bunfighterii

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The worst development this gen is...

Ah, the HD gaming generation. It's ushered in many great developments, and standardised some great features for console gaming. From simple, underrated pleasures like wireless controllers that can also be used for switching your console on and off, to bigger developments like making online multiplayer a standard console experience- there's a lot to like about what's happened this gen.

There's also however, one major and worrying development that has become almost the norm now with major game releases- and that's patching. In theory, the ability to patch a game and iron out a bug or two missed during development and testing should be a welcome development. This is, afterall, what patches have traditionally done in the PC gaming world. But what is happening now is plain for all to see- big games are being sold unfinished, and are being 'patched' to completion post their retail release.

Early 'day-one' purchasers more than often are the true beta testers- angrily jumping online to the games' official forums, complaining, pointing out issues that should have been picked up prior to release. It's often now that games are vastly different at launch than they are a few months later. It's so prevalent that I don't even need to give examples for anyone to know what I'm talking about- and why I think it's so detrimental to gaming.

It's getting to the point where the games we buy, with our hard earned money, simply aren't finished products anymore. Games are supposed to be fun, enjoyable experiences where you can escape from your day-to-day realities and enjoy a fantasy world for just a little while. However, instead gaming on these unfinished releases turns into little more than a tester where you wonder why features are missing, performance stutters, and end up doing the developers job for them- find the flaws the prevent the game from being fun. It impugns the integrity of developers and publishers, and mostly it just sours gamers from the hobby they love.

We deserve more as gamers. We loyally purchase games for our favourite consoles hoping for great experiences after being promised the best, only to find on launch day that game we've been looking forward to for so long doesn't work properly and is full of bugs and holes. Enough is enough!

I-Hate-usernames5511d ago

True, i agree with every word you say.

RedDragan5510d ago

Patching is good if it to include features people are asking for, but when they patch to fix bugs then it is down to extremely lazy coding and testing.

The EU needs to clamp down on this sort of thing from the gaming industry. They fine so many other industries for slacking, perhaps it need to line the gaming industry within it's sights and pull the trigger.

And hopefully the first one in their target sight would be Bethesda. The bugs needs to stop.

AntiHeroComplex5511d ago

you can take the kz3 picture off now. thanks.

bunfighterii5511d ago

Why? Killzone 3 is definitely one of those games that's being patched to completion post it's release- particularly in the multiplayer. Any fan of Killzone will tell you it's missing almost every great feature of KZ2 MP, and GG is busy continually adding things in patches.

I've played a lot of Killzone 3 and while good, it's mulitplayer is definitely lacking in comparsion to Killzone 2 in both presentation, features and in-game abilities.

Have a look at the Killzone forums.

AntiHeroComplex5511d ago (Edited 5511d ago )

every game that is released has patches. No game is perfect. If you cant live with it, make your own game to your own liking which will never have to be patched.

Killzone 3 is certainly not getting "patched to completion". There are several features which the fans have requested (like custom game rooms), which guerilla is adding because of that specific reason -> Fans asked for it. If we didnt ask, you can be sure GG would have never implemented it. They made some changes to KZ2, some of which didnt work (custom game room removal for example), so now they are implementing some fixes to counteract what isnt working well. Isnt that the whole point of a patch?

To act like KZ3 is somehow an incomplete is completely moronic. The game supports 3D, PS move, has a solid mp, fun SP (Although the story was lacking, this cannot be fixed now), etc.

As for people complaining on the forums... Show me one game where they arent. Plenty of self entitled a-holes who are never satisfied with the final product will come and demand for changes because they feel like they are entitled to a game that completely caters to them.

Here is an idea: Dont like it dont play it.

BTW its not that i dont agree with your rant... Some games are def rushed and put out there before they are ready. Im just saying i dont agree that Killzone 3 is one of these games.

EDIT: One other thing id like to say is this... Out of all the things that are wrong with video games i really dont see patching as being the most important.

How about games getting extremely dumbed down for consoles because game devs think console gamers are all casuals? When is the last time we saw an FPS that didnt have a retarded health regeneration system? Deus ex 1 had health bar for every single body part, i encourage you to take a look at what happened to the console version of the game.

Gamers arent getting shafted. CONSOLE gamers are. Devs think we are too stupid to handle a medkit or not engage in all or nothing battles with the AI. They also think they can feed us cheap ass DLC and we will just take it. Now thats worth ranting about.

Patches? You should be happy they are fixing the game at all.

Godmars2905511d ago

But then there's adding features, and then there's fixing the game. Haven't played it, but from what I hear KZ3 is hardly broken. Unlike most COD titles to come out recently.

It is odd that you have a second, more appropriate pic for this post.

SpartanPrince5510d ago

tbh the Kz3 pic should be there. I love the game but it has been patched heavily to alter the damage on some guns and change the way the ribbons are. Then theres the problems with the dlc maps that still hasnt been fixed yet and the fact that at first the teams would always be heavily unbalanced. Yes there are patches that are adding features but these are features that were in the previous game and that people asked to be in KZ3 but were left out. Why? Because it was rushed either by sony or GG to get the game out on time. With them its understandable (especially when compared to something like Black Ops) but that doesnt mean that KZ3 shouldnt be subject to scrutiny

Flashwave_UK5510d ago

true im one of the best in kz2 now im the worst of the best in kz3 <(lol)

shadow27975510d ago

There's nothing wrong with the dlc maps. And there never has been. People just don't understand that one is Guerrilla Warfare only, and one is Warzone only.

Now maybe some people wish that the DLC "playlist" included the regular maps, or that there were more options to select playlists, but there isn't a "problem".

And yes, there have been some minor fixes, the most major ones being available day 1.

KZ3 is different structurally from KZ2. Yes, that means some things were sacrificed. But a lot of great things have been added in it's place. I enjoy KZ3 immensely more than KZ2, and I loved KZ2.

Personally, I wish KZ3 had a system similar to Uncharted 2 or Halo where it's matchmaking, but you can select the playlist, including ones with weird weapons or changed rules. But I digress.

bunfighterii5510d ago

AntiHeroComplex;

I agree that dumbed down games that continually hold your hand are also a bad development- but to me this is simply worse. What we get now are basically incomplete games and if you buy them day one you become a beta tester. It's my opinion.

I didn't name Killzone 3 in my blog or any game for that matter, as I contend I don't need to because any console gamer would know what I'm talking about. However, I did use the Killzone 3 graphic to illustrate my point.

To me, Killzone 3 is the latest in a long line of games to rely on post-release patches to complete the experience. We're up to patch 1.07 for KZ3, with more planned. This isn't me making up things, it's fact. These patches haven't been to simply iron out a few bugs- but to implement game features into multiplayer that were missing when it was released.

That's clearly an example of a game that was released incomplete. They're relying on post-release patches to implement features they had planned to put into the game all along.

Does it make Killzone 3 a bad game? Hardly. You only need check my PS3 profile and stats on Killzone.com to see I play it often and am enjoying it. But it does irk me that games simply aren't finished when they hit the shelves, and need significant fixes post release? Absolutely.

We should get a finished product on release, end of story. Read the blog again. This isn't about Killzone hate. It's about an industry wide practice affecting nearly all major titles on all platforms.

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RedDragan5510d ago

Yeah the KZ3 pic should probably go... to be replaced with the Bethesda logo.

lex-10205511d ago

You seem to be receiving a lot of flack for this post. I agree with you. The ability to patch things post release is a great thing when done right. However the developers seem to be just releasing a game and patching it later. They need to stop trying to release unfinished games.

coryok5511d ago

lol you put up a picture of killzone, which i dont think its very buggy at all. rather they are listening to player feedback and changing it so people like it more. GG experiments with things in their games instead of being a cod clone, the players asked them to take some of it out (like running into bodies) and they did, thats good development, not bad.

you should have a picture of fallout: NV on there, now thats a game that had some problems. raining cows and the like

blackburn55511d ago

The KZ3 MP argument is BS. MW2 was a joke and had to be patched every second but you people still brought it and made the developers rich off it. Any every other war shooter too. You claim that people complain and say that they will never buy it again but each year these games skyrocket up the charts, get GOTYs and sell million. Now suddenly KZ3 is the 'most broken game ever' and is being used as an example of what not to do? BS. And as for the forums and the whiners, if my memory is correct everyone complained just as much about KZ2 and now that GG changed things about it suddenly you prefer the KZ2 way? Then why the hell did you guys go on and on about it? Why didn't you thank GG for KZ2 instead of bitching and moaning about it?

This just like MS:PR. You complain, kick it through the mud, barely buy it and when Evolution tries something different it's ' Why did you change it, we liked the way it was'. If you Fing like it the way it is then stop the Fing complaining so they won't change it.

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