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The GTA IV Factor

     .Well guys it's almost time for GTAIV. The game thats supposed to change next-gen the way it changed gaming on xbox and ps2.The so called sand box game.First off I'm not a gta hater.No i have bought everyone except the psp titles.I think it will be a great game,as i have yet to play it,just i dont think it will be a generation defining title.Here is my reasons why i think gta iv will not live up to gta3

Let's all think back to the ps2 days before gta3. Most of the games were a closed scripted experience. You could only go where the story wanted to take you.Everyone at the time,me included,were dreaming of a game where you go do what you wanted.Then the previews of GTA3 came along.Man did it blow me away.Although even looking at the pictures in the magazines and on the net at the time couldn't show me the new experience of gaming i was about to explore.I bought it the day it came out.I remember me and my wife were going out to diner that night and i was just gonna pop it in and try.We couldn't put it down.Anyway that game let you do almost anything. There was no game like it out. It turned ps2 sells on its head cause it was the only game at the time like it.Now think ahead to GTAIV.I think it has very good graphics,but will it blow you away like the first time you played GTA3.Did Super Mario Sunshine blow you away like the first time you played Mario 64. Thats what i mean.
 
          Lets take a look a this gens console wars.You have microsoft, who have invested 50 Million, who is banking on GTAIV to suceed and be this consoles big title.They have been banking on it since day one.Peter Moore even got a tattoo for oct. 07,whoops,.They are hoping you'll love it and buy the downloadable content.Then we have Sony ,who's own PS3 has been lagging this gen, who seems to be taking a more laid back approach to the whole saga.They didn't try to buy the exclusive rights this gen,nor did they try and get super exclusive content for this game.Now here is my take in which some of you will scream fanboy,but i think GTAIV won't be a super sucess after a few months on the market. In fact i think that the multiplayer mode will only be the saving factor since it is a new addition and may be very good. People are gonna grow bored with it and sales will slow,and downloadable content had better be some type of vice city if they want to people to buy it. I think sony is thinking like i am.People played GTA to death last gen and just because it was popular last gen doesn't mean this gen it will be. Sony got exclusive rights on rockstars newest francise to hit in 09 sometime. i think that game has a 50/50 chance on being the next gta3 to explode. Like i said i was the biggest gta fanboy there was,i just dont think GTA IV will be super huge.

                

HydroBoy6604d ago (Edited 6604d ago )

well, for someone like me that has never played a GTA game, and no sony arnt thinkin like you, id say they are thinkin of not relying on one game to sell their console like MS does with Halo or GTA .. according to sony GTA will take part in selling their consoles but they are not relying on it .. since GTA4 will be my first GTA game, i cant say if it will be mind blowin like gta3 and all that .. but i wanna see what i missed out on last gen ..in GTA4

The Closing6604d ago (Edited 6604d ago )

I myself aren't to keen on the whole wanna be video game thug theme they got going on, I've owned all the others, but they've certainly lost their charm for me, but the addition of multiplayer should add lots of replay value. I'm on the fence about this one, and wouldn't give it a second thought if more quality games were released this time of year as I've already made a few mistakes in purchases this year alone. If I'm patient with the release of mgs4 onward the rest of the year should bring titles that overshadow gta in terms of quality for my tastes at least. Decisions decisions.

LastDance6603d ago

All gta need to be a massive success and step up a level is a coherent story...interesting story. Something that has been missing in the other games. And more mission variety from. Kill this person. steal this. blow this up. follow this guy.

And a world that is a tad more realistic.

Exhaust6603d ago

You're trying to compare GTA IV to Mario Sunshine? You lost all creditably with that statement.

Mario Sunshine did nothing innovative but add a water jet pack and slightly better graphics. GTA IV isn't just a graphics upgrade. GTA IV has tons of innovation including the first use of the Euphoria physics engine.

You obviously have an agenda against GTA IV and would rather see other games that you like take the spotlight.

Jack Meahoffer6602d ago

Comparing GTA IV to Mario Sunshine just shows you're not qualified to write about GTA IV.

Gamefan69 you're obviously a Sony fanboy. Why didn't you just come out and say "LA Noire will be better cause its exclusive and uses Bluray".

Every Sony fanboy out there is trying to downplay GTA IV because of the 360 exclusive content. Well I got news for you it won't work. NOTHING CAN STOP THE GTA IV TRAIN! NOTHING. Just sit back and watch it roll over every other game released this year. GTA IV will squash MGS4 like a grape under its huge boot. Not just in sales but in every area.... Replay value, innoviation, impact on the generation and console sales.

JD_Shadow6602d ago (Edited 6602d ago )

They're downplaying that it will be MS's "ace in the hole". Do you realize how much MS is depending on GTA4? No other game this year, not even their OWN exclusives, have gotten as much hype from THEM as GTA4, all because "oh, we have 2 exclusives and we paid WAAAY too much to secure rights for those 2 things".

Can you really name any other game this year for the 360 that has gotten as much hype from MS as GTA4 has gotten? Compare it to what kind of hype Sony's lineup this year has gotten. There's a LOT of games they want to push they year, and alot of them have gotten attention and been talked about on this site.

Basically, hearing MS talk, you'd think that their console is life support and GTA4 is their last ray of hope (even if they at the very most SLIGHTLY hinted that the PS3 wouldn't get ANY DLC support for the game, at this point, all I have to do to tell they are lying or spinning is see if their lips are moving). They really HAVE to start hyping the other things in their lineup and stop being so dependent on GTA4. They need to do that or else they are going to end up MAKING their system be on life support (don't want to see that happen). They got Fable2, Ninja Gaiden 2, GOW2, and a few others that can sell systems, so why don't we HEAR about any of those?

That's what HE'S saying. They are so concerned about GTA4 and trying to say they got more exclusives than what they got that they have basically IGNORED everything else in their lineup.

Jack Meahoffer6602d ago (Edited 6602d ago )

The only ones hyping GTA IV for the 360 so much are the Sony fanboys. Have you seen one commerical yet for GTA IV from MS? No.

Ignore their other execlusives? Thats a far exaggeration.
You see interviews with executives that mention GTA IV and fanboys pick up and post on N4G but I have yet to see MS turn on the hype machine. While I think they will turn it on soon its the Sony fanboys that are making GTA IV out to be the 360 last hope becuase they're sick of being PS3rd.

NG2, Fable2, Too Human, Alan Wake and Gears of War 2. You'll hear about those games before they release. MS doesn't hype games 4 years before they come out like Sony. *cough* FFXIII. All I see is Sony fanboys making up a story that they like to hear that isn't going to happen. The only story they'll hear at the end of this generation is Sony have far less market share. They'll probably have the most in the end but FAR less than last generation. And you Sony cheerleaders fail. You hero beaten. Only to fight on next generation as real equals.

JD_Shadow6602d ago

...simple logic and simple trends, as well as simple stories that just tells you that your wrong.

For one thing, the price drop "just in time for GTA4", the special edition 360 with the GTA4 paint job, the constant telling us that they are getting 2 exclusive DLCs and trying to say they have more that is exclusive when they don't? Do you NOT see a pattern here?

Have you not checked the NPD figures for the past few months? The PS3 is ahead right now? And pointing this out makes me and those people who just mention this fanboys how, exactly? I'm sorry, but the word of "fanboy" is getting tossed around every single time you guys hear something you don't like. I never saw Sony fans call out anyone that had a valid point about how badly Sony had it in 2007 as much as you are right now. If you're a fanboy, Sony or MS, then you should be called out, but just saying that one system has an advantage over another right now makes you one? Not sure how that is. I've seen that people that have also supported the 360 say ONE good thing about the PS3 and they suddenly get written off as this terrible fanboy (and the point they make would actually be a very GOOD point). And then a few stories that are negative about the 360 comes out on this site and you're suddenly like "how dare you post this" or "who approved this BS" or "this was written by a fanboy magazine/site/blog/whatever&qu ot;, and then say that N4G caters to the Sony fanboys. Do you REALIZE how much bad press Sony had in 2007? Compare that to how much bad press the 360 is getting right now. I say you have it easy right now. You guys can damn sure dish it out, but you damn sure can't take it. Cheerleaders, my ass. It's you that can't seem to get a grip. Bad press happens sometimes, it's inevitable. DEAL WITH IT!! Sony has had to put up with a year of nothing but. I think it's very much doable for you guys to handle some bad press for a while.

Since I'm assuming you're referring to the stories about Home integration for GTA4 and Sony getting DLC support for GTA4 as those that were made up, PLEASE read those articles. They came from USPM and PSW, and why hasn't Barerra said anything contradicting that yet? I have a feeling they were telling the truth about what he said. Plus, who in the hell at Rockstar ever said that the PS3 wouldn't get DLC support for the game? Please let me know, because I never heard one top person within Rockstar even hint that. Hell, that Barerra quote was probably to also debunk whatever was actually said by MS earlier.

As for all the other stories...uh, WHAT stories? The review of GTA4 that came out? Wasn't it you 360 fanbots that championed that techspy BS the second you saw it on N4G? The review was 10 times better written and better researched than anything that that other blog said. Most of the games that are for this year have release dates now. GT5 Prologue will be released in a week or so, the PSN Store is getting its well awaited, needed, and deserved facelift, we have June for MGS4, the fall for Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 (and throw in LBP), we just got the Dualshock 3 (I'm using "we" because I lack any better word there to use right now). Your list is good, but, for one, none of those are exactly system sellers (I'm not going to rush out and buy a 360 just to play Alan Awake). Well, maybe GOW2, but that's stretching. GTA4 seems to be their only real system seller right now. The PS3 has a few other system sellers this year (GT5P and MGS4, just to name a few), and we know about them and will want to play them because they are well established franchises that alot of gamers know about.

And yes, with all the bad press the 360 is suddenly getting, and with all the things we're hearing about MS "prepping up" for GTA4, it sure seems like they ARE thinking this is a life or death situation. No one is saying it is, but MS is not playing their cards right, and IS being TOO dependent on GTA4, and they are making it sound like GTA4 is their only big game this year and that if it doesn't succeed then they are screwed. Them only. No one else has done that. No poster, no gaming site or mag, no brand loyalist did that. Microsoft is to blame for the bad news now, because they have been instrumental to let it BECOME bad news.

Again, PLEASE actually READ the news before you go commenting on it and try to say that someone else is wrong.

Jack Meahoffer6602d ago

Nice wall of text blathering about the PS3's 25k unit "win" last year. That 25k is amazing! Great job for the 70% market share winner last generation to squeeze out a huge 25k win.

So Sony isn't releasing a PS3 GTA IV bundle? You're so biased and hypocritical is sad. Keep hyping up the 360 bad news as "revenge" for your champion Sony's disasterous launch that they can blame on no one but themselves. WAAAAH! Sony got bad press last year and still got a huge 25k win world wide WAAAAH! STFU If we wanted your opinion we'd ask any Sony fanboy because you all say the same biased BS.

JD_Shadow6601d ago

And now I see that you're just ignoring facts and getting your closest allies to click disagree on every post that actually destroys YOUR fanbot assumptions.

Where you got 25k is beyond me.

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The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

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