack certain power other than to force certain others out of position within the subsidiary (which can be difficult as well).

ApocalypseShadow3533d ago (Edited 3533d ago )

Gamers like Joe and I knew this already from the jump. It's one of the reasons why they can't be touched. PlayStation is part of Sony but it isn't so that investors like the last one don't change Sony into companies like Microsoft,EA, Activision and Ubisoft: profit machines that only care about things that sell and forego the rest and wanted to break up Sony. Can I get a beyond good and evil, road rash, crimson skies, hero or pitfall game again? Nope.

That means no Sony investment in smaller niche games, Indies, etc. Basically a round Robin of uncharted, gt, god of war, etc every year like those other companies do milking Madden,Assassin's Creed,COD, Forza, etc.the bottom line is to makes profits, but there would be no bound, abzu, hot shots, etc that add variety to gamers who don't play those other games mentioned but don't sell as big.

I'm glad Sony and Kaz stuck to their guns and stayed Japanese rise or fall and didn't become more like American companies that don't care about gamers. PlayStation being a subsidiary and doing well gives us gamers variety in games and innovation like PSVR .

SIE should have called themselves "the untouchables."

ApocalypseShadow3533d ago

http://www.gamesindustry.bi...
http://www.ps3hax.net/archi...

Investors wanted more control and Sony made it unavailable to them. SIE controls what's going on and since it makes money, a lot for Sony, they are left to the control of the directors. They are owned but you can't buy a stake into them like american companies.

TwoForce3533d ago

Dude, I understand what you saying. But Jesus, just don't go over head of yourself.

Cueil3533d ago

omg I'm not sure what I just read here, but I'm pretty sure this is the words of a delusional fanboy

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Xbox has always been different.

We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Itveds3h ago

re-evaluating exclusivity 💀

PS players will need to go back to pretending to dislike Xbox games

pwnmaster30003h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Or meaning since it’s doing so good they might just do everything day 1.

They didnt say re-evaluating their multiplatform approach.
🤣🤣🤣 Xbox is so dead. I know you scared🤣🫵ӿ 97;

Itveds3h ago

Aww you’re hurt that they’re going back to exclusives!

The mask has slipped… we know you PS gamers LOVE Xbox games

Eonjay8m ago

Even when the topic is strictly Xbox he can't stop talking about PlayStation. Xbox has basically become the hate of PlayStation... and not much else.

pwnmaster30003h ago

Hurt over video games 🤣🤣

Lmao we all grew and got jobs but apparently you stayed home broke 🤣🤣.
Man I love loyal dogs like you. MS kicked Spit and slapped you around but you still come back on all 4s.

Good little boy 🤣🤣

Itveds3h ago

You’re going to have to go back to pretending you don’t like Xbox games 😂😂

Awkward

GhostScholar1h ago

My only question is what games are PlayStation gamers gonna play now? They don’t really come out with new games anymore. I’m looking forward to wolverine, but after that then what?

-Foxtrot3h ago

Lmao

There’s no way after everything it’s going back, the damage is done

What you are seeing now is the new management telling what the core fanbase (aka…you) want to hear so they are pumped full of hope and are more likely to invest in the next Xbox console

When Phil took over after the awful Xbox One reveal he did the same thing, he told people what they wanted to hear for damage control.

It’s crazy people are getting suckered into this again.

GhostScholar1h ago

I mean I always buy both systems, so none of this affects me.

CrashMania2h ago

And you'll now go back to again thinking exclusives suddenly matter, that multiplatform is no longer the future, or that revenue from multiplatforms doesn't matter, like all you flop flopping xbox grifters lol.

The whole post just sounds like the previous phil corpo slop talk to me, whole thing reads like a nothing burger lol.

Jin_Sakai1h ago

“re-evaluating exclusivity”

She also said this.

“The model that got us here won’t be the one that takes us forward.”

TriniOutsider1h ago

It must be miserable being someone like you.

Aloymetal43m ago

There's a bunch just like him but that's what happens when some rely on dreams, hope and wishful thinking. lol

isarai_lee52m ago

"pretending"? Bro gears hasnt broke 1mil on ps5, and starfield hasn't passed 200k, Hellblade 2 was even stated to be a financial disappointment in sales on its own console, let alone ps5. Im not saying people don't like them, but they certainly aren't setting the community on fire, Forza may be different tho

Aloymetal48m ago

Xbawx is ''re-evaluating exclusivity''... Translation: After throwing all sort of crap to the wall to see if something sticks but clearly nothing worked, we, including our lord ''in charge'' Phil came to the conclusion that exclusives indeed do matter so please forget if we ever said otherwise.
Yup, I feel it in my gut, next gen belongs to xbox, PS6 is cooked...

Itveds39m ago

Could be worse… they could be Sony pumping out flops like Marathon and concord 😂😂🤣

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Outside_ofthe_Box3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster30003h ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

Itveds3h ago

Gonna be a funny world where Xbox games are exclusive and Sony games are not lol

Outside_ofthe_Box1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Funny world where Sony is pro consumer and Xbox is not? At least according to what you loyalists have been saying all this time 🤭

VenomUK50m ago

@itveds For how many years have you been doing this sad stuff? For how many years have you been creating fake accounts to troll? For how many years have you always been cl vnn

CrashMania2h ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

maximusprime_2h ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

BeHunted1h ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

Itveds42m ago

They don’t like talking about that

Concord… concord 2… concord 3

shadowT2h ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers2h ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

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Marathon Was One Of The Best-Selling Games In March 2026

Insider Gaming writes: "Marathon was one of the best-selling video games in March 2026 in the United States. On Wednesday, Circna released the best-selling games of the month, and it featured six new releases along with two games returning to the top 20 after previously falling out."

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92nar1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Is it April fools day again?

The game is dead.

EDIT: the numbers are fudged. “digital sales on Nintendo and Xbox weren’t included in the data”

92nar1d 3h ago

How’s concord 2, sorry I mean marathon doing? 🤣🤣

Neonridr9h ago

well it's not on Switch / Switch 2.. so their number would be zero.

The game had a decent launch however the userbase numbers are dwindling on Steam.

1Victor9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

“ Is it April fools day again?

The game is dead.

EDIT: the numbers are fudged. “digital sales on Nintendo and Xbox weren’t included in the data”

Does it hurt you to hear a SONY game was BEST selling ?
You gotta let go of those OBCURED feelings 🤷🏿

Neonridr9h ago

I mean the only reason MLB was the best selling title was because it was multi-platform. Likewise with Marathon. Will ring true for MS games. Only Nintendo titles are truly flexing their muscles when they chart as they are only to be found there.

Outside_ofthe_Box8h ago

Can't wait to see how this is spun negatively. 😜

-Foxtrot3h ago

Yeah sure, yet the player count is no where near what they want for a AAA game with so much money behind it

Why people are trying to spin this game like it’s done overly amazing is baffling to me.

It won’t even be a blip on peoples radars by the end of the year .

Soy8m ago

So........doing better than most expected, but not enough to make back what it cost.

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